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03 Jul 2019 19:57:15
126 million for a 19 year old who has made 26 first team appearances?
I think we forget about the Lacasette to Athloco rumours now:-)


1.) 04 Jul 2019 09:27:33
Who’s that mate.

2.) 04 Jul 2019 09:29:36
Sell him for 250 mil.

3.) 04 Jul 2019 19:39:16
Felix Welsh mate.



09 May 2019 21:17:34
I know this week has taught us it ain't over until it's over but Valencia now need 4 in the last 30 minutes plus stoppage time, even we can't throw this away, can we :-)




15 Sep 2018 23:50:16
Having seen the highlights I have to say it's the best game I've seen Xhaka have, had a huge say in both goals and no costly mistakes, very decent free kick but not a worldie as I thought the keeper should have done better in reality.
To me he still looks very awkward when he runs at more than a jog (which isn't often ) and his tackling is as crude as ever on the rare occasion it happens but still his best game in 2 years 5 games,
IS it enough to justify his inclusion? It's obviously a huge improvement on anything before but needs to happen more often than once every two seasons and 4 games for Arsenal to be top 4 contenders again.


1.) 16 Sep 2018 02:07:00
Xhaka looks far better alongside Torreira, as he provides the platform for Xhaka to play as a deep, false number 10, where he provides a vital link between defence and attack with his quality passing. Alongside Guendouzi he tends to end up playing deeper as a DM, which doesn't suit his style of play. Guendouzi is a fine young player, but he reminds me so much of Elneny both physically and in the 'headless chicken' style of play.

2.) 16 Sep 2018 09:34:58
Vital? Really!
Vital means someone you can't do without and while it's obviously not all down to him alone but we haven't made top 4 since Xhaka arrived after 20 years of consecutive qualification before he arrived.
Sanchez was vital to us being our best during his time as was Kos until recently but calling Xhaka vital is an extreme exaggeration to say the least.
If he continues to play like yesterday he will become an asset but he's long way to go to become an asset let alone vital.

3.) 16 Sep 2018 13:53:17
Vital! Really, once in a blue moon isn't vital. We played Newcastle, didn't still look solid defensively in midfield and it wasnt even a top half prem team. Vital my hairy arm. The sooner he is ejected with a couple more, the sooner we might actually improve.

4.) 16 Sep 2018 15:37:15
This range of passing makes me laugh. He has one nice pass that’s the one over the top to the left winger, everyone has their opinion but for me he isn’t up to scratc for challenging for silverware.

5.) 16 Sep 2018 15:40:22
It's so obvious that the 'vital' refers to that role in this system! Discuss if you think this system is correct, the midfield balance needs adjusting, no problem. If we need a player to move the ball though periods of possession, then he is clearly the best option in the squad, and thus gets picked. Not the best player in the team or whatever, as its boringly obvious you two hate him. Otherwise we fill our team up with box to box players who do a bit of everything, I'm not clever enough to know if that's better, but I'll trust Emery on this. Maybe Xhaka flourishes as the season grows, maybe we use the transfer market to improve on him, maybe we change the system. Keep discussing football RG, I enjoy it, even if I rarely contribute!

{Ed025's Note - you should a bit more ned..

6.) 16 Sep 2018 16:31:51
I don't hate Xhaka Ned in fact I don't hate anyone at all, not rating someone or seeing them as an asset to the team is a long long way from hating them mate.

7.) 16 Sep 2018 17:00:41
Wow! Calm down ned. I for sure don’t hate him and I can speak for myself in saying that I wasn’t one of the ones who jumped on the xhaka kaka train from game 2. I simply don’t think he’s of the Caliber to have us challenging mate.

8.) 16 Sep 2018 18:01:34
I don't hate xhaka, i don't like him as a arsenal footballer (not anywhere near good enough) i want the best for arsenal. IF i think a player is letting us down and i 100% are not on my own hear, ask wright, merson, shearer, rednap, souness, nicolas, etc, then i have my opinion why. Since the guy has joined us, he has not cemented his place and made it his own on performance. I think 2 plus years of putting up with nothing performances is long enough. It is nothing personal, its something arsenal. I repeat, i know no top six team supporter who rates him at all, in fact they think he is one of the worsed midfielders in the prem and laugh about him.

9.) 16 Sep 2018 18:17:27
He’s certainly not one of the worse midfielders and I know you did t say that steve. But he is most certainly not trophy class imo.

10.) 16 Sep 2018 18:43:06
Agree sanos alter ego, Lol. Most of my mates who support other teams just don't rate him at all, they really think he's shat. I just don't think he's that good really, i want better than him in our team for us to progress. I am baffled why he seems somewhat bullet proof for us. I honestly think he is a fraud midfielder.

11.) 16 Sep 2018 18:46:54
And Sano, he is one player i cannot put up an argument for when they are lambasting him. I get picked on when i do, Lol.

12.) 17 Sep 2018 16:44:21
Why would I assume, or care, if you hate him as a person? You state in abundance you hate him in the team, I don't understand all the defencivness and confusion. I basically replied that you'd totally mis-represented the use of vital in RG's post, and I think you don't comment sensibly on why Xhaka continues to get in the team. I never stated that Xhaka is our star player, I don't think it's in dispute he's been underwhelming. I definitely think he can be better, but may also need replacing. Also that if we change the balance of the midfield with the players we have available, then we'll need to adapt in other areas of the pitch to be creative or control possession. I suspect our wide forwards are not suited to the task.

13.) 17 Sep 2018 18:40:32
Ned, i think i understand what vital means. Xhaka isn't vital.

14.) 18 Sep 2018 06:21:05
Xhaka, one of Emery's 5 captains and selected for all 5 PL matches to date.
I believe Xhaka was one of many players in the latter Wenger era that went backwards as a player after arriving at the club. He was played as a DM, not his position and looked poorer for it. Emery is a successful, intelligent and adaptable manager who will get the best out of Xhaka. In all the matches where Torreira and Xhaka played togther, the partnership has looked promising and I can see this pairing forming part of the spine of the team. They compliment each other, with the excellent Torreira providing shape to the team and giving Xhaka more freedom to move forward, between the defence and the attack.

15.) 18 Sep 2018 13:07:50
Well said gunner ned.



31 Jul 2018 09:26:39
Only tabloid gossip so nothing to serious but should it by any chance be true Aaron to Chelsea for 30 million?
I'd take it big time.


1.) 31 Jul 2018 11:59:25
I wouldn't. He's an important goal contributor from midfield and competing with Xhaka for a place should bring out the best of both. For a player like Ramsey, who's been consistently one of the better midfielders in the league, and counts as homegrown, we should be demanding 50 minimum. It's bonkers, but so is everything else now.

2.) 31 Jul 2018 15:10:56
How can be one of the most consistent when he isn't consistently available wire mate
If he was that good why ain't we fighting the opposition off with a stick for his signature?

3.) 31 Jul 2018 19:15:05
Wire - with a year left on his contract we not going to get anywhere near 50Mill for Ramsey 30Mill tops and that might be pushing it tbh. Ramsey is a bit of a oddity in our side as he is actually one of the few offensively that are better without the ball than with the ball making some really good runs in the box he is kind of what Lampard used to be like in that sense. Yes he is a decent player but we have better in Ozil for his preferred position and he is replacable without doubt with equal or better with targets we could get. Maybe it is not down to money so much maybe he is not keen on the demands of Emery, and misses the protection of father figure Wenger and if that is the case good riddance we need all of them 100% on board and behind the coach. Out with the old cosy club and in with the new.

4.) 31 Jul 2018 22:41:04
G62 consistent in that he's averaged 6 goals and 6 assists a season in the league for the last 5 years. His return from deeper midfield is fairly steady. See what you mean on the contract situation though.

5.) 01 Aug 2018 12:28:08
Fair point Wire mate but with the lack of interest in Aaron from others so far 30 million might be ambitious.
Ox had both Liverpool and Chelsea chasing him last season but so far Aaron has no one very excited about signing him.
Just wondering what we see in Aaron Liverpool city Chelsea and Spurs don't see.



22 Jul 2018 18:29:27
Just searched Arsenal rumours and we are either about to give Iwobi a new contract or Lazio are looking to sign him.
Difficult to either is true.
Poor old Danny Welbeck seems the only player who we aren't prepared to offer a new deal, Iwobi Xhaka Chambers have all struggled and performed below Danny's level for us yet get new deals while Danny who is hardly a world beater but has done much better than the other 3 seems no longer required.


1.) 22 Jul 2018 23:01:59
Chambers? I thought he did well the end of the season.

2.) 23 Jul 2018 07:01:01
I hope the lazio rumours are true. how he kept getting in the team was one of last season's great mysteries!

3.) 23 Jul 2018 09:38:34
Excited about the Iwobi deal, gives us a player that doesn't stink of Wenger too much but has the morals of the club, ticks a couple of boxes there! He's been on and off but can develop into a zaha kind of a player. If not the actual potential but the kind of things he does on the pitch, stay wide AND cut inside-Emery loves, can cross and press, I think that is what Emery would want/ can get out of him. Looking forward to watching the BIG17 grow under UE. What do you guys think?

4.) 23 Jul 2018 11:55:02
Total waste of space, needs to be shipped out, i'm sure we have a younger player with more talent waiting to come through.

5.) 23 Jul 2018 16:20:32
If Iwobi Stays then i am not happy with Emery one bit he is by far the worst Arsenal winger I’ve seen in a long time.

6.) 23 Jul 2018 23:26:26
Although it was against a beach ball and flip flop wearing Burnley playing deeper Iwobi actually looked better than awful, if he was to have any future at Arsenal it's not out on the wing where the linesman is more involved then Iwobi 99 games out of 98.

7.) 24 Jul 2018 00:04:30
To be fair iwobi looked a decent player at first but stagnated like many. I think we really should give the lad another season or maybe a loan. Always seemed like there's potential there for me. Funny tho a lot of other fans at my work think he looks a decent player.




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15 Jul 2019 22:22:18
Delph to Everton for an initial 8.5 million raising to a maximum of 10 million, very good business at an extremely reasonable price in my opinion.
He may not be everyone's ideal signing but he's an England international good enough to be part of City's squad and at 8 to 10 million an early candidate for one of the bargain buys of the season possibly.


1.) 16 Jul 2019 06:24:54
Should be a decent signing for Everton, a team that finished 8th last season. As he approaches 30 years of age, I doubt very much that he is a regular top 4 player and certainly not a player I would have wanted at Arsenal.

2.) 16 Jul 2019 07:53:24
I was shocked at the price he wemt for ARG, at 8.5 million he's a bargain and we need bargain reinforcements.
Better than Elneny and Xhaka and England international which Maitland Miles isn't yet.
Is he someone i'd have on my dream list? Definitely not, but he is certainly an improvement on some we have at a price we could afford.
Torreira Guendouzi Maitland Niles and Delph is a more attractive proposition to me than Torreira Guendouzi Maitland Niles plus Xhaka and Elneny.

3.) 16 Jul 2019 09:08:37
Price wise he is i£8.5m rising to £10m with add ons, plus I’m certain he will be on high wages. The deal is for 3 years and at the end he will be 33 and have little value. I disagree that he is better than Xhaka. I would not like to sign him and would rather give youngsters more game time, such as Willock, Maitland-Niles, etc than sign him. Elneny, I agree has to go, he is simply not good enough. Hopefully we will tie up the deals for Tierney and Everton Soares, both players a in their early 20’s and far better signings than stop gap solutions in their 30’s.

4.) 16 Jul 2019 12:04:57
It's all opinions ARG mate but I don't think Xhaka would get in the Spurs West ham or Wolves squad where as Delph did and played 22 games in thier 100 point season. Delph v Xhaka? It's a no brainer for me personally and I wouldn't have thought there is much difference in wages between the two either because if Mustafi cost 34 million and is on 90k a week so much Xhaka be.



15 Jul 2019 08:52:02
A second Tierney bid of 25 million has been rejected by Celtic, 25 million is a Scottish record bid so it's most likely the terms of payment that is now the sticking point.
Talks are continuing so it still looks like the move may well happen.


1.) 15 Jul 2019 11:08:43
It’s to do with how much we are paying up front theybwant more than what we have offered.

2.) 15 Jul 2019 11:31:30
If reports are correct, it’s not the amount, but the payment schedule that is now the problem. Knowing our current negotiating team, it’s £50 down and balance paid monthly over the next decade!

3.) 15 Jul 2019 12:11:19
So you think Celtic want more than £50 down and a cheeky weekly £1 a week? :-.
I'm pretty sure the differences will be sorted an amicable agreement will be reached.
With football it's so easy to get detached from the reality of how huge a sum of money 25 million especially when you add on agents fees ect but it will be somewhere close to half the season tickets revenue for next season, which I think puts the money into a little more perspective for people like me who can't really comprehend what 25 to 30 million really means in football terms.

4.) 15 Jul 2019 12:24:46
We are waiting for finance to be approved.

5.) 15 Jul 2019 13:25:04
Of course the finances are not simple and the amounts are huge, but reports keep emerging during the window that indicate that we are pushing our luck. My comment was, of course, tongue in cheek.
I have a feeling we will agree a deal for Tierney and I read that our medical team are on the way to Brazil to carry out a medical on Everton Soares. I don’t know anything about him, hopefully Edu does! On U tube he seems to get hacked down and spends a lot of time on the floor.



12 Jul 2019 09:26:13
According to David Ormstein Mustafi has no desire to leave Arsenal, he's under contract until 2021 so I think our hands are pretty much tired on both Mustafi and Ozil running down their contracts with us.
I'm not sure how we go about moving forward with two players the manager obviously would like to see leave but can't shift.
It's a really difficult situation to know how to handle best, obviously it's not brilliant for a players motivation to know he's not wanted but equally it's not easy for a manager to justify letting half a million in wages be paid to players who don't play.




04 Jul 2019 20:30:31
Frank Lampard becomes Chelsea manager, is it a mistake for any player who has become a true club legend to return as a manager?
Frank seems to have matured into a really decent person and he did ok at Derby but given Chelseas extremely quick turnover in managers has he made a mistake in accepting the Chelsea job where his chances of lasting 3 seasons are extremely slim?


1.) 05 Jul 2019 01:09:34
Who cares about those Madness listenin' Blues and their new manager. COYG.

2.) 05 Jul 2019 15:28:20
Obviously nobody Ricky:-)
It was Just a bit of general football banter but I can see i need to narrow my thinking and interest and think Only Arsenal is interesting
Only Arsenal is interesting
Only Arsenal is interesting
Only Arsenal is interesting

I don't like music films or TV because
Only Arsenal is interesting
Only Arsenal is interesting

It's a funny old world:-)

3.) 05 Jul 2019 20:05:04
You know what else is interesting gunner. Arsenal.

4.) 05 Jul 2019 21:56:52
Fair comment 93 :-)
I must admit I do get distracted by other tnings sometimes mate, life family the world around me and a general interest in lots of things besides Arsenal I fear will always prevent me from ever being a fully signed up card carrying goonerbot:-)

5.) 06 Jul 2019 09:17:04

Going back to your post though, i think he will struggle. Aging squad, i don't think the youth are ready for league yet. And they have just lost the player who has carried them for the past 6/ 7 years. I think he should of turned it down, poor time to take it, but would he ever of got a better chance as nobody wanted it. We all see how poor our squad is, wait to see Chelsea’s at the start of the season, it will look worse than ours. I just hope he gets time, as the chelsea board like a re shuffle.

6.) 06 Jul 2019 15:15:29
I agree mate, it's a strange one because it's only natural he would want to manage the club where he became a true legend but at the sane time it does seem it's only a matter of when not if they sack him which has to sour his feelings towards the club to some degree.
It does seem at Chelsea boredom with mangers rather than lack of success sees them driven out.



02 Jul 2019 20:24:51
Get in there England:-)
The states look very very good but we are right back in it :-)


1.) 02 Jul 2019 20:43:37
Was lol.

2.) 02 Jul 2019 21:13:36
Very True Stephen, I hope Phil Nevile never wasted his time trying to convince our girls they were as good as the US because no one is, they are class above everyone else in the tournament but the best team don't always win in football especially if the other team give it everything they've got and refuse to give an inch without having it forced from them.
We need an humongous effort and the run of the ball if we aren't going out tonight.

3.) 02 Jul 2019 22:08:29
Isn’t there a token male presenter?

Can’t believe they missed a penalty - tough on the lions.

4.) 02 Jul 2019 22:58:50
Heartbreak hotel again for England but they gave it everything and made the best in the business work hard for their very very deserved victory.
Women's football has been big in the states for years but we catching up slowly.
Brave effort but once again no cigar.

5.) 03 Jul 2019 08:52:30
Should not of met a defender take the pen.

6.) 03 Jul 2019 10:34:58
Nice to see our women have the exact same blow it mentality as the men!

7.) 03 Jul 2019 13:11:16
Meant let.

8.) 03 Jul 2019 15:34:56
I'd have thought Lucy Bronze might have taken the pen myself but it's huge pressure on an individual and Steph Houghton stepped up like a true captain and accepted both the responsibility and unfortunately the blame too.
Incidentally I think Steph Houghton might have started her career up front and she played the 2015 world cup in midfield if I remember correctly, I think all players have the ability to score from 12 yards but not too many have the mentality to cope with the pressure on the biggest occasions whicb is why Staurt Pearce won everyone's respect in Euro 96 both for his bottle and the passion he showed in putting the ghost of Italia 90 to rest.
Personally I'd be taker number 18 in a penalty shoot out after I once took a penalty in a cup semi final and got closer to hitting the corner flag than the back of the net, that cured my enthusiasm for being a hero :-)




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17 Jul 2019 20:51:02
Good news but doesn't really get the excitement levels buzzing as we won't see him for at least another 12 months, but good news all the same.




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17 Jul 2019 08:08:20
Absolutely sparky mate but it's strange how some of the rubbish that print actually becomes fact in the memory of people.
The Mandela effect I think they call it.




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17 Jul 2019 08:04:24
Hope so, I always felt for him after the terrible way we fans treated him.
One of the lowest points in the clubs history in my opinion when our own fans reduced one of our own players to tears on the pitch.
We all get carried away sometimes and say and do things we later regret and what we did to Eboue is a horrible memory.
I hope he gets a job with the club and we get a chance to right a wrong and give him a brilliant reception.




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16 Jul 2019 18:25:43
Was there ever a Torreira situation in the first place?
From what I remember of it get said he was struggling to learn the English language and the media turned that into he was struggling living in England which then grew into he wanted to return to Italy which then turned into his wife didn't like the English weather.
All the poor bloke ever said was he was strangling with the language.




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16 Jul 2019 07:57:03
I forgot all about the Torreira stories of a few weeks back, wow that seems a long time ago now.
Yesterday's chip paper by now surely that one.





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17 Jul 2019 21:45:52
Because things were going oh so well under Arsene Welsh mate :-) , it seems like only 15 years ago we were last a competitive force:-) how time flys when your having fun.




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17 Jul 2019 20:36:29
Charlie makes a lot of ridiculous claims mate, I can't remember exactly what he said at one point last season but he claimed to have inside info on something extremely fanciful and far fetched that obviously never came to anything.
He does seem to have his very own take on reality sometimes.




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17 Jul 2019 18:19:35
Yes Arg but the market usaully goes mad in the last few days and in the last week there are probably more deals done than in the rest of all the other weeks of the entire summer combined.
We can guess we can be optimistic or pessimistic but in reality it's only when the window closes that we will really know anything.




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17 Jul 2019 17:22:09
I've just read Emerys comments and the " We are planing to sign some Very Very Expensive players " quote sounds like an absolute 100% blagg to me, sorry but why would you say that?
You might say " we are prepared to spend the market value on players we want " or something similar but " Very Very Expensive players " sounds like an empty soundbite a polition would use when trying to win public opinion.




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17 Jul 2019 16:57:48
What another one? How sure do we want to be, he's already passed 3 :-)