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18 Dec 2019 21:55:50
Apparently City are surprised by the talk of us announcing Artetta as our manager when we haven't even spoken to them and agreed compensation.
Whatever has happened at Arsenal we used to be so prim and proper in how we conducted our business.

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1.) 19 Dec 2019 11:17:19
This could be because the way they poached our players in the past. Pay back I guess.


2.) 19 Dec 2019 12:48:18
I doubt it but if so how old is josh 5?
City have well moved on from the Mark Hughes buy Arsenal days and have no interest in any of our players now days.
I'd incompetence was the more likely explanation than pay back.


 

 

10 Nov 2019 09:02:59
I'm not sure if Emery can't or won't change his ways but either way it's plainly obvious his ways his methods his tactics just aren't working at premier league level.
What would be the point in continuing with Emery few more games or weeks! What is going to suddenly start working that hasn't worked upto this point in time?
9 points over 26 games isn't impossible to make up but neither will it be a formality for a new manager either.

There are absolutely no guarantees that if we change managers things will suddenly come good but there is a genuine possibility they might under a different manager that simply doesn't exist under Emery.

We have a squad that has the quality in abundance we just need someone who can organise and motivate them into a cohesive team that functions to its full potential.
There is no logical reason to carry on with Emery, I've read people saying the club don't want to pay his compensation money and would rather let him see out his contact to save what a £3 millions pay off?

But that's just people being negative towards the board because I'm sure Josh and Co are more than capable of working out the financial loss of champions league football money v £3 million in compensation without the need to consult the world's greatest mathematic brains first.

gunner62

1.) 10 Nov 2019 13:24:20
As usual, nothing to disagree with from G62. I have little faith in the board to act decisively. They have a history of dithering and fiddling while the team burns on the pitch. As you said elsewhere, the only language they understand is empty terracing. I would rather listen to us lose on the radio, than freeze my arse off sitting at the Emirates.

I would love to be wrong, but those hoping for a sacking on Monday. I wouldn't hold my breath.


2.) 10 Nov 2019 15:08:24
Hi Urban mate I think you've got it bang on, vote with you bum if your not happy and spend your time doing something that does make you happy until the club team and manager give you reason to feel they are your best way of spending your time and money again.


3.) 10 Nov 2019 19:24:06
I just don’t know how emery is making Managing Arsenal look like a difficult job? This season I honestly couldn’t tell you what system we’re playing. Yes Wenger was dated, but you knew what you was getting. A team trying to play possession football until an opening presented itself. Against Leicester, we couldn’t even string 5 passes together. No one knew where each other are, we got strikers playing like wingers, playing so deep against a team that plays with 1 striker. Emery isn’t connected to his players and he’s not connected to the fans. Sack this tactical fraud, leave Freddie in charge til we can get a manager with a clear vision.


4.) 10 Nov 2019 19:43:08
It's true ice mate we have no identity no structure no Arsenal way of playing that the players can get they're heads around and become comfortable with and most importantly good at.
Every game a different starting 11 a different game plan a different formation what chance do our players have? And of course they are only human so are naturally becoming deflated and losing interest and motivation to simply indulge yet more nonsense.


5.) 11 Nov 2019 09:58:15
Icy, you are so right. It was embarrassing watching us play what amounted to a back five against a side with a lone striker. And Gunner, spot on about identity, we don't have one at all. We even had one under Graham, albeit based on grinding opponents down and a very flat back four with their hands up every five minutes. I watched Liverpool yesterday afternoon, and even with some (one) lucky breaks, they looked every bit the finished article where we look pedestrian. The worst of it is, our front three/ four are the measure of anything Liverpool have got. But the rest is disorganised, poorly deployed, and yes, lacking any kind of identity.

The papers (I know) are this morning reporting the boards confidence in Emery. If true, I'm not surprised. Of course, we don't want a trigger happy board, but one season, and a third of this one, is enough to know. It could be a long frustrating season.


6.) 11 Nov 2019 10:25:20
In a game that’s about numbers and statistics, I’d be curious to know which one Emery is impressing in, that’s keeping him in that seat.
Ed any inside news on what’s happening? I just can’t accept the board are content with him because under him, Speaking statistically, we won’t challenge top 4 and we don’t want to bank winning Europe when we can’t hold a clean sheet.

{Ed002's Note - It was a mistake brining him in and as I said he was far from first choice. The club has gambled financially on getting in to the top four come the end of the season, and that remains the primary target. It is difficult to see anything happening before the summer when I suspect there might well be a change.}


7.) 11 Nov 2019 10:54:47
The papers are all quoting Ormstein Urban mate so it's a highly credible that is the boards position.
I'm pinning my hopes on the board using Ormstein as a deflection tactic and going to surprise us all as they did when they let the papers run with the "we only had 40 million to spend" story all last summer then bosh! broke our transfer record :-) I know it's not a theory you'd want to put your house on being correct is it :-) ?
Like you said yesterday mate vote with your bum and if your not happy with what's being offered simply don't accept it and find a more enjoyable way of spending your time and money, 20,000 empty seats is an extremely difficult fans message to ignore for long.


8.) 12 Nov 2019 06:49:18
I'm with you 62 fingers crossed 🤞.


 

 

08 Aug 2019 08:37:02
Ormstein
Arsenal and Chelsea have agreed an 8 million fee for David Luiz and Tierney will complete his 25 million move today also.

Where's Wesley? Could be a very busy day for you Wes mate.

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03 Jul 2019 19:57:15
126 million for a 19 year old who has made 26 first team appearances?
I think we forget about the Lacasette to Athloco rumours now:-)

gunner62

1.) 04 Jul 2019 09:27:33
Who’s that mate.


2.) 04 Jul 2019 09:29:36
Sell him for 250 mil.


3.) 04 Jul 2019 19:39:16
Felix Welsh mate.


 

 

09 May 2019 21:17:34
I know this week has taught us it ain't over until it's over but Valencia now need 4 in the last 30 minutes plus stoppage time, even we can't throw this away, can we :-)

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16 Apr 2021 14:03:46
Extremely Hypothetical fun question

If you could spin a coin, heads or tails and the prize was 30 extra points for calling correct or minus 30pts if you called wrong would you gamble?
30 extra points would put us top and 1 point clear of City with 7 games to go
But
Minus 30pts would put us 1pt ahead of Sheffield United and 17 behind Newcastle and safety with just 7 games.

Would you accept the gamble or stick as we are and live to fight another season for sure?

gunner62

1.) 16 Apr 2021 14:30:34
I give up lol.

{Ed077's Note - to avoid relegation you wouldnt need to finish above Newcastle. You would have to finish above SHU, West Brom and Fulham. And Fulham are 6 points behind Newcastle and 2 above WBA having played a game more. So it would be more like 11-12 points from safety.


2.) 16 Apr 2021 15:40:17
Oh yeah thanks Ed077! I'm can be so thick it's unreal 😎

Same question except forget Newcastle and 17pts but instead think Fulham and 11pts behind with 7 games to go or 1pt ahead of City With 7 games to go.

Would you risk the gamble or stick as we are?
It's just meant to be a fun question not a referendum on Arteta or a opinion poll about whether it's ethical to mine the world's oceans 🤗.

{Ed077's Note - I would be reluctant to take the risk with 17 points to make up in 7 games but with 12 points, I am definitely going to take it. And it does help that I don't trust Arsenal to sustain the 1 point lead to City anyways lol😂


3.) 16 Apr 2021 17:23:52
I totally understand Ed077 mate, if it was United we were talking about I'd very happily gamble 1pt increase if guessed correct v demotion to the tier 11 of the football pyramid if guessed wrong, and I'd quite happily call tails if there was a double heeded coin available 🖒 no offence meant mate, I'm sure you understand 😎.

{Ed077's Note - none taken. It must have been hard all those years seeing your team be good but someone else be a class above :-P}


4.) 16 Apr 2021 17:52:05
I think concentrate on getting points the normal way

Eh 62.


5.) 16 Apr 2021 18:11:48
They way we play these days, even if I took the gamble and won, went a point ahead of City with seven games to go - we'd probably still manage to finish in 9th place.


6.) 16 Apr 2021 18:52:12
Yeah I agree Banbury mate, the potential los would outweigh the possible rewards.

Unfortunately Sharpie that impossibly can't be dismissed as unthinkable, far from it 😂.


7.) 16 Apr 2021 19:15:56
I know winning trophies is the main objective, but for me we have something amazing in never being relegated and therefore having the longest unbroken run in the top tier. No one else in our league can say that, and therefore I would never risk breaking that record.


8.) 16 Apr 2021 19:43:36
Fair comment Epping mate, your spot on, it's only us and Everton who've never been relegated but we've been there longer than Everton so the longest serving top flight club.

I've seen every club bar Arsenal Everton and Liverpool play outside the top flight since I've been watching the game, still remember Denis Law relegating United with his back heeled goal for City and Spurs looking quite good in the second division 😂.


9.) 16 Apr 2021 20:44:54
I wouldn’t trust the boss or mentality to be so close to the relegation battle. We could recover from missing out on league but not getting relegated. I wouldn’t risk anything of personal importance on Arteta having to get an important win. Can you imagine last game in a relegation battle and we piss around at the back, drop performers and tinker so much to counter the opposition. I’ll take the points as never want to see us relegated - we could fold with our debt and wage bill. Got a cold sweat thinking about it.


 

 

15 Apr 2021 21:57:54
Good call Fanatic, you old romantic you 🤗.

gunner62

1.) 15 Apr 2021 23:09:16
Sometimes you just feel it mate. Let's tackle Villareal now. I will share another feeling, if we avoid Manchester United in the final, we can go all the way. If we face them it will be tricky ala Chelsea 2019.
Let's focus on Emery first!


 

 

12 Apr 2021 20:01:24
Just seen the most valuable club list and apparently United drip out of the top 3 and Bayern move into it and Barcelona replace Real as number 1.

Genuine question, what makes a club most valuable and one club of more value than another?

To my thinking everything that has a commercial value is only worth what someone else is prepared to pay for it.

gunner62

{Ed002's Note - It is the value of fixed assets plus a multiple of annual turnover.}


1.) 12 Apr 2021 22:15:38
Thank you for the answer E002.


2.) 12 Apr 2021 22:33:36
Do image rights qualify as fixed assets? I'd be interested to see how much they lose when they sell Messi. I imagine it would be more than any sort of transfer fee.

{Ed002's Note - Messi is not a fixed asset.


3.) 12 Apr 2021 23:19:07
I guess fixed assets means stadium and the value of the ground it stands on plus worldwide appeal of the club, but I don't know for sure what it entails.

{Ed002's Note - The "worldwide appeal" is not a fixed asset - it is what is referred to as "goodwill".


4.) 13 Apr 2021 12:27:19
Ah got it, I just assumed that players counted as equipment, ha.


5.) 14 Apr 2021 03:03:02
Players are transitionary employees and therefore not fixed assets. They’d likely be considered current assets which typically have a life span of ~5 years.


 

 

12 Apr 2021 13:06:16
Chambers is man of the match v West ham and starts v Liverpool.

The entire team give an awful performance v Liverpool and Chambers is banished from the EL match day 18.

The team put in a poor performance in the EL Chambers is brought back into the starting 11 v Sheffield United and does well.

Is Arteta a genius or weak reactionary manager who picks his victims in accordance to who he feels he can away with it with?

gunner62

1.) 12 Apr 2021 14:04:16
Picks his victims that won’t give him a backlash, I’m not a fan of Chambers but he’s starting to prove me wrong.


2.) 12 Apr 2021 15:10:13
As Vinny Jones said in Lock stock

" there are those with big balls and those with little baby balls " which one is Mikel?

He ain't Boris the sneaky Russian that's for sure 😂.


3.) 12 Apr 2021 21:08:13
Very good 62 😂.


4.) 12 Apr 2021 21:51:52
Every time I see Holding play I see nothing wrong, and yet he is another that gets dropped all the time. Arteta really needs to give these players a run of games.


5.) 12 Apr 2021 22:35:20
Having watched Bellerin this season I think it's fairly obvious that Chambers has been the better player. Let him and Cedric fight it out for the RB spot, enjoyed the performances of both.


6.) 12 Apr 2021 23:21:17
Chambers on the bench can cover RB CB and DM at a push so a valuable sub if not starter, but not last Thursday it seems.


7.) 12 Apr 2021 23:49:11
Cheers Banbury mate 😀

Artera seems afraid to exclude Luis Gabriel Party Pepe Willian Auba from the match day 18 while it seems he's never afraid to flex his goosebumps ( I mean muscles 😀) and leave out Chambers Holding Mari Elneny ERS Martinelli Balogun regardless of thier effort performances desire and form.

You've got to ask " has Arteta got the minerals " 😎.


 

 

11 Apr 2021 14:20:34
Win today and we are mathematically safe from relegation with 7 games to spear.

Up the Arsenal 🖒
😀😁😃😃😆.

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07 Apr 2021 20:20:25
If he has good options it's difficult to think why he would want to be at Arsenal next season.

Reasons staying would be game time he gets at Arsenal.

Reasons for not staying are it's highly likely we won't be playing European football next season plus there is nothing apart from wishful thinking to argue Arsenal will be any different next season under Arteta than they were last season or are this season under Arteta.

I don't know the lad and maybe there are reasons I'm not aware of why he would want to be at Arsenal next season but there certainly isn't any obvious reason to think he would.

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28 Dec 2020 16:37:31
John Mcvicar wrote a book called the Rotten Orchard, inferring that some instructions are full of rotten apples.
That book keeps coming to mind when I think of our club right now.

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20 Dec 2020 19:31:30
Let's hope the two don't go hand in hand Fanatic mate, if we have to wait for Arsenal to become a top 4 team befor the virus disappears then we could definitely be in this for the long hual mate :-)

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20 Dec 2020 16:25:59
Hi Fanatic mate, yeah I think a lot of hope is pinned on the Oxford vaccine which can be stored and distributed more easily mate.

The thing I find crazy is why bring rules in and let people choose whether to follow them or not?
Imagine if some of us followed the law and drove on the left while others just did what they liked and varied it between right left and middle and depending what they felt like doing that day ?

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20 Dec 2020 10:43:33
My neighbours had a tier 4 party last night which started at bang on midnight and went on until 7am, lots of music lots of shouting and singing of " we got the power" lovely.
It's no mystery why we are in tier 4 or why the C.V. rate increased by 36% here last week, and with no one enforcing the rules we aren't likely to get out of tier 4 or even tougher restrictions until the spring when enough people have been vaccinated.

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16 Apr 2021 21:57:19
You are right mate teams are always looking or hoping for other teams to do them favours.
I'm a great believer that everyone ends up where they deserve to be over a season.
Ultimately we've only got control over what we do ourselves and that's where we should always be looking into my opinion.

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16 Apr 2021 19:43:36
Fair comment Epping mate, your spot on, it's only us and Everton who've never been relegated but we've been there longer than Everton so the longest serving top flight club.

I've seen every club bar Arsenal Everton and Liverpool play outside the top flight since I've been watching the game, still remember Denis Law relegating United with his back heeled goal for City and Spurs looking quite good in the second division 😂.

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16 Apr 2021 18:52:12
Yeah I agree Banbury mate, the potential los would outweigh the possible rewards.

Unfortunately Sharpie that impossibly can't be dismissed as unthinkable, far from it 😂.

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16 Apr 2021 17:23:52
I totally understand Ed077 mate, if it was United we were talking about I'd very happily gamble 1pt increase if guessed correct v demotion to the tier 11 of the football pyramid if guessed wrong, and I'd quite happily call tails if there was a double heeded coin available 🖒 no offence meant mate, I'm sure you understand 😎.

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{Ed077's Note - none taken. It must have been hard all those years seeing your team be good but someone else be a class above :-P}


 

 

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16 Apr 2021 15:40:17
Oh yeah thanks Ed077! I'm can be so thick it's unreal 😎

Same question except forget Newcastle and 17pts but instead think Fulham and 11pts behind with 7 games to go or 1pt ahead of City With 7 games to go.

Would you risk the gamble or stick as we are?
It's just meant to be a fun question not a referendum on Arteta or a opinion poll about whether it's ethical to mine the world's oceans 🤗.

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{Ed077's Note - I would be reluctant to take the risk with 17 points to make up in 7 games but with 12 points, I am definitely going to take it. And it does help that I don't trust Arsenal to sustain the 1 point lead to City anyways lol😂