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10 Nov 2019 09:02:59
I'm not sure if Emery can't or won't change his ways but either way it's plainly obvious his ways his methods his tactics just aren't working at premier league level.
What would be the point in continuing with Emery few more games or weeks! What is going to suddenly start working that hasn't worked upto this point in time?
9 points over 26 games isn't impossible to make up but neither will it be a formality for a new manager either.

There are absolutely no guarantees that if we change managers things will suddenly come good but there is a genuine possibility they might under a different manager that simply doesn't exist under Emery.

We have a squad that has the quality in abundance we just need someone who can organise and motivate them into a cohesive team that functions to its full potential.
There is no logical reason to carry on with Emery, I've read people saying the club don't want to pay his compensation money and would rather let him see out his contact to save what a £3 millions pay off?

But that's just people being negative towards the board because I'm sure Josh and Co are more than capable of working out the financial loss of champions league football money v £3 million in compensation without the need to consult the world's greatest mathematic brains first.

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1.) 10 Nov 2019 13:24:20
As usual, nothing to disagree with from G62. I have little faith in the board to act decisively. They have a history of dithering and fiddling while the team burns on the pitch. As you said elsewhere, the only language they understand is empty terracing. I would rather listen to us lose on the radio, than freeze my arse off sitting at the Emirates.

I would love to be wrong, but those hoping for a sacking on Monday. I wouldn't hold my breath.


2.) 10 Nov 2019 15:08:24
Hi Urban mate I think you've got it bang on, vote with you bum if your not happy and spend your time doing something that does make you happy until the club team and manager give you reason to feel they are your best way of spending your time and money again.


3.) 10 Nov 2019 19:24:06
I just don’t know how emery is making Managing Arsenal look like a difficult job? This season I honestly couldn’t tell you what system we’re playing. Yes Wenger was dated, but you knew what you was getting. A team trying to play possession football until an opening presented itself. Against Leicester, we couldn’t even string 5 passes together. No one knew where each other are, we got strikers playing like wingers, playing so deep against a team that plays with 1 striker. Emery isn’t connected to his players and he’s not connected to the fans. Sack this tactical fraud, leave Freddie in charge til we can get a manager with a clear vision.


4.) 10 Nov 2019 19:43:08
It's true ice mate we have no identity no structure no Arsenal way of playing that the players can get they're heads around and become comfortable with and most importantly good at.
Every game a different starting 11 a different game plan a different formation what chance do our players have? And of course they are only human so are naturally becoming deflated and losing interest and motivation to simply indulge yet more nonsense.


5.) 11 Nov 2019 09:58:15
Icy, you are so right. It was embarrassing watching us play what amounted to a back five against a side with a lone striker. And Gunner, spot on about identity, we don't have one at all. We even had one under Graham, albeit based on grinding opponents down and a very flat back four with their hands up every five minutes. I watched Liverpool yesterday afternoon, and even with some (one) lucky breaks, they looked every bit the finished article where we look pedestrian. The worst of it is, our front three/ four are the measure of anything Liverpool have got. But the rest is disorganised, poorly deployed, and yes, lacking any kind of identity.

The papers (I know) are this morning reporting the boards confidence in Emery. If true, I'm not surprised. Of course, we don't want a trigger happy board, but one season, and a third of this one, is enough to know. It could be a long frustrating season.


6.) 11 Nov 2019 10:25:20
In a game that’s about numbers and statistics, I’d be curious to know which one Emery is impressing in, that’s keeping him in that seat.
Ed any inside news on what’s happening? I just can’t accept the board are content with him because under him, Speaking statistically, we won’t challenge top 4 and we don’t want to bank winning Europe when we can’t hold a clean sheet.

{Ed002's Note - It was a mistake brining him in and as I said he was far from first choice. The club has gambled financially on getting in to the top four come the end of the season, and that remains the primary target. It is difficult to see anything happening before the summer when I suspect there might well be a change.}


7.) 11 Nov 2019 10:54:47
The papers are all quoting Ormstein Urban mate so it's a highly credible that is the boards position.
I'm pinning my hopes on the board using Ormstein as a deflection tactic and going to surprise us all as they did when they let the papers run with the "we only had 40 million to spend" story all last summer then bosh! broke our transfer record :-) I know it's not a theory you'd want to put your house on being correct is it :-) ?
Like you said yesterday mate vote with your bum and if your not happy with what's being offered simply don't accept it and find a more enjoyable way of spending your time and money, 20,000 empty seats is an extremely difficult fans message to ignore for long.


8.) 12 Nov 2019 06:49:18
I'm with you 62 fingers crossed 🤞.


 

 

08 Aug 2019 08:37:02
Ormstein
Arsenal and Chelsea have agreed an 8 million fee for David Luiz and Tierney will complete his 25 million move today also.

Where's Wesley? Could be a very busy day for you Wes mate.

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03 Jul 2019 19:57:15
126 million for a 19 year old who has made 26 first team appearances?
I think we forget about the Lacasette to Athloco rumours now:-)

gunner62

1.) 04 Jul 2019 09:27:33
Who’s that mate.


2.) 04 Jul 2019 09:29:36
Sell him for 250 mil.


3.) 04 Jul 2019 19:39:16
Felix Welsh mate.


 

 

09 May 2019 21:17:34
I know this week has taught us it ain't over until it's over but Valencia now need 4 in the last 30 minutes plus stoppage time, even we can't throw this away, can we :-)

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15 Sep 2018 23:50:16
Having seen the highlights I have to say it's the best game I've seen Xhaka have, had a huge say in both goals and no costly mistakes, very decent free kick but not a worldie as I thought the keeper should have done better in reality.
To me he still looks very awkward when he runs at more than a jog (which isn't often ) and his tackling is as crude as ever on the rare occasion it happens but still his best game in 2 years 5 games,
IS it enough to justify his inclusion? It's obviously a huge improvement on anything before but needs to happen more often than once every two seasons and 4 games for Arsenal to be top 4 contenders again.

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1.) 16 Sep 2018 02:07:00
Xhaka looks far better alongside Torreira, as he provides the platform for Xhaka to play as a deep, false number 10, where he provides a vital link between defence and attack with his quality passing. Alongside Guendouzi he tends to end up playing deeper as a DM, which doesn't suit his style of play. Guendouzi is a fine young player, but he reminds me so much of Elneny both physically and in the 'headless chicken' style of play.


2.) 16 Sep 2018 09:34:58
Vital? Really!
Vital means someone you can't do without and while it's obviously not all down to him alone but we haven't made top 4 since Xhaka arrived after 20 years of consecutive qualification before he arrived.
Sanchez was vital to us being our best during his time as was Kos until recently but calling Xhaka vital is an extreme exaggeration to say the least.
If he continues to play like yesterday he will become an asset but he's long way to go to become an asset let alone vital.


3.) 16 Sep 2018 13:53:17
Vital! Really, once in a blue moon isn't vital. We played Newcastle, didn't still look solid defensively in midfield and it wasnt even a top half prem team. Vital my hairy arm. The sooner he is ejected with a couple more, the sooner we might actually improve.


4.) 16 Sep 2018 15:37:15
This range of passing makes me laugh. He has one nice pass that’s the one over the top to the left winger, everyone has their opinion but for me he isn’t up to scratc for challenging for silverware.


5.) 16 Sep 2018 15:40:22
It's so obvious that the 'vital' refers to that role in this system! Discuss if you think this system is correct, the midfield balance needs adjusting, no problem. If we need a player to move the ball though periods of possession, then he is clearly the best option in the squad, and thus gets picked. Not the best player in the team or whatever, as its boringly obvious you two hate him. Otherwise we fill our team up with box to box players who do a bit of everything, I'm not clever enough to know if that's better, but I'll trust Emery on this. Maybe Xhaka flourishes as the season grows, maybe we use the transfer market to improve on him, maybe we change the system. Keep discussing football RG, I enjoy it, even if I rarely contribute!

{Ed025's Note - you should a bit more ned..


6.) 16 Sep 2018 16:31:51
I don't hate Xhaka Ned in fact I don't hate anyone at all, not rating someone or seeing them as an asset to the team is a long long way from hating them mate.


7.) 16 Sep 2018 17:00:41
Wow! Calm down ned. I for sure don’t hate him and I can speak for myself in saying that I wasn’t one of the ones who jumped on the xhaka kaka train from game 2. I simply don’t think he’s of the Caliber to have us challenging mate.


8.) 16 Sep 2018 18:01:34
I don't hate xhaka, i don't like him as a arsenal footballer (not anywhere near good enough) i want the best for arsenal. IF i think a player is letting us down and i 100% are not on my own hear, ask wright, merson, shearer, rednap, souness, nicolas, etc, then i have my opinion why. Since the guy has joined us, he has not cemented his place and made it his own on performance. I think 2 plus years of putting up with nothing performances is long enough. It is nothing personal, its something arsenal. I repeat, i know no top six team supporter who rates him at all, in fact they think he is one of the worsed midfielders in the prem and laugh about him.


9.) 16 Sep 2018 18:17:27
He’s certainly not one of the worse midfielders and I know you did t say that steve. But he is most certainly not trophy class imo.


10.) 16 Sep 2018 18:43:06
Agree sanos alter ego, Lol. Most of my mates who support other teams just don't rate him at all, they really think he's shat. I just don't think he's that good really, i want better than him in our team for us to progress. I am baffled why he seems somewhat bullet proof for us. I honestly think he is a fraud midfielder.


11.) 16 Sep 2018 18:46:54
And Sano, he is one player i cannot put up an argument for when they are lambasting him. I get picked on when i do, Lol.


12.) 17 Sep 2018 16:44:21
Why would I assume, or care, if you hate him as a person? You state in abundance you hate him in the team, I don't understand all the defencivness and confusion. I basically replied that you'd totally mis-represented the use of vital in RG's post, and I think you don't comment sensibly on why Xhaka continues to get in the team. I never stated that Xhaka is our star player, I don't think it's in dispute he's been underwhelming. I definitely think he can be better, but may also need replacing. Also that if we change the balance of the midfield with the players we have available, then we'll need to adapt in other areas of the pitch to be creative or control possession. I suspect our wide forwards are not suited to the task.


13.) 17 Sep 2018 18:40:32
Ned, i think i understand what vital means. Xhaka isn't vital.


14.) 18 Sep 2018 06:21:05
Xhaka, one of Emery's 5 captains and selected for all 5 PL matches to date.
I believe Xhaka was one of many players in the latter Wenger era that went backwards as a player after arriving at the club. He was played as a DM, not his position and looked poorer for it. Emery is a successful, intelligent and adaptable manager who will get the best out of Xhaka. In all the matches where Torreira and Xhaka played togther, the partnership has looked promising and I can see this pairing forming part of the spine of the team. They compliment each other, with the excellent Torreira providing shape to the team and giving Xhaka more freedom to move forward, between the defence and the attack.


15.) 18 Sep 2018 13:07:50
Well said gunner ned.


 

 

 

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06 Dec 2019 08:13:28
Half of us thought anyone could organise our defence better than Arsene but obviously Emery couldn't
Almost all of us thought anyone could do better with our squad than Emery but obviously Fredie can't
We need to be extremely careful about who comes in next because If we panic we could find ourselves looking for our 4th manager of the season come March.
Yes we'd all like to see everything sorted out yesterday but if we get our next choice wrong it doesn't bare thinkingabout.

gunner62

1.) 06 Dec 2019 09:27:18
Absolutely right. But do we trust the board to get it right? I'm not sure I do.


2.) 06 Dec 2019 09:48:13
They have little choice but to do everything in their power Urban mate because championship revenue ain't a patch on premier league revenue and if the Emirates is only 2/ 3rds full now imagine what a home a game against Peterborough on Tuesday night in November might do to attendances next season.


3.) 06 Dec 2019 14:28:07
Gunner, you have it right. And re: above, If the elite managers are going to be hard to tempt, how about Howe (no pun intended) . At the very least he won't take any nonsense and give us a bit of organisation. My only worry would be if he is big enough to manage big players. Desperate times may need desperate measures. Who knows, he may turn out to something he has hinted at but not had the players for.


 

 

05 Dec 2019 23:01:34
I applaud Mesut Ozil public display of passion and anger, no polite clapping of fans it was absolutely awful and Ozil showed he cared and felt the same way as the rest of us Ozil and Mertesacker feel out at man city in 2013 because Ozil wouldn't simply accept awful performance and clap politely, we should have backed him 100% then.

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1.) 05 Dec 2019 23:36:25
Not angry enough. I would have punched Luiz and shouted at Leno for messing around at the back. Then I would have grabbed the two CDMs and told them where to play and how to protect the back 4. Get angry - yes but transmit that to a better performance in the game. Make more runs etc - don’t wait till the end to show your anger or determination 👊.


 

 

05 Dec 2019 20:49:01
3rd of the way through and zzzzzzzz I've painted a wall so I can alternate between watching it dry abd this game, I'm learning more about the wall minute by minute :-)

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1.) 05 Dec 2019 21:05:15
Some people in the crowd are reading while the games in progress, horrible awful stuff, pretty much nothing different to under Emery no better no worse so far.

{Ed047's Note - for me a huge mistake allowing Emery to continue after the end of last season.

He’s taken us so far backwards we are in genuine trouble.


2.) 05 Dec 2019 21:18:59
Agreed Ed mate, it was obvious last April we'd got it wrong in choice of new manager, we are in trouble as we stand and a draw wouldn't be even close to good enough.

{Ed047's Note - just the owners being too tight to pay him off. Ridiculous


3.) 05 Dec 2019 21:59:15
I would have sacked him after his first pre season - shambolic from the start.

{Ed047's Note - he suckered people in with that unbeaten run when it was clear we were winging every game by the skin of our teeth.


4.) 05 Dec 2019 22:17:49
I know and I got hammered for speaking the truth and “wanting” Wenger back 😂😂

Nope - just saw zero improvement and a hopeless manager. I referred to him as the Emperor with no clothes 😂😂.

{Ed047's Note - well we’re definitely worse without him! 😂


5.) 05 Dec 2019 22:20:15
What board sanctions 73m on a winger and 8m on a much needed defender 🤷‍♂️🤷‍♂️

Stick or twist in Jan window - we need a clear out but we won’t.


6.) 05 Dec 2019 22:25:42
To be fair to Emery he did say when that run ended that we could easily have lost any game during it.
I was one of those fans who didn't want to see the problems during that run even though they were plainly obvious for all to see, we wanted it to be ok so I and others played let's all pretend.


 

 

05 Dec 2019 08:53:17
Getting a win tonight is crucial because it would certainly boost confidence level to take to West ham Monday and if we could somehow make it 2 wins on the trot before we face City we might all be able to watch the City on the couch rather than from behind it :-)
Draw or even lose v Brighton tonight and it might be worth checking ability of desert island getaways with absolutely no contact with the outside world for a fortnight:-) .
I'm going 3 0 to the Arsenal tonight and fearless Fred giving the board something to think about.

gunner62

1.) 05 Dec 2019 12:54:10
New poster, reading for years but finally decided to dip my toes into the water :-) agree that 3 points is massive for us tonight with games we have ahead, ima go with 3-1 as I don’t see us keeping a clean sheet any time soon ;)


2.) 05 Dec 2019 14:30:13
Actually looking forward to the game tonight. Genuinely the first time in 3 years. I’ve turned down free tickets many times with Emery in charge but now I am hopeful and excited! COYG.


 

 

04 Dec 2019 22:01:25
Leicester? I'm impressed. 35 points from 15 games is some return can they keep it up? I'm not so sure but so far so brilliant.

gunner62

{Ed047's Note - they play Liverpool over Christmas so that’ll be a measure of what they’re made of.


1.) 04 Dec 2019 22:22:04
Absolutely Ed mate, if they can beat Liverpool we will most definitely have to take them seriously, should be some contest, Vardy v VAR :-)

{Ed047's Note - 😂😂


2.) 04 Dec 2019 23:36:56
young team young players they will fade after christmas, watch southamton climb the table, now they have a good manger!


 

 

 

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07 Dec 2019 11:06:21
Let him go bring on Martinelli and bring back Eddie from Leeds.
Let the egos go and replace with the enthusiastic endless effort filled players who want to be here.
Can we do worse than we are now?

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03 Dec 2019 08:21:57
Excellent post wire mate and for me it's these things we should be concentrating on rather than play musical chairs with playing staff constantly. Work work work on what's wrong then in the summer evaluate who is and isn't capable of change and improvement.

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03 Dec 2019 08:14:07
We could try the novel idea of picking an 11 and formation and sticking with it for 5 games I guess rather than chop change tinker tweek from game to game.
I agree ice play Luis DM Just in front of Chambers and Papa or Holding.
Sooner or later you've got to say this is my best 11 and back your own judgement and work on all weaknesses and mistakes in traing with those 11.
Be proactive be positive rather than keep reacting to every negative moment.
Give it 5 games come rain or shine and then tweek if and where necessary.

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02 Dec 2019 23:27:01
Pressure for results I guess mate, but that doesn't explain Xhaka playing.
I think the plan was Auba Lacca Pepe with Ozil frozen completely out of the picture in an attempt to force him out of the club but results performances and pressure forced a change of plan instead and the struggling Pepe had to make way in an attempt to turn things around.
It's all a mess right now and a fresh start is needed in all departments.

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02 Dec 2019 18:13:56
Holding looks good in a back 3 but struggles Just like the rest in flat back 4.
Overall it doesn't seem to make any difference flat back 4 or 3 at the back, Xhaka in or out nothing seems to change no matter who or what formation we play.
Something is somewhere is amiss and we need to firstly find out what it is then do whatever it takes to sort it out.

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06 Dec 2019 22:49:16
First and foremost we need to find someone with a track record to suggest he can almost certainly keep this group of players from taking us down.
Secondly we need to find someone with that track record who would also actually take the job if it was offered.
Getting both of those things is looking pretty tricky right now.
Come May we can start again by letting players go and bringing in players who are new manager can work with but for now our priority is getting to May and still being a premier league team.

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06 Dec 2019 22:37:33
One thing I'm sure he would do is put a stop to our players all falling down like they've been hit with a plank of wood every time they get touched.
Lacca and Torreira were embarrassing last night with all the play acting hoping to con the officials into doing their job for them they didn't fancy putting the effort needed to do themselves.
The women's game is a lot lot more honest than the men's game so that alone would be a very welcome change from this collection of Arsenal individuals.

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06 Dec 2019 20:19:43
Cheaper pies too :-)

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06 Dec 2019 18:11:31
Unbelievably I am 93 mate :-)
A step back, an embarrassing u turn and an extremely desperate move but given our options it MIGHT be the best of all the unthinkable ones available to us
Sam Tony Pulis Steve Macclaren or Arsene? As Malaga says WHO YA GONA CALL? :-)
50% of fans would be on board immediately while 40% would be reluctant but prefer Arsene to relegation and the other 10% would of course rather be in Ismathian league south than take Arsene back :-)

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06 Dec 2019 17:59:46
Season tickets will be cheaper and much more available next season and it won't be a problem getting tickets for Derby games v Millwall QPR and Brentford :-)
I wonder if Leeds will loan us some of their youngsters as we pass each other on the way :-)
You've got to laugh, now the initial shock of last night has worn off.

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