Arsenal Banter

09 Dec 2019 07:39:02
{Ed's Note - Ed001 has posted a new article entitled, Review Of The Day 8th December 2019

08 Dec 2019 19:58:30
Have been thinking about the whole arsenal DNA thing. I'm not even sure if having managers, coaches or technical directors who have played for arsenal makes much difference.

If you walk into a new job and all of your colleagues have had more success, better times at other companies and had very few highs at the current one they are hardly going to inspire you or each other to fight and put in the hard work required.

Imagine walking into a dressing room with Adams, keown, Dixon, wrighty or even Campbell, Vieira, Petit etc to walking into one with luiz, sokratis, aubameyang and lacazette.

I'm not saying these players haven't got something to offer but they are hardly going to make you live and die for the badge if they have done more and succeeded more for others.

The importance of keeping players like wilshere, Cazorla, Ramsey and even iwobi wouldn't compare to those previously stated but I'm sure would help more.

08 Dec 2019 21:31:02
When a young Jose Mourinho got the Porto job it was mid season and they were in a poor postion and struggling, he told all the players that anyone who was unhappy could leave in the summer but also told all the players those who chose to stay that he and them would be champions the following season, some left some stayed and the rest is history.

We need someone to come in and do a similar thing with us because at the moment with or without Mustafi we struggle with or without Xhaka we struggle it seems to make no difference what 11 or what formation we play nothing is any better or any worse.

We need someone who can come in and sort us out whatever the real problems are so we can rebuild on solid foundations.

Oh just for the record I was a huge fan of the Jose Mourinho who left Chelsea and England first time round Just not a fan of the one who returned after his time at Inter and Real.

09 Dec 2019 02:45:49
It is of little relevance whether the next manager has Arsenal in his DNA. We must simply hire the best possible manager available. In the situation we are in I believe this has to be an experienced, successful manager, who the players respect and look up to.
These could include, subject to availability and other determining factors : Ancelloti, Benitez and Allegri. There is an argument to appoint a manger who has experience and potential: Pochettino and Nuno (Wolves) come to mind.
Candidates with zero management experience and ex-players will be an enormous risk: Arteta, Freddie and Vieira come to mind.
Let’s hope the correct appointment is made and swiftly, failing which we could easily get drawn into a damaging relegation battle.

08 Dec 2019 18:19:36
Seen reports kovac wants the mangers job is he any good.

{Ed002's Note - Makes zero sense.}

08 Dec 2019 20:08:42
Him to us Ed no goid then ed.

08 Dec 2019 20:37:23
Meant good.

09 Dec 2019 02:48:31
God no!
The more I think about it, in our current situation we need an experienced manager such as Ancelotti or Benitez. Pochettino did a tremendous job at the toot and would be another option. None of these managers appear to be easy to appoint and wil not come cheap.

08 Dec 2019 16:02:44
What really grips my stick 🙄 is a few weeks ago most of the members in here were laughing at Utd and spurs, when personally I think we much much worse off than them, I can never in a million years see us beating city at home never mind away, I’ve been lucky enough to have won 2 tickets for next weekends game it’ll be my first time at the emirates, I’m praying we win but can’t see past a city mauling.

08 Dec 2019 16:16:49
Try and enjoy the occasion no matter what mate, there will be other seasons, other managers and other players but there will never ever be another first visit to the Emirates mate.
Have a brilliant day mate, enjoy the stadium enjoy London enjoy everything that is humanly possible to enjoy and don't let the bad bits take the shine off what will be a very very special day for you personally.

08 Dec 2019 16:28:13
Hope you have a great day out at the Emirates - make a day of it if possible and just enjoy yourself. Like 62 says - soak it in and enjoy the experience even if the game doesn’t go our way. Enjoy.

08 Dec 2019 18:45:15
I will say it as it is and not the cliche crap, if we get hammered you won’t enjoy it mate, how can a true Arsenal fan enjoy a defeat of any magnitude . If we win a great day for you

Might be worth visiting the stadium when there isn’t a game mate . and your less tense.

08 Dec 2019 18:52:11
Second what Gunner said. Sing loud, enjoy and you never know.

08 Dec 2019 19:33:32
Thanks all.

08 Dec 2019 19:41:02
My first visit to the emirate was watching international match brazil vs italt it was great experience, but my second was a carling cup match against man city, we lost 0-1 I think, but nonetheless of the lose ut was an awesome day watching my team playing live even more enjoyable than brazil italy game.
However, I think we will turn up against city.

{Ed047's Note - I think we have to turn up Moe or the club will get fined if the they don’t fulfil the fixture! 😉

08 Dec 2019 19:49:05
:-) 047.

08 Dec 2019 23:46:09
Oh sorry ed mate, I meant to say we will be turned over hahahahah.

08 Dec 2019 15:51:53
Hello Ed's, any truth arsenal number one target for manager is Patrick Vieira?

{Ed002's Note - Obviously not as they have already approached others.}

08 Dec 2019 16:52:00
Other than Marcelino who have arsenal approached Ed? I couldn’t seem to find them when I searched your name in.

{Ed002's Note - They had a third party approach someone who already has a job as well.}

08 Dec 2019 18:11:24
Would u say who?

{Ed002's Note - He has a job already so it is unimportant.}

08 Dec 2019 15:05:32
As much as I loved him as a player, I have no desire to see Vieira installed as manager. If he had never played for us, nobody would even consider him as an option. We need experience and skill to make the adjustments necessary to take us forward in the medium term.

The pool of who might be in the frame seems to be diminishing by the day. If the right person cannot be found, we may as well leave Freddie in place until we reorganise ourselves at the end of the season. Much better to do that than bring some half a$sed choice for 18 months.

So disillusioned.

08 Dec 2019 15:17:21
Good post, this ex player thing doesn’t do it for me . The problem I have with Freddie is that after all the football he’s watched this season he still doesn’t know our best XI.

08 Dec 2019 16:00:03
If as I expect we lose tomorrow night we obviously have to think again and think quickly about how we survive this season as a premier league club Urban mate.
For various reasons there doesn't seem to be a stand out candidate we can go for with any real enthusiasm of attracting.
Things change quickly in football and more than anything we need to buy ourselves some time if we can, but how we do that I'm not sure especially since Fredie is struggling much much more than I ever dreamed he might.
Ideally my lack of confidence in the team will be proved wrong and we will win tomorrow night, can't see it but I hope to be wrong for sure.

08 Dec 2019 16:07:18
One of the problems we have this season is if Freddie is in until the end of the season, will the board give him money to spend on a player (s) that a new manager might not want.
Yet with so many of our players not showing what’s required a freshen up is needed. (CB and CM) .

The only way to save our season now is to invest in January (even from sales) . In the hope we can in the Europa. Not very likely.

08 Dec 2019 16:32:40
I’m sure the new manager will want a centrehalf at a minimum so signing one in Jan wouldn’t hurt. I would sell Papa, Luiz, Granit and possibly Torreira in Jan just in case the new boss is even tempted to play any of them. Best remove temptation. 😂😂.

{Ed047's Note - can I ask what you’re not liking about Torriera SY?

08 Dec 2019 18:42:50
Torriera is a keeper at the moment for me unless he clearly wants to go. It would be desirable in the long term to partner him with a Cazorla type player. I have wondered if Ozil could play that deeper kind of role. Don't all scream at me at once. :)

08 Dec 2019 18:43:42
I suspect all our respective views on the potential new manager might depend on whether we are scrubbing this season as a lost cause or not.

08 Dec 2019 19:18:55
47 - I just do t think he has the stature and power I want in CDM. When I think of Oaddy, Petit, silva etc they were strong and disciplined but mainly tough. Torreira seems to run around a lot and fall over a lot - he’s not going to help us defend corners or be imposing on the pitch. He gave us energy and I remember Merson saying we over egged how good he was and he looked better because we were poor and he wouldn’t get into another top 4 midfield. I agree with him there and I would rather have a Nzonzi or Doucoure type CDM personally. I like Santi but Torreira isn’t a Santi.
That busy “wasp” of a midfielder isn’t my bag to be honest and I think he get pulled out of position and bullied too easily.

08 Dec 2019 19:50:33
We were so happy with torriera we he started but until mr dicky smashed his confidence like many others in the team. I still think he can do well and be useful for us.

09 Dec 2019 05:29:38
Ed47 / did my reply make any sense?

{Ed047's Note - yes totally SY, I didn’t post your initial reply so wasn’t able to answer.

My thoughts are the same, after initially thinking that he really looked the part he’s gone backwards dramatically for me. The constant falling over or being brushed off the ball isn’t great either.

My only hope being that, he was doing a great job in Italy and does one for his country, so maybe it’s just because we’ve become so unorganised that he’s trying to cover too much.

Let’s not forget that Kante is no giant either.

In essence I’ve not given up on him totally as would like to see him under a better coach.

08 Dec 2019 07:39:02
{Ed's Note - Ed001 has posted a new article entitled, Review Of The Day 8th December 2019

07 Dec 2019 18:12:01
Spuds finding some form, Man U 2 up away at M City we need to do something tomorrow and settling for a point isn’t it . I’d be amazed if we win tomorrow but I fear we will drop some places again, with M City at home and then Everton away before we know it we could be hovering just above the bottom 3.

{Ed047's Note - and the club have just revealed a £20+ million loss for the year so it’s all looking good!

07 Dec 2019 18:16:47
It makes you wonder how on earth can it go so wrong? Were we being greedy by moving to a bigger stadium knowing our funds for players were at rock bottom?

07 Dec 2019 18:20:20
Monday night bud!

07 Dec 2019 18:36:25
Yep sorry getting so excited waiting for it - MNF of course.