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20 Aug 2018 13:30:53
Much debate on what Emery needs to do, who he should play etc, but perhaps are we missing the single biggest potential difference he needs to concentrate on, and that's getting Ozil back to his best? With our current attack, getting Ozil back to playing something like what he achieved during his first season, and we will be scoring for fun, whilst alleviating some of the other worries such as our CB pairing or even Xhaka playing?


1.) 20 Aug 2018 20:10:14
Ozil needs to buy in to the way ww play, i'm not going to hold my breath but IF he does, happy days all round.

{Ed002's Note - Willie Wonker?}

2.) 20 Aug 2018 21:00:57
The way "we" play. Thank you Ed, damn my sausage fingers.

{Ed002's Note - I prefer Willie Wonker Steve. And I still have a slight fear it will turn out that way.}

3.) 21 Aug 2018 17:26:40
The problem is that we have very few players that would be capable of getting into the squads of the top four teams:
None of our keepers
None of our defenders: I would have said Bellerin, but he has been poor for a long while.
Midfield: Torreira, Guendouzi, perhaps Ramsey although I'm not convinced
Attack: Aubameyang and perhaps Lacazette.
Not a single player of ours would get anywhere near a Premier League best eleven. This shows the magnitude of the job Emery has.

4.) 21 Aug 2018 18:59:19
RG, i think the truth is wenger left a squad of players where probably only 4 or 5 are actually top four potential everyday performers, the rest are either not good enough or just too inconsistent.

5.) 21 Aug 2018 21:59:42
I think it's a case of working out what can be salvaged from what Dick inherited and then adding to that over the next two windows to form an 11 to 15 man reliable squad for next season bolstered by the best of the rest Steve mate.
It won't happen over night:-)

6.) 22 Aug 2018 09:22:21
It shouldn't be a case of our individuals getting into a pl eleven. We need to work as a team first as that is the most important thing. That may mean some bigger names not playing week in week out. Look at Leicester, Wales and Iceland in the euros. Its a team attitude that wins titles.

7.) 22 Aug 2018 13:45:57
Ahh Willy Wonker Ed002. A great right of childhood passage was to read Charlie and the Chocolate Factory, a brilliant book (and decent film, but only the original staring Gene Wilder not the utter trash made by Tim Burton) . With all the smut and adult like content constantly forced on children these days, what could be better than a harmless family story about a strange hermit like man who either chooses to lock himself in a factory with only a workforce of child like people for company, or who when he does finally emerge into the world only looks to befriend children. Now that's more like it, good harmless family fun.!

8.) 22 Aug 2018 20:30:18
EG, i would be very wary of anyone with a name like Willie Wonker, especially around children.

9.) 25 Aug 2018 00:58:50
Late to the post on this. But I have a strong feeling Dick has a half idea who he wants to keep and who to let go. I think the ones the jury’s out on he wanted to give enough rope to hang themselves with so he can eventually bin them with no resistance.
Cech who has my sympathy, is having to re-adjust and it could prove difficult due to his age.
And the likes of Xhaka et all, were played last season even though they were dump but still have that flicker of hope that, it was the coaching, that there was room for improvement.
Hopefully Dick will be given the freedom and he has the fortitude to bin the ones he believes offer no long term benefit.
Then I think we will see the likes of Torreria and Leno.

10.) 29 Aug 2018 13:37:21
I think the thing to remember about Cech is he is still a very good keeper, and has already made some important saves for us. Also, his experience behind the dodgy defense should not be underestimated. Currently, i think this more than makes up for the lack of distribution skills and is probably why he is still being played over Leno.



10 Aug 2016 15:02:50
Ok, so i am no ITK, but i caught up with an old friend recently who knows someone who knows someone who supposedly works at Arsenal and regularly sits in on meetings with Ivan Gazidis. So the story is that Ivan and the board only have 1 actual target (forward, no mention of CB) and are expecting two things to happen that they believe will result in the target becoming available. The first is for Chelsea to re-sign Lukaku, who then will allow Costa to leave. He will go to Athletico Madrid who in turn will allow Griezman to leave, who is the true target. Personally I don't believe this is true, as even if he did become available we would only bid £12.50 and a kitkat versus Chelsea and Barcelona and Bayern all bidding £80 million, but that's what i heard anyway, and as the saying goes you pays your money and you takes your choice!


1.) 10 Aug 2016 16:07:32
Stop being ridiculous.

2.) 10 Aug 2016 16:58:41
A lot of people are making the Costa to Atleti, Griezmann to us link.

Only signed a new deal this year, release is probably into the Pogba regions and I can't see them selling him for anything less than it.

I can't even see them signing Costa either, they already have Griezmann, Torres and Gameiro.

Even if they were open to letting him go, I can't see us being the only club to move for him, as you say.

That being said, I personally expect this exact rumour to pop up in the media shortly, it's almost panic season!

3.) 10 Aug 2016 17:51:04
I know someone, who knew a man who lived next to a boy who watched Arsenal last season . Apparently we have money in the bank


4.) 10 Aug 2016 17:57:12
Ed i know its not going to happen but any interest from us for lewandowski?

{Ed001's Note - do you think Arsenal would be willing to break the transfer fee record? If not, why even ask?}

5.) 10 Aug 2016 18:09:17
I didn't know it will be that much, i thought it would be around 60 million.

{Ed001's Note - why would they let the best centre forward in the world go for less than Higuain when Bayern have no need or desire to sell?}

6.) 10 Aug 2016 18:28:03
Apex seriously come on now 😂.

7.) 10 Aug 2016 18:53:40
I've come to the conclusion our friend Apex is actually Arsene in disguise.

As soon as one of the Ed's confirms a player would be interested in Arsenal, in he'll swoop with the pound!

8.) 10 Aug 2016 19:56:32
I wish I lived in Apex's world.

9.) 10 Aug 2016 20:11:23
Who knows Wenger maybe mad enough to do it.

10.) 10 Aug 2016 23:48:21
Some info regarding griezmann on the european page if anyones interested.

11.) 11 Aug 2016 09:48:29
looks like the offer for mahrez if lequipe are to be taken seriously is 41 mill and 9 mill in bonus, they quote in euros, so not sure if true as most transfers within this country would be in pounds.

guess that would be a lot of money to make for leicester and a massive profit, but i guess with every team flush with cash no need to sell.

12.) 11 Aug 2016 11:44:47
Hello ed, sky sports germany are reporting that a deal between arsenal and valencia is close regarding mustafi, any truth in this at all?

13.) 11 Aug 2016 11:54:28
Just to add to my post, the agent also said that a deal is imminent which is why I'm asking.

{Ed001's Note - not that I am aware of. Though he is available, I am not aware of any change in the situation. Clearly the agent is trying to remind people he is for sale....}




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25 Apr 2019 15:12:11
Although i agree that we need to give Emery a transfer window or two so he can build his own team, i have to confess i am not overly optimistic that we will have a positive transfer window in the summer. I see each of our top 6 competitors, and in fact most of Europes top teams, entering the transfer market with one single objective; how to strengthen their squad. However with us, I fear it will be a different single objective; how to lower our wage bill. I fear the players who depart will be based on their earnings rather than what they contribute to the team, and each will be replaced by a cheaper alternative. If we are savvy, then it may go well, and teams like Ajax are again a reminder that you don't have to be Real Madrid Galcticos to succeed. However, don't be surprised if rather than just the unliked/ unused players go, such as a Mustafi and Jenkinson, but also some of our more useful, popular, but ultimately expensive players, such as a Lacca or Aubey, and of course Ozil, if any taker is found. What do others think?


1.) 25 Apr 2019 17:09:36
We get rid of players like Lacca and pea iam done with arsenal football club.



23 Apr 2019 15:40:32
Just to change the subject on here slightly, it was nice to see Ed002's excellent Arsenal transfer list on the rumours page. For me, the disappointment is yet again that we seem to be mostly looking outwards from the UK in our search for players, with perhaps only one or two options being existing UK or premiership based players. Yes that has worked before, with Torriera and Guendozi looking good purchases, but to balance we have Mustufi and Xhaka, who both came in as expensive purchases, and looked good in another league, but can't cut the mustard in the premiership. So is there really no premiership or British based players who would be worth a punt, who could improve our squad, even at the so called inflated price that comes with them? For CB, how about Coady from Wolves, or Lacelles from Newcastle, or even Ben Godfrey from Norwich? Are they all not better options than another potential Mustafi? What about replacements for Ramsey, apart from the two Bournemouth players already linked? How about Ward-Prowse from Southampton? Should we manage to ship out Xhaka, who could replace him, perhaps Declan Rice, or even Doucoure from Watford (OK so not British but Premiership) For wingers, how about Ryan Sessegnon (or left wing back) . He looked good on the weekend and ended up playing RW, an area we are also looking for according to Ed002. In the past British players have always been deemed expensive and just not good (or dedicated) enough versus their foreign competition, but this seems to be changing now, with perhaps Raheem Sterling being an example of the modern english player, who perhaps 5 years ago would have wasted his ability and career, but who now seems to be one of the first names on both Peps and Gareth Southgates team sheet. English football appears to be going through a long waited purple patch, and it would be a shame if we turned our back on it just to try and buy cheap elsewhere? What do others think?


{Ed002's Note - Part of the problem with going for HG players is the price is always much higher. Sessegnon needs work - he has had a torrid season.}

1.) 23 Apr 2019 16:21:55
Agree Epping but Ed has a good point. If Grealish is anywhere near £40m then what does that say for the likes of Maddison, Brooks etc? We could pay inflated prices for HG players but surely our own academy should help somewhat in that respect? If it isn't, then why are we not producing good enough players? I think there is a lot more emphasis on younger players coming through now and it is certainly something we will see more frequently in upcoming seasons. I'm really hoping Nelson, Smith-Rowe, Saka and Nketiah can hit the ground running at premier league level in seasons to come, and that's just a name a few who have excelled under Freddie. I do agree with premier league players though, there are plenty in teams mid-table who we could/ should go for.

2.) 23 Apr 2019 21:03:07
I think teams are looking for their home grown players to be just that, its cheaper than buying in HG talent. Then the rest is up to the people in the network to pick out the rest. A lot more teams want to produce HG players for many reasons and one is the price of buying in from elsewhere. The other is, it shows the club is working well from top to bottom. Why have a youth set up, if you can't benifit from it. We arsenal football club need players through the ranks more.

3.) 24 Apr 2019 09:44:29
Happy for us to add young players with talent and build towards a plan - happy for Europa football for 3 years if we have a clear plan and strategy to get us properly competing in 3 years. I just don’t see a plan at present - from the board, from the manager, our set up and how we structure both backroom staff and signings

Long term glory over short term trust and error.

4.) 24 Apr 2019 10:48:10
Personally I think the trick is to buy ( just examples ) Maddison from Norwich and Mcguire from Hull not either from Leicester when they've already earned a reputation that triples or quadruples their initial fee.
It's not all about buying young but spotting raw or missed talent from the lower divisions in England Ireland Scotland and Wales.
With good scouting and most imporyantly excellent coaches who are brought into the equation before signing players where they have say on where they can or can't improve raw bargain buy players rather than Just be handed them and told do something with him!
If coaches were allowed to have a say and an input as to who they felt they could really improve and who they would struggle to improve before you bought them I think the chances of that player making the grade would increase considerably.
Give a plummer a spanner and he'd know what to do with it but chuck him a fish and he'd probably struggle to deliver a meal worth eating:-)
To me it makes sense to include the people who are expected to develop the raw materials when deciding which ones to buy.
Obviously this isn't an issue when spending 100 million on an established player.



13 Feb 2019 14:34:04
Started thinking the other day about how we miss having fullbacks the quality of Dixon and Winterburn in our side. Their type would surely help our current defence. That got me thinking more though, and the way we play these days, and in fact the way football has gone, with the use of wingbacks, would they, as "traditional" style fullbacks putting defence first, even play for us now, and even if they did, with the massively increased work load shoved onto the "wingback", would their careers have lasted anything like as long as it did, or would they have been burnt out much sooner? I think all our expectations of the full back has changed. A mate of mine used to hate Sagna, purely because "he could never beat the full back" on attack! I used to have to remind him that Sagna was our right back and screaming past the oppo full back wasn't really his primary role, and if that's want he wants from a full back we might as well play Walcott in that position (which actually got me thinking maybe Walcott could have played as wing back!, like Ashley Young does for Man Utd? ) . However, i actually think that Dixon and Winterburn were also extremely effective in attack, perhaps even more so than the likes of the modern wing back like Bellerin. So they might not of scored as many goals as the modern wingbacks (still remember the Winterburn thunderbolt versus Chelsea though) but for me the difference is they were much better at supporting an existing winger, rather than being the winger themselves. In a less is more type role, and just as the likes of Frank Lampard was so successful in timing his run into the box, so were Dixon and Winterburn at choosing the right time to go forward and overlap the winger and create chances. Maybe we again need some players who put their primary defensive role first, with any other skills elsewhere on the pitch just an added bonus?


1.) 13 Feb 2019 15:17:20
I agree Epping fullbacks are primarily defenders who help our with attack not the other way round.
Personally my Ideal would be 5 at the back but fullbacks who supplement the attack and the central CB being very comfortable on the ball with decent pace enabling him to play both sweeper when opponents have the ball and DM when we attack freeing up our central midfielders to join the attack in a
5 2 1 2 formation.
You would need to bring in or develope the right personel but it's very effective system if done right.
Maybe Chambers could be our DM/ Sweeper because although I haven't really seen much of him at Fulham I'm reading good stuff about him, also I've always thought David Luis would be an ideal Sweeper/ DM mix in that system too.

2.) 14 Feb 2019 04:05:32
Sagna was incredibly underrated. Interesting stat, we played aerial goal kicks to Sagna more than any other player before Giroud arrived.

Worth mentioning here that Wenger often played with a rotating defence rather than an interlocking one. What I mean by this is that he often favoured one attacking FB and a defensive one. For example when Cole/ Clichy would move up the pitch, the left CB would move across to cover, the right CB would follow, and Sagna would stay back and tuck inside. He reversed this when Bellerin broke through and Monreal became our defensive fullback.

For a while we played a more interlocking style with both fullbacks Monreal and Bellerin playing more attacking, and then Coquelin would drop back almost to CB positions, allowing the CBs to cover the space vacated by Bellerin/ Monreal's attacks. We then became incredibly poor at defending when we kept attacking like usual and played Xhaka in Coquelin's position leading to constantly seeing Koscielny exposed alone at the back.

The reason Bellerin's been much more defensive the past couple seasons is because we've been playing Kolasinac who plays almost as a winger and Xhaka isn't able to drop back like a DM. Unfortunately defending isn't the biggest part of Bellerin's game, probably still has nightmares of getting skinned by Douglas Costa, but he's improving.



24 Jan 2019 18:34:02
I see we remained in the top 10 of the Deloitte Football Money League, coming in at 9th place based on our 2017 revenue. Interestingly, we were the only team in the top 10 to see revenue drop from 2016 to 2017, which has caused us to slip from 6th place in 2016. This shows how missing out on CL football starts to bite, and if we want to keep our place in the top 10, and if our owner wants to see the value of his investment increase, we need to up our ambition and get back into the CL sharpish. I know there is much debate about our owner and his spending, but for me, a good example of where we currently are is Juventus, who despite having less revenue than us (they came in 11th place) in my opinion, act like, and are, a much bigger club, having signed the likes of Ronaldo (cant be on peanuts) and now, probably Ramsey, and who have a much better first XI than us. This despite their lower revenue, meaning their overall player salary bill has to be lower than ours to comply with FFP? Perhaps we can't compete will some of the other clubs in the top 10, but for our owner to think we can maintain our place in European football by spending very little is surely at best naive, or worst suicidal?


{Ed002's Note - That is not how the FFP works for wages.}

1.) 24 Jan 2019 19:47:17
Not being funny but are Juve the best example of how to do things?
Weren't they demoted once?
I'm not saying their current board are the same sort of people as the ones who got the club demoted but if their income is less than ours yet they can spent much more on wages and fees then, and it's only a question but are they doing everything by the book or have they possibly found a loophole or an alternative way around things?

{Ed002's Note - Of course not.}

2.) 24 Jan 2019 20:12:51
If something appears to good to be true then? It might possibly not be quite what it seems to be from the outside.
Maybe it is, Maybe it isn't all it appears to be but when it comes to following rules not all Clubs see themselves as equals.

3.) 24 Jan 2019 20:26:50
Juve signing Ronaldo is very short term thinking and a lot of their squad are older. If they achieve their goals in the next two years, it was a good decision but even if they do or dont, it will cost them dearly in other ways for the future. They have signed to win the CL and that's all. They were already winning the scilleto (excuse my spelling) every year and domestic cups.

{Ed002's Note - He may well be gone in Januray 2020.}

4.) 24 Jan 2019 20:53:08
Im guessing, that may have something to do with China, David Beckham or jail Ed02? Or maybe coming to Arsenal. Lol.

5.) 25 Jan 2019 11:36:37
Ignore the whole demotion over fraud/ game fixing thing, they are in Italy, where your almost fined for not getting involved in extra circular activities! However, my point stands, in that Juventus may only be number 11 on the list, but they act like they are a top 5 team. OK so they won't win the CL this year, but they should get through to the later stages, which currently puts them far ahead of the "bigger" team that came number 9 on the list. We on the other hand, seem to be preparing for life as a top 20 team, rather than having any ambition to get back to number 6 on the list or even better, which will happen if your successful. Hopefully with Kronke's NFL team getting through to the final of the Superbowl it will ignite some sort of realization in him that its much better for the the self esteem and wallet in owning successful sports teams rather than also rans.

6.) 25 Jan 2019 13:09:54
We will drop out of the top 10 soon with our ridiculous policy. Most of the teams in the top 10 have had serious investment.

Barca, real and bayern will always get bigger because they are fan-run clubs whose main objective is to win trophies which in turn attracts commercial partners which in turn drives commercial revenue.

One interesting fact, do you know Barcelona were not even in the top 10 in the year 2004?. Newcastle had more revenue than barca. So the obvious question is how did they jump up that high?

It is obvious trophies and loads of them. How do you win trophies then? Having good management and a good team. We don't have a good team and we need to sign good players and that means we need ownership investment. Will kroenke do that? I don't think so hence i expect us to fall farther behind.



21 Jan 2019 14:41:10
Not sure if already covered but i thought our formation really worked well at the weekend. Not always a big fan of the 4-4-2 "diamond" formation but i thought it best matched the players we have. It allows us to play 3 in central midfield with Torreira and Guendouzi adding the energy, and which i thought really helped protect the back 4, and helped snuff out Chelsea's midfield. Ramsey worked well in the hole, adding more energy and some defensive cover when required, but ultimately in the team to support the front 2. Also, going forward, you could easily see Ozil or Miti playing in that position instead of Ramsey, as having the extra protection of 3 midfielders may help Ozil, allowing him to concentrate more on supporting our attack, without the pressure to fully engage in our defense. Finally, this formation allows us to play both Lacca and Aubey, with both being able to play more central, where they do the most damage (oh and it also prevents us having to play Iwobi, who was again extremely poor when he came on) . A few issues with the formation, we were still very narrow, especially in defense, and teams with wingers will cause problems, but overall, i thought it was a case of a manager playing a style that suited the resources at hand, rather than trying to "shoe-horn" a favoured system onto players that don't fit. Finally, was really pleased with the great "home" reception for Giroud, (and he responded very well to the applause at the end of the game, doing a full lap of the ground! ) .


1.) 21 Jan 2019 15:08:09
I think, Dick changes team and formation to suit. I only think he will use three or four at back when he thinks it suits, or he thinks the players he has available suits. I thought we played far too narrow at the back but on saturday against a team with no focal point up front it worked a treat. The only scary thing for me on saturday was allowing their tricky players into the box before trying to tackle when a tackle outside the box was on, especially by the unfortunate Bellerin but again it may have been a tactic.

2.) 21 Jan 2019 18:23:13
Dick does seem more flexible and open to taking into consideration who we are playing before deciding his own plan of action, which I welcome.
I've always believed If your a dominant team like Barcelona and The invincibles were or City and Liverpool now then you should stick to what your brilliant at and let your opponents worry about tactics but if your playing a team at your own. level or higher then good tactics or best of all tactics that catch your opponents out can and do make all the difference to your chances of success.
It's no good us going to City in a couple of weeks time and playing the same way we line up with Cardiff at home a few days earlier.

3.) 21 Jan 2019 18:35:29
Never been a massive fan of the 3 at the back, which in my book means your playing 5 defenders, not something i want to pay and watch! I would like to see the stats on goals conceded with 3 CB's versus the flat back 4. I remember when Wenger first switched to 3 it worked well, but i would wager its made no real difference since. Therefore give me a choice between adding say Mustafi and having to remove either Guendouzi or Ramsey to compensate, or sticking to a back 4, I would take the later all day long. However, i do understand that we will change our tactics depending on the opponents, and i probably wouldn't expect us to play that way against say, Palace, as you would get exposed down the flanks. However, for me, you have to always play your strongest team with your best players in their preferred position. If that means playing 2 up front, with both playing central, and no-one having to play as a Left Forward instead to enable us to play the "correct" 3-4-3 formation, then so be it.

4.) 21 Jan 2019 20:37:38
The thing with all formations, they have their strengths and weaknesses, being able to change and adapt is massive. Dick is a coach who likes to study and coach, i think he is adaptable to different situations and expects his team to be as well. Some of our players look upto it, some don't and that's where we will see the changes in the coming windows.




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12 Sep 2019 14:55:51
I am also not a fan of the 3 at the back, because we still play two wingbacks not wide midfielders as part of the 4, so its a con, its not 3-4-3 at all, its 5-2-3. What you end up with is 3 central defenders still playing narrow and effectively marking just one center-forward, with a midfield two in front getting completely dominated and overun, which is exactly what our problem is. Also play 3-4-3 and you might as well send Cabellos back to RM, as he won't start in that formation? Much prefer the extra midfielder in a 4-3-3 with Ceballos mixed in with Torr and Willock/ Guen.




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02 Aug 2019 12:13:04
I think we all probably understand that we are blowing the next 2/ 3 years transfer fees this summer. However, this makes much more sense to me than our previous business model, as it let's us buy better players rather than spreading it out and having to buy cheap each year, just to end up at the same budget 2/ 3 years down the line. In recent seasons, we can't say for certain who was responsible for our uderperformance, the manager, or a poor squad, and if we again tried to buy cheap, we would probably be in the exact same position come the end of the season. However, now, if we fail to achieve this coming season, then we (and more importantly the owners) will know its 100% attributable to the manager, and can (more cheaply) replace him. Having an acceptance that the manager underachieved tends to ensure the value of your real assets, the players, remains as they are blameless! Therefore we would still own better and more valuable assets (Pepe etc) , who the new manager can choose to sell to re-build, or just get better results. In all i hope its a win win.




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01 Aug 2019 18:10:26
That's funny Arsenalex. I would be happy for Iwobi to make room for a pigeon, let alone Zaha.




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09 Jul 2019 09:43:34
Be careful what you wish for 5kywalker, with our current budget, we might be in for Chris Smalling once again. Chris Smalling, but years later and older/ slower. How you feel about that one :)




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19 Jun 2019 12:46:22
Surely we should be in contact with Kimpembe, not his dad? How are we ever going to improve if we start signing 60 year olds :)





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05 Oct 2019 11:32:40
The main issue I have with Emery is that I see very little difference between our current style versus the final Wenger years, despite arguably having spent decent money on some good players. I appreciate a manager shouldn’t pick players based on the fans but surely Emery is aware of the fans dislike of Xhaka, based on the fact of the cheers when he is substituted at the very least? More importantly surely he sees what a liability he is as a defensive player and how much he slows our play down going forward? It’s these sort of decisions that got me questioning Wenger and I am now questioning Emery. How can someone with supposedly high levels of knowledge and management skill not see what is so obvious to everybody else?




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01 Sep 2019 19:51:28
Can’t be too annoyed as there were plenty of positives, but it’s the same players holding us back, and it’s no shock that Xhaka and Papa were at the heart of gifting Spurs 2goals with Papa doing his best to gift them a 3rd. Also Not sure why you pick Torreira and play him as the advanced midfielder, leaving Xhaka to protect the back 4. Surely if you play those two it should be the other way round? Time and again Ericsson was allowed to wander into space in front of the back 4, receive the ball, control it, lift his head and still no Arsenal midfielder in sight! On the positive Pepe is going to be a great asset, and looking forward to seeing him and Bellerin down the right wing.




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07 Aug 2019 14:19:07
Mind you with our limited transfer budget, will Everton take the £30 million in installments :)




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07 Aug 2019 13:21:56
He has had plenty of chances and not taken them. He is now blocking the development of Nelson. Time to let him go.




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07 Aug 2019 13:28:28
I watched the Leipzig Aston Villa game at the weekend, and remember thinking what a beast the Leipzig defender was, and that's exactly the sort of player we need. At that time i didn't realise who that defender was, and that we actually are after him!