Arsenal Banter

12 Sep 2024 12:57:57
Just had a look at the City page to see how the fans are reacting to the trial starting on Monday and was gobsmacked to see some of the changes go back to 2009 and right up to 2023.
I know Ed002 has said a lot of the charges are minor but I was still surprised they go back so far.
It's obviously not Arsrnal related but I reckon a lot of football fans will be interested.

12 Sep 2024 16:08:58
Aye Sallyjannine, a lot seem to be for failure to co-operate etc.

Couple of big ones in there, the manager remuneration one will be an interesting one - there was rumours years ago of Mancini being paid under the table from a second account lol that was never answered

Certainly a lot of fans interested, particularly to see, if the charges are proven of course, if harsh punishments will be handed out as has happened to other clubs.

12 Sep 2024 18:39:10
The money spent on lawyers defending against these charges, included in club spending.

12 Sep 2024 18:56:16
Hi Bill, the FA have to be consistent and treat City as he they did Everton and Forest, if they are proven to be guilty of being breaking the same rules personally I hope they haven't broken rule's worthy of a points deductions because I'd like us to out point City, Liverpool and everyone else come next May on a completely level playing field. Personally I'd hate us to win the league over City by 2 points if City had been deducted 3pts.

12 Sep 2024 21:47:58
Unlimited funds versus limited funds might prove difficult for the FA.

13 Sep 2024 09:38:58
Hi Sally, it seems that City are subject to the same version of justice as those accused of being witches during the dark ages. If they survive being dragged across the river they are obviously witches and should be burned at the stake and if they drowned in the river can they be deemed to be innocent.

Personally I think we'd be much better off concentrating on The Arsenal's brilliance than other people's potential downfall.

{Ed001's Note - most of those charges against City, the older ones, have already been proven in a court of law when UEFA charged them. The difference was, despite the outright lie City have said of being found innocent, they were time-barred from being punished for them. It is nothing like witches, they were given the chance to appeal repeatedly to the Court of Arbitration for Sport, which allowed most of the charges to become time-barred. If anything, they have been given the justice reserved only for the rich - do what you like, and even when caught red-handed you can just buy your way out of it.}

13 Sep 2024 11:19:27
Fair enough Ed001, the FA will do or not do whatever they choose and I'm happy to accept whatever decision they come up with for City.

Personally I don't care about football politics in theslightest, there are far bigger and more important injustices in the world to worry about, football is supposed to be a game played on the field that keeps fan's entertained and i'm only interested in Arsenal's continued re-emergence as a footballing force apposed to hoping for anyone else's downfall. The ethics of those who own football clubs and the human rights abuses they commit are a far bigger issue for me than any footballing rules they and plenty of others have broken over the years. I very much doubt there are too many clubs without a few skeletons in their wardrobes.

{Ed001's Note - if you don't care about the subject, why even bother to comment to tell us all how little you care? Just scroll past. You could have started a separate thread about the human rights abuses etc, rather than hijacking a thread about something else mate. This is why it is so difficult to have decent discussions online - people will hijack any thread with something they think is more important. Then conversations end up confused.

To be clear, I do agree with you to a degree. Things like human rights abuses are clearly more important, but they are separate issues and should be treated as such. You have to remember that what we are discussing here is still, despite only being about sports, are ethical and moral issues. They are about people who think it is ok to just ignore laws and rules if it benefits them. You tend to find in life that people who think like that, think like that about all things, not just sports. So there is a bigger issue involved as well. If you can't hold them accountable in here, where it is minor, you then make it more difficult for them to be held accountable anywhere else as well.}

13 Sep 2024 11:56:43
Just a quick comment but in my opinion City and human rights are linked via their owners as they can use City as a device to mask the injustices they are committing in their country. So while they seem like separate issues they're never completely separate.

13 Sep 2024 12:29:16
There is overlaps with the human rights issues, because WHY are the UAE, Qatar and Saudi spending billions sports washing?

{Ed001's Note - I think it is only right to point out that the UK and USA have just as bad a record on human rights.}

13 Sep 2024 12:40:45
For me 62 love and appreciation of football in general (not just our beloved Arsenal) depends very much on the honesty and integrity of all aspects of the game, whether on or off the pitch. Without this what's the point of sport?
i know rumours should be ignored until proven but it seems (please correct me If I'm wrong eds) that only Italy have a good record on doping punishments.

13 Sep 2024 12:48:08
Fair comment again Ed001 mate, i should have just scrolled past the comment and not got involved in something that isn't really an issue for me. Lesson learned for me, hopefully 😊,

{Ed001's Note - no it is fine mate. I was just saying, when you make comments like it doesn't interest you etc, it kind of takes away from any point you make.}

13 Sep 2024 13:00:46
The US has more prisoners per head of population than any other country in the world, man are in prison for minor driving offences like having a tail light out, victims are initially given a huge fine beyond their means to pay and given just 14 days to pay, then they are imprisoned for not paying the fine. Once in prison they are put to work for the state that imprisoned them for several years. If the US was anything other than a western country, this would quite rightly be called slavery.

13 Sep 2024 19:34:44
Throw the book at them and remove the undeserved trophies over the years. Don’t give them to another team - just remove from them and delete their success from the history books. Put them back to where they were before they purchased their success - do the same with Chelsea with their BS extended contracts to cheat the system.

12 Sep 2024 07:39:10
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12 Sep 2024 15:46:40
Thanks Ed, this was a good read. I agree on Arteta. What he has shown is he can take a team in disarray and, with backing and time, make them contenders again. While that's a great achievement too he still has to show he can take the final step and start winning trophies. Otherwise he will be remembered as a nearly man.

{Ed001's Note - it is the most difficult bit, that is why so many shining lights end up never actually making that step. There have been so many that people thought would be great but they couldn't quite make it. The problem he is, over almost all of those others that failed the step up, is that he has had huge backing, which means you can't just say he has done well with what he has had, like you can with Gasperini, for example.}

12 Sep 2024 19:16:12
If he doesn't win anything he won't have any excuses. That said i do appreciate the work he has done so far. What he has managed to do is unite the whole staff and build a good team. That's better than many others. If he were to leave for any reason the next guy would inherit a pretty decent team. So i would say he's done alright but not enough to get into the top spots.

12 Sep 2024 23:01:26
He's just signed a new contract till 2027 Iceman. I suppose the reality is though that City don't just win the league but other trophies too, they will be very hard to topple. Although Liverpool came close a couple of years ago.

13 Sep 2024 17:06:38
We need more of this ed! Loved this. Would be great if we can start getting the same for positions on the pitch such as best RB’s etc. Just an idea mate, cheers.

{Ed001's Note - I have done them in the past mate and will do again, just that you need to leave it a couple of years between each time or it is pretty much just a repeat of the previous one.}

10 Sep 2024 21:05:55
I'm enjoying watching this games player for england looks a decent midfielder.

10 Sep 2024 14:23:50
Just wanted to say how good of a job Per and Jack are doing brining the latest batch of Hale Enders through

The future is looking bright.

10 Sep 2024 08:33:05
Odegaard Injured, looks a bad one to me, I imagine will be out for at least 3-4 weeks.

How do we line up against spurs, and was this coming after last season having been lucky with minimal injuries.

Worried about this weeks coming fixtures now.

10 Sep 2024 10:16:50
I’m not bothered, we have a good enough squad to cope.

10 Sep 2024 10:47:37
Spurs and City, could be tricky!

{Ed014's Note - time for the boys to stand up and be counted Sally.

10 Sep 2024 11:20:18
Agreed Ed

Just put Jorginho and Partey in the middle and put that young lad ( can’t remember his name) in rm and they’ll do the business

We are sorted in defence and up front.

{Ed014's Note - agree mate and take it you mean Ethan Nwaneri.

Not sure if he will, but what a chance to shine that would be!

10 Sep 2024 11:58:17
I’m looking forward to Sunday I want to be in these tricky tests

How’s it going 14.

{Ed014's Note - me too mate and very well thanks.

How’s life with you and yours?

10 Sep 2024 13:18:54
Have to deal with it - just a nuisance it`s our three best midfielders out at once. I`d go Partey Timber and Havertz with Jesus if fit up front or if not Tross or Sterling false nining. Confident regardless FOYS.

10 Sep 2024 14:17:59
Yeah good mate

Can’t wait till Sunday.

10 Sep 2024 14:23:35
Yeah I like the sound of that Sussex mate.

10 Sep 2024 14:45:02
I'd prefer Jorginho, Timber and Havertz. I think Jorginho would be better at coaching a new-look midfield through the game.

10 Sep 2024 21:14:08
Shame we no longer have ESR in our numbers, personally I think he is the ideal Ode replacement when Ode is injured or in need of resting. Not a criticism of the ESR sale just expressing a personal opinion.

12 Sep 2024 03:48:35
Good point Sussex as Timber looks a very athletic player. Could see him covering well if we put Zinchenko in at LB. Would have loved to see Calafiori get a start but he's injured too!

Tross up front as the false 9 and Havertz at no.10 would be my preference, we're at home and I think Jorginho and Partey together would be too conservative.

10 Sep 2024 08:12:19
Don't you just hate international break.

07 Sep 2024 07:39:11
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06 Sep 2024 08:29:36
I think there's a couple of problems with Kieran tierney

1-obviously his injury record

2- his style of play

Does anyone think a year in Spain has improved his technical ability and is more suited to the style of play which Mikel wants to play.

{Ed014's Note - Mikel has included him in his Champions League squad.

I’ve not seen anything of him since he left so no idea if he’s progressed at all mate.

06 Sep 2024 08:42:54
I we that Ed, has to be a strong reason for his inclusion

Very interesting.

{Ed014's Note - yes mate, wasn’t expecting it but think he’s back from injury after the international break.

06 Sep 2024 12:02:19
I`m worried we don`t have enough cover at left back! COYG.

06 Sep 2024 12:27:39
I’m more worried about LM Sussex

Let’s just ride these few injuries and we’ll be grand.

{Ed014's Note - we have Calafiori, Kiwior, Zinchenko, Timber, Tomiyasu and Tierney who can play left back so SUSSEX must be taking the mick! 😂

06 Sep 2024 15:15:53
I was Ed014, it’s how Chelski must feel in all positions. It’s the midfield that is strong ordinarily but a concern for Spuds.

If Odegaard and Partey fit we start with them plus one more maybe Zinchenko or Jorginho. Maybe with a pretty much full strength squad we have a go this time at C£ty. Always remember one win one loss better than two draws.

Also is the Belgian manager okay - they must have some squad to leave Leo out.

Agreed Mal and the C£ty game isn`t a title decider. Hope your much better half doing good Ed014 COYG

On Partey I know some don`t rate him at all and he can look he`s lazy but I rate him as a player and he can pick a pass. Not our best but certainly not thieving a living. Stays fit a great option.

{Ed014's Note - haha I thought so!

That’s why I think maybe Timber might slot into midfield and Calafiori into LB. I think we’ll have enough what ever we do.

Be interesting to see what impact if any that Sterling may make.

Has Trossard been left out of their squad?

She’s doing fine thanks mate, taking her off to Prague later in the month for her birthday.

I’ve always liked Partey and think he takes a few games to get up to speed.

He played 90 for Ghana yesterday so getting fitter all the time.

06 Sep 2024 16:54:16
Tross left out - check out the arsenal.com website footage of training - Tross and Sterling looking sharp in particular. Timber a good shout in midfield I`m getting more confident by the hour! Enjoy Prague COYG.

{Ed014's Note - that’s an odd one and I always looks at the training vids and Sterling was looking very sharp. It didn’t occur to me that Trossard being there has meant he was left out of the squad.

Tedesco as well and surprised he doesn’t like Trossard.

And thanks mate, hopefully we will.

05 Sep 2024 19:16:18
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05 Sep 2024 09:57:38
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05 Sep 2024 15:08:59
Ahh the old ones are the best.

05 Sep 2024 20:47:22
Nice of you to say that Mark, us oldies really appreciate it 👍.

06 Sep 2024 07:58:41
Saying that to the wife the other night John that us oldies are the best
She has spoken to me since🤷‍♂️💔.

06 Sep 2024 08:32:43
Your lucky Billy my old girl never stops talking or should I say moaning.

06 Sep 2024 17:50:58
Hi Bill, I told my missus last week that if she ever leaves me I'm going with her.

04 Sep 2024 07:39:09
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