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26 Jul 2020 19:46:17
Please tell me we aren't trying to sign another winger. I'm tired of us signing players we don't need when we need a few towering brutes with leadership skills and winning in their blood.

Do we really need Joelson Fernandes?

Please please can we get some leaders to improve our spine.


{Ed002's Note - It is a great deal of money for a kiddie - and money Arsenal don’t have.}

1.) 27 Jul 2020 08:37:38
If it was to happen, we don't know who we might be letting go of. The only way to really judge our summer window is at the end of it rather than before its even began.

2.) 27 Jul 2020 09:19:38
John, he just likes to have moan.

3.) 27 Jul 2020 10:01:12
I know Mark mate, just feel for SY right now because he's inherited my negative bones I carried for sooooo long, it's an easy trap to fall into but a bugger to get out of :- (.



05 Jul 2020 09:39:49
Saw the Express and Graham Hunter talking about us trying to sign Partey (likely) plus Luka Jovic and Dayot Upamecano.

Talk about addressing our weaknesses.

I'd be happy if we didn't sign Jovic but rather spent the money in CM as the above sorts the defence out. I'd still be happy if Laca moves on to facilitate one of the above transfers.


1.) 05 Jul 2020 19:27:01
Lacca is class we need to keep both pea and lacca.

2.) 08 Jul 2020 02:06:17
ED, as always a lot can change. So this is just a light question, would Arteta look to sign both Ceballos and Partrey or is he interested in adding just one midfielder as it stands?

{Ed002's Note - The transfers are unrelated as they play in different positions. A DM is wanted to replace players who are available and Arsenal had a firm taget they lost out on but Partey is an expensive option for a club in a financial mess. Real Madrid want cash for Ceballos and it is unclear if the player would change his mind and stay on - much will depend on another club.}

3.) 08 Jul 2020 12:27:01
I think Ceballos will choose the highest level option on offer to him this summer. The lad seems very football ambitious rather than money or easy opinion driven, shame because we really need players with that ambitious mentality at Arsenal.

{Ed002's Note - Dani Ceballos (CM) agent is investigating other options as the player is edging away from signing for Arsenal. It is about direction, opportunity and the future. The idea is he gets another loan, gets to the Euros, gets to talk options with Real Madrid and the decides on a practical way forward - perhaps with a more progressive side. Loan to Milan, Real Betis or Valencia might give a short-term solution.}

4.) 08 Jul 2020 19:44:54
Sounds like he's looking for the best possible shop window in which to prove himself to top clubs in Ed002 mate, can't blame the lad for that. Just a shame we're not currently best placed to offer him that but the good news might be that his moving on free's up a place for someone else who does fancy a future with Arsenal.



01 Jul 2020 13:48:17
Great news about Saka extending his deal.

"It's Arsenal, you know. Come on, it's Arsenal! " He said. "The stadium is great, the fans are great, the club is great. Everything about this club is great. "

How many shirts will we see with his name on next year. COYG.


1.) 01 Jul 2020 15:55:12
None in the ground itself mate, well not as things stand anyway!
It really is brilliant news though, we needed that news.



31 May 2020 22:51:35
Did we really pay 8m for Luiz and put him on 5m wages for a 12m deal? For a club little money we really are stupid with our money ( Pepe for one) . At least he's gone if that's the case.




03 Feb 2020 16:00:03
Hi Ed, it sounds like Arsenal turned down the chance to sell Mesut Ozil despite Mikel backing the move.?

Is that true?

Why didn't it happen and why did they bid at the last minute.



{Ed002's Note - I don't know whether or not MA supported the move but Al Sadd's interest was very late in the day and that likely proved to be the issue. The proposed loan to another side was tentatively agrred before the window opened but also failed for onr reason or another. Arsenal really want him sold and not loaned. They will look to move him on in the summer.}

1.) 03 Feb 2020 20:39:18
Thanks Ed - frustrating an 11th hour offer comes in for a player we need to shift and we can’t close it out. If he’s not in the long term plans, don’t get why we didn’t cash in or why They waited so late to bid for MO10. Sounds like Lemar was an option for us. never mind at least we signed an injured left back and an unproven CD 😂😂

Quality window 😫.

2.) 04 Feb 2020 19:46:13
Or according to other outlets Artetta put a block to the move.
It's a shame we didn't break the bank in January and sign 3 or 4 household names at extortionate pilrices that could have helped us achieve 8th place this season:-) .
I suppose we will just have to settle for 10th place and use this season for Arteta to find out who he can and can't take forward into next season and beyond.




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10 Aug 2020 19:32:07
So, what does being an Arsenal fan mean to you, what do you expect from your club and what role do you believe the club plays in today's community?


1.) 10 Aug 2020 20:02:38
Being an Arsenal fan to me means? Caring about something that doesn't care about me.
What do I expect from the club?
To be all it can possibly be on and off the pitch.
What role does the club play in today's community?
The same role it has always played, a distraction from real life, be it happy or sad distraction thinking abut Arsenal stops us overthinking the truly important things our life's too much.

2.) 11 Aug 2020 08:03:21
Being an Arsenal fan to me is a pride and
passion of the game I love and the way we use to play the game was exciting to watch when I was a kid my eyes use to light up and I would jump around the house when we won I still do at 35 lol I use to play footy with my mates pretending I was Bergkamp its just the buzz you get from winning. I expect the club to compete on all things we are in to the best of their ability and the players to show heart and passion every game win or lose. And act in a decent way that is what I expect. Sorry for the long reply.

3.) 11 Aug 2020 10:46:12
what does being an Arsenal fan mean to you
✅ win / lose I am always a gooner.
✅No one is bigger than the club and I want to have distractions from day to day life
✅Belonging to a special group of supporters / fans who are proud of how we play the beautiful game

what do you expect from your club
✅ commitment to be the best we can, have a vision of what we want to achieve and be honest in communications.
✅Compete for league and ensure club still around for future generations

what role do you believe the club plays in today's community?
✅ respect the community it’s a part of, pays fair wage and good working conditions. Invest time or money back into less privileged areas.



08 Aug 2020 11:16:18
Very very interesting times - I'm actually excited about our club.

I'm disappointed in how we are handling the 55 redundancies and blaming C.V. rather than just saying we are restructuring the club for the future. Does anyone believe that 2m savings over 12 months will really impact our transfer kitty. 🥱

Anyway - I am interested in the new strategy of contracts for older players and us addressing the issue of the lack of experience our squad had at one stage as well as the shocking spine we had.

I like the signing of Willian - yes he's not 26 but he's got great pedigree and a winning mentality. Don't think 100k per week is crazy, epl experience, winner and good injury record. Would rather have him than Pepe on right wing.

If you look at the last two seasons - these exits wouldn't truly be missed (if they happen and I don't want AMN to go but that's life ) . The three main ones for fairly significant sums are: Matteo Guendouzi, Ainsley Maitland-Niles, and Lucas Torreira. Plus : Henrikh Mkhitaryan, Elneny, Mustafi, Sokratis and Holding (would like him to stay but too many CDs) . That's a lot of wages freed up and you would hope to get between 90 to 120m in funds from that exodus. That's before you look at Laca and Kola and Ozil.

In coming (rumours) - Thomas Partey, Gabriel Magalhaes and Dani Ceballos plus May be Coutinho. Noting that Saliba is effectively a new signing.

I'm not a big Luiz fan but he does bring a winning mentality and experience. So will Willian. Keeping PEA means we have some old heads in the dressing room and I
That gives youngsters role models and a mentor.

What do we moan about - attacking fast enough, organisation, no protection of back 4, poor CDs, mentality, no plan B or A sometimes, only PEA scoring, lack of creativity and not being able to hold a 2 nil lead.

I like how we are addressing our deficiencies in the squad ( based on rumours ) . the one I want to see addressed is still vocal leadership but may be Emi can help there. Tierney will help there also.

So - our spine

Saliba and Magalhaes
Partey and Granit

That's a decent spine and best we've had in years. That probably means we can
accommodate Coutinho.

Add the pace of Saka and Willian on the wings gives us directness at last and width rather than slowness and cutting in all the time.

Add Tierney and Cedric means we have a decent back 4 with a solid midfield two in front of them.

Now our other players like Mavropanos, Nelson, Pepe, Laca, Luiz, Mari, Willock, Martinelli, Eddie, Rowe, Bellerin, Ceballos etc all get game time and compete in a very strong squad

-- Partey/ Doucouré-Granit
----Ceballos / Coutinho
Willian ---- PEA ----Saka

Plenty of options to play 4 2 1 3, 4 4 2, 3 5 2 etc etc

I don't want to stop youth coming through but within reason. No reason Eddie can't play in games or Martinelli or Mavropanos or Nelson or Willock. Be it as first choice or due to opponent or set up or injury or cup game. This gives us a balanced squad and I like the rumours I hear.

It would be great to see over 100m cone in without really impacting the starting 11 and addressing the spine with good additions.



1.) 08 Aug 2020 12:04:14
Good post

Nice read.



06 Aug 2020 17:12:34
Footage of legendary former Arsenal boss Arsene Wenger has resurfaced when he remarked he would put his staff before any new signings.

The Gunners announced on Wednesday night they would be making 55 staff redundant due to the C.V. C.V. - a decision which has angered many inside the football fraternity.

Speaking after Arsenal's 0-0 draw at Leicester in August 2016, Wenger said:

"What matters to me is when you have a club with 600 employees you have the money to pay them at the end of the month. "

In Wenger I still trust and Still admire.


1.) 06 Aug 2020 17:43:54
And to think of the meager wage he himself took during all his years at the club to! What an outstanding example.

2.) 06 Aug 2020 18:25:41
Good man gunner, spot on!

3.) 06 Aug 2020 18:43:45
Hi Shambles mate, a Robin Hood figure who lived in the castle next door to the evil Sheriff and dined at the the sheriffs feast ladend table surrounded by great riches and someone who was quite happy to see the hard working good citizens of Arsenal forest pay by far the very highest taxes in all the land for the privilege of living in his kingdom but delived only 4th class service!
Not exactly the stuff of man of the people legendary hero is it ;-)

4.) 06 Aug 2020 19:22:40
You are right - he had zero impact on style, diet or training or scouting in EPL, didn’t raise our global appeal due to style or trophies, didn’t let us see some of the best football ever and didn’t bring us the invincibles or loads of trophies. My bad - sorry gents. I forgot how easy winning trophies and getting European football was. Surely someone set the bar that high by achieving it 😉.

5.) 06 Aug 2020 20:06:58
Sorry SY mate I thought we were still talking about the Arsene quote you posted on originally at Leicester which didn't really match up with a man who repeatedly justified Arsenal fans having to pay by far the highest ticket prices in the country while he himself collected a super huge pay check off the back of those extortionate ticket prices.

6.) 06 Aug 2020 20:46:46
Yeah John, I forgot about the tyrants huge 9 million pay cheque a year.

7.) 06 Aug 2020 21:23:10
You can debate whether he deserved all that money or not but you can't deny he made sure everyone got paid and nobody had to leave because he wanted to sign a 32 year old freebie on 100k+ wages. High ticket prices? Nobody's going to lose their home over that.

8.) 06 Aug 2020 21:38:27
Hi Mark mate, I just think it's important to tell the whole story and not pick the best of or worst bits of anyone, I've never met anyone perfect yet and Arsene to me was never a bad guy but he certainly wasn't some humble champion of the people either. He did and said what served him best at the time.

9.) 06 Aug 2020 21:58:42
Him and hundreds of other managers before and since him Iceman. Let's not confuse the current unethical treatment our club is dishing out right now and paint everyone who didn't behave this way as heroes, we'll being giving out thousands and thousands of medals if we did that. Arsene was a corporation man when at Arsenal as he is now with fifa or uafa is it? none of us know how he would have behaved on this matter if he was still our manager today but history suggest he would most likely have defended the clubs decision as he always did while in place. No no one lost thier home but plenty of low paid loyal fans who'd attended Arsenal games for years lost their abilty to afford to do so due to ticket prices. Man of the of the people image doesn't seem to fit very well from my memory.

10.) 07 Aug 2020 06:33:19
SY4 simply pointed out that Wenger ran this club responsibly and took care of his staff. It was you who came up with these 'man of the people' images G62.

Everyone understands that change was needed when he left but not many seemed to understand it could make us worse.

I'm not trying to paint him as a hero or anything but when you look at what happened to us on and off the pitch since he left i think he would deserve more credit than what was given to him.

11.) 07 Aug 2020 09:29:46
Did he really run the club responsibly Iceman? So many players running down thier contracts and holding the club to ransom or leaving for free? Older players who were already injury prone and who were only available 2 or 3 games a season were given new contracts? and it was Arsenes watch that Mesut was given his ridiculous contract which is still a problem to this day.
Arsene said many many things when in charge at Arsenal and his comments on being responsible for 600 people's wages were merely another deflection tactic to justify his refusal to spend on new players when the whole football world was questioning his judgement yet again.

12.) 07 Aug 2020 10:01:17
I'm fairly sure I read an interview with Wenger since he left the club where he said one of the main issues compared to when he first joined was that there were too many people working at the club by the end of his reign. He felt because there were so many people not everyone was pulling in the same direction or cared about the success of the team.

13.) 07 Aug 2020 10:17:50
You are mixing up responsible with sensible G62. Short answer to your question is yes. The stability of the club was never jeopardised under his watch.



05 Aug 2020 07:14:46
Seen a few possible line ups in the papers if x or y happens. I like this :

Cedric Saliba Sarr Tierney
---Xhaka Doucouré
Pepe Coutinho Saka

Think that side could do pretty well and although Coutinho could be a problem, he would offer that bit of super quality we need. We could do it with Ozil as we didn't have two solid CDs or CDMs. This could allow us a more creative spark especially if Pepe / Saka / Willian put in a shirt.

I miss the Mesut of a few seasons ago or DB10. Bring that back while not being leaking in defence.




01 Aug 2020 19:51:13
Well played boys - trophy is coming home and everyone is wearing #14

David Luiz - awesome today. Well played.

Martinez - my number 1 all day long.

PEA - MOTM, so special!

Ceballos- excellent, Holding- great, AMN - awesome, Granit after a silly early mistake - awesome and hats off to Arteta for turning him around, Pepe great, Tierney - magic

So many great performances - well played Boss

One more time - well played Luiz and PEA.


1.) 01 Aug 2020 20:00:02
Excellent performance Excellent result,

2.) 01 Aug 2020 20:05:08
well played Arsenal. Although I support Chelsea so glad for the lads on this site. Great bunch and fully deserved.

{Ed047's Note - thanks Sid

3.) 01 Aug 2020 20:13:22
Top man Sid, I'm sure you boys and Frank will have some good times together in the years ahead mate.




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07 Aug 2020 13:03:20
And you’re back 62.




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06 Aug 2020 18:19:55
Can we sign one of those things that ensure it’s discussed in House of Parliament?




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06 Aug 2020 13:05:39
Go go go player power special powers! Let’s save the 55

Sure there are politics - why do you need scouts when you have Kia.




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29 Jul 2020 19:28:33
Can we send him back and write off the deposit / install ent we paid?

Find something in the returns small print or distance selling regs or may be we were given incorrect info and citizens advice can help us return at no cost.




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21 Jul 2020 00:10:01
We used to play an extra man in midfield because we were weak.

We play 5 at the back - why? Weak CBs?

Saliba ✅
Luiz - one game doesn’t mean anything. Disaster waiting to happen
Holding ✅
Mari ✅
Mustafi - not reliable enough and we’ve already got one liability
Mavropanos ✅

Just hope Luiz doesn’t play 🤞

We need a proper CDM - yes. I like AMN over Torriera and still unsure about Danny Boy. In the right midfield he might be ok.

Would like a leader in CD so clear out some space for a Adams type leader - that’s not Luiz or any of our current crop.





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11 Aug 2020 10:49:19
D16 - you are spot on. The club does a lot of great things and always has done.

I remember players signing numerous shirts etc for great causes and managers writing lovely letters - we are still a special club and our fans have a responsibility to ensure we stay that way.

I posted early about the redundancies as we are no different to other businesses in reality - we hold those close to us to higher standards.




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11 Aug 2020 10:46:12
what does being an Arsenal fan mean to you
✅ win / lose I am always a gooner.
✅No one is bigger than the club and I want to have distractions from day to day life
✅Belonging to a special group of supporters / fans who are proud of how we play the beautiful game

what do you expect from your club
✅ commitment to be the best we can, have a vision of what we want to achieve and be honest in communications.
✅Compete for league and ensure club still around for future generations

what role do you believe the club plays in today's community?
✅ respect the community it’s a part of, pays fair wage and good working conditions. Invest time or money back into less privileged areas.




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10 Aug 2020 19:38:32
Many companies will do what Arsenal are doing and as a football club, the players are our top priority. Many companies will use a C.V. 19 as an excuse to right size their real estate footprint, staffing and other expenditure.

Many companies will have no choice and do whatever it takes to maintain talent but shed any fat. We’ve got Brexit and the recession to cope with.

It’s no surprise that our great club is making the cuts, it hurts that with our wage bill that these 55 are being cut when we believed they were secure and I doubt 2m makes a huge difference. I just wish we had been honest and said we need to evolve our structure.

We’ve reduced the youth scouting to great effect and this is the next evolution - we’ve got a minimal shareholder interest so why not be transparent?

It won’t just be us but it hurts because it’s us. hope the 55 get a decent deal and find jobs.




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09 Aug 2020 18:36:32
Can imagine a TV camera following you 24/ 7 at work evaluating every decision and outcome. A panel of experts holding you more accountable and to a standard they never achieved. I was reading yesterday in the Times how the great German side who won the world cup have coped since. We mocked Per for stating he was sick before every game. I sure one of the fullbacks retired before 30 from that side due to pressure. Then you have the social networking sites slating you - a coach was telling me they encourage young players to not have social networking sites as the abuse of even a good game can be soul destroying so when you are in the dumps following a run of bad games - are you really ready for the abuse on line. On top of that the jealousy due to wages causing abuse due to sexual orientation, race, weight, appearance or simply a mistake you made on the pitch. yes they get loads of money but I bet it’s one of the toughest jobs with very few earning top top dollar. I am sure a number of ex-pros are suffering from heading the ball in the olden days etc etc and have to have a job to be financially secure. 100% sure even a player as young as Andy Linighan got a job running a plumbing company after he retired. He was playing well into the 90s so not that long ago.

Far harder than we think.




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09 Aug 2020 15:21:27
Pretty good documentary / it’s no last dance but a nice insight into a young misinterpreted talented individual. You can see how much Wenger admired him and how your surroundings growing up can impact how you are read later in life.

I was a huge Anelka fan and so sorry to see him leave. Could he have been better than Henry? I always wish he’d stayed but the fear of never having Henry and Henry’s persona around the club. Henry was more than just a player. Glad it turned out this was for us but I do wish he’d stayed a little longer.

Really interesting that he didn’t drive his kids towards football, wanted to be left alone, happy to throw his Euro medal away and really isn’t a huge advocate for the game

Glad I watched it and reminded of some of his goals and moments for us.

Guess back then in the Etonian era we were still a bit naughty stealing him from France.