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01 Jul 2019 14:46:30
Hi Ed's, have used the search function and not been able to find anything on Yacine Brahimi. What do you make of the latest rumours about us opening negotiations? Being a free agent it seems a good deal for us (depending on his wage demands) , and at 29 gives us a couple years to progress some of the youngsters, Nelson, Smith-Rowe, Saka etc. and to focus our limited funds on the defensive problems.
{Ed002's Note - Brahimi is a LW and will not resolve Arsenal's need. I don't know what the reports say although folks seem to think Arsenal are talking directly with the player - which I very much doubt as he is in Africa.}
1.) 01 Jul 2019 16:32:42
Thanks Ed, I have been watching the AFCON tournament on EuroSport and it’s interesting to see that he has only featured for 15 minutes over 2 games so far, for a player who was highly rated across Europe only a couple years ago, he has now lost his starting berth to Belaili (in all respect to him and the league) who plays at the Tunisian top flight level.
2.) 01 Jul 2019 17:48:12
Ed sky sports news are reporting that we have made an offer to palace for Zaha. I know what you have previously said about him but do you now have updated information or expectations that we will sign him?
{Ed002's Note - Arsenal can sign him if they make an appropriate offer and try not to make themselves anymore of a laughing stock.}
3.) 01 Jul 2019 19:24:00
I don’t get why we do this Ed. Do you expect a further bid from arsenal? I know that we are struggling to sell players.
{Ed002's Note - I really can only guess at such matters.}
4.) 01 Jul 2019 21:11:50
I used to always think when Arsene and George did bid 50% of a players value it was so they could say we tried to spend but didn't get the players we wanted as an excuse for not spending at all, I'm lost to our reasoning now days but whatever it is it is embarrassing.
It's like putting in a bid for a mansion based on the money you hope to receive from the sale of your 2 berth caravan.
5.) 01 Jul 2019 21:45:28
We’ve always been cheap - bid low, sign at end of window to save wages, sell first, wait a season to save a pound. manager changes but culture doesn’t.
6.) 01 Jul 2019 22:16:04
Very very true SY, actually Bruce Rioch was the only manager I can remember breaking that mould, he signed our biggest and best singing ever in Bergkamp plus David platt who was a big name at the time and didn't he sign Overmars too?
In his short tender Bruce did push the boat our like no one else has.
7.) 02 Jul 2019 21:51:20
Apparently we also made a £50m offer for Harry Maguire as well. We're a laughing stock.
8.) 02 Jul 2019 22:28:21
I think the £40M bid for Zaha was shrewd. Despite CP's £80M-£100M valuation on the player, his actual value is probably more around that £40-£55M valuation.
He's an Arsenal fan, so maybe they are hoping the player now hands in a transfer request and tries to force the move.
11 Jul 2014 07:18:29
Hey Eds. with Sanchez taking the number 17 shirt does this mean that Nacho Monreal could be on his way out?or will he just be re-assigned a new number?
{Ed025's Note - just a new number i expect chippy..
1.) Monreal has moved to 18
2.) It looks like Monreal is switching to 18.
3.) Thanks guys. I assumed as much, was just something that made me think this morning.
Super Sanchez! COYG!
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09 Sep 2018 12:04:28
I saw a post earlier regarding Wilf Zaha, and the winger position. and it got me thinking about other possibilities. I'd like to see us take a gamble on Demarai Gray, a young English player to help with homegrown quota's in Europe too and has a lot of potential imo. His direct dribbling ability at pace is what we need outwide, a step up to a bigger club, training with better players and better coaches to help polish the rough edges of final product, and we could have a diamond. problem same as Zaha being would it cost too much for our valuations?
1.) 09 Sep 2018 16:43:25
I think it's a huge problem that the fees asked for home grown players especially English home grown players are completely disproportionate compared to what you can get for your money abroad.
Harry Maguire was quoted at 70 million in the summer on the basis of a decent season and world cup, now if he'd played in France last season and was representing France in the world cup instead of England his transfer fee would be almost halfed at around 40 million.
This over valuation hurts English players getting on and of course England football team as fewer players get the chance at top level.
When Arsene first came to Arsenal he wanted young pretty raw Darren Edie but Norwich was asking 7 millions which was huge back then for a kid with potential so Arsene switched his attention to the well established Mark Overmars for exactly the same fee.
It's a problem because of the selling clubs want as much as they can get for their players from bigger clubs but it's a catch 22 situation that needs the fa clubs and players union to get together to sort out a way of making it more favorable go English without the inflated price tag for the privilege.
2.) 09 Sep 2018 20:34:24
I think we witnessed last night how far young English players are behind our fellow europeans and the talented south American players. Technically, our players are light years behind. Its about time the price of English talent was brought in to line. English players are way way inflated. Totally disproportionate to reality.
3.) 10 Sep 2018 09:26:59
An open and honest debate is needed to find a solution to promote our own players in a way that makes them a good option rather than an expensive necessity.
The home grown rule hasn't worked despite being well intended if anything it's made things worse.
If you have an honest debate that takes into consideration all parties then you have to see the selling clubs point of view too.
James Maddison was Norwich prize asset so obviously they wanted the most they could get for him but 24 million for a lad with championship experience only is very expensive compared to Torreira who has played in a world cup for 26 million.
Possibly a lower initial fee that increases with each premier league start would be a way of getting bigger clubs to take a punt on English players where someone like James Maddison costs only 10 millions initially but could end up being worth 70 or 80 millions to the likes of Norwich eventually but only if really successful at his new club.
Lower the risk for the buying club but increase the rewards for the selling clubs but only for the players that deliver at a higher level on regular basis and possibly set the players pay packet on a similar rising scale too where 100k plus a week is well possible but only after 70 premier league starts within a 2 to 3 window, would that help?
Can't help but think Jack and Theo might have been helped by something like that where they had to deliver first to receive the goodies apposed to having them guaranteed at a very early age.
4.) 10 Sep 2018 13:58:38
Its hard because we don't know football employment law. But the term home grown, doesn't really mean home grown. For me all prem league teams should have to play one player who has been at the club from 16 years old and under 21 and the same for one player under 23, not necessarily the same players but british. The player also, should not have been involved in a club transfer. If the player had been transfered, he would not be considered home grown. Outside the prem, the rule would not apply. Not ground braking but a start. That would mean, plenty of british young players would be playing premier league football.
5.) 10 Sep 2018 15:32:17
The problem is Steve and to be fair to Arsene he warned the fa of this when they first introduced the home grown rule, forcing clubs to play British doesn't raise the standard of the player only make the best of the compulsory bunch extremely expensive.
The talent is there I'm just not sure the hunger is once they get a decent contract in the reserves.
Start them league one and two wages with increases for every 10 premier league starts only reaching the 500k plus bracket after 100 starts or something along those lines.
At 24/ 25 with a good apprenticeship behind then they are far better able to deal with fantastic wages than at 18 or 19 when it's far too much far too soon for most to possible cope with.
6.) 10 Sep 2018 16:18:15
My point gunner is, all prem clubs would have to play two "home grown" players every game and if a british player is transfered, he then would not be home grown, so he would be equal in those terms as a foreign player. So his price has no reason to be inflated. It may then bring the price into line and make sure proper home grown players play every week in the prem. If they are then transfered, their price would then reflect their ability, in relation to other players.
7.) 10 Sep 2018 20:20:04
I'm not really a fan of positive discrimination in any way but in stead I prefer everyone to have fair and equal opportunities to achieve all they wish to achieve
Obviously international football is different because each nation has to pick from who is eligible to play for them so it's up to each country to do all it can to encourage it's players to be the best they can be.
Forcing clubs to pick so many English players hasn't and won't increase their ability but somehow we have to make it favorable rather than compulsory for clubs to produce players for the national team.
Maybe 5 bonus points for each of the top 10 and bottom 10 clubs that play the most English players for 70 plus minutes the most times that season.
It could take mean the difference between champions league or Europa league football and relegation and survival but also leave clubs with a choice.
8.) 11 Sep 2018 13:40:27
Perhaps another option is to get away from the whole limited club option if you want to play for England. Players seem to feel the need to play at the big clubs where, as we can see, they won't get a regular game. Perhaps if young english players saw more of their type being picked for England, despite the fact they they play for clubs such as Burnley, Southampton and even Norwich, maybe they would be encouraged to stay and grow within their own club rather than jumping straight to a big club too early.
Also though, i think another main issue that needs addressing is the whole way we go about coaching in schools and at youth level in this country. I pick on coaching as I see absolutely no reason why english youngsters, on average, should be any better or worse than their European counterparts, and yet what we continue to see is that they are worse, if based on looking at their representation in Premier League clubs first XI's. This is already different to other sports, where England either matches other countries (cricket, Rugby etc) , or punches well above its weight (athletics) . Therefore are they being coached correctly from an early age? I ask this as a friend told me a story about a friend of his, who has his coaching badges, and who trains/ coaches youth football in England. Evidently he got invited to go over to Holland to see/ participate coaching at a similar level and age. As the game got underway he started running up and down the touchline barking orders and advising technique to individuals. At the end of the match the Dutch coaches were evidently horrified at his attempt at coaching. They were completely baffled why a coach would still be micro managing children of this age how to control, pass and play, something the coaches said they had learned to do many, many years previous, and even if not, its a bit late now. They saw their coaching role so differently, more as supplying overall advice, for example, if the winger struggled to beat the full back, they would talk and work with that winger with techniques and suggestions on how he could change that situation, from a physical positional awareness and from a psychology perspective. This seems to be at a completely different level to us, and therefore I wonder if this needs to be addressed in this country?
06 Jul 2017 22:00:02
Get on you tube and type in "Alexandre Lacazette song" it's much better than boomxhakalaca.
12 Jun 2017 11:21:56
Was nice to see the Ox, Ramsey, Xhaka, Mustafi, and Giroud all score over the weekend. well done boys!
04 Jun 2017 00:59:58
Can't believe Wenger didn't splash the cash and spend £50m on John Stones, and wasted £2m on Rob Holding from the championship bargain basement. £35m for Mustafi, £35m for Xhaka. what the hell? Idrissa Gueye was available for £7m and Williams for £10m. get Koeman in now! Wenger's lost it. Giroud's pony he's only scored 98 goals in 159 games, never worth £13m! Can't believe we only won 3 trophies in 4 seasons (5 if you count community shields) seriously!?!? . NO CHAMPIONS LEAGUE footy for the first time in 17 years how dare football treat us like this! We've never won it, and been in the final once there is no way we shouldn't be competing in it! Come on Gooners seriously let's just let all this nonsense go. one thing as a club we like to pride ourself on is being a classy club, so let's show the class we have and get behind our great club, AND great manager. Let's bounce back as a united force and stop bickering between ourselves looking like spoiled kids and put the efforts towards shutting all the others up! COME ON YOU GOONERS!
1.) 04 Jun 2017 08:13:44
Cant believe he signed perez over gabriel jesus. I hope we push on I really do. But if you are offering me two fa cups over the next two years and that's it il be disappointed. Wasnt enough for manu and imo after all these attempts wenger should of lifted it and said bye. But let's see I guess.
Holding for me looks great in a three not seen much in 4 at the back apart from liverpool game. I do like him tho.
2.) 04 Jun 2017 08:55:52
I agree with you POBC, after yesterdays final and the quality on display from both sides, and for those who did not see it allegri bottled it with his half time no change or the fact that they came out worse.
there is a lot going wrong at arsenal but we need to get behind the team and manager, i'm not going to debate anymore than that.
what has hit home is even if we manage to land mbappe and keep our stars we still don't have 11 players on the pitch of madrid or juventus stature, besides sanchez and maybe ozil which other player would have been in either of those two teams?
3.) 04 Jun 2017 10:16:30
Lakerville,
Quick question, how many of Chelsea, City, Liverpool, Spurs or United players would you put in either of those two teams?
4.) 04 Jun 2017 10:29:21
Derby mate I'd be over the moon with two cups over the next two seasons of any sort ( ok not the charity Shield or Emirates trophy or whatever is called we host :-)
But either. League cup Europa league or FA cup would do me mate.
I'm not placing to much importance on the league for a bit because that only leads to disappointment and fault finding.
I have for years banged on about how I wanted us to challenge for not necessarily win but seriously challenge for the premier league and how we need to break the 80 points barrier to be contenders and where has that got me? Absolutely no where.
All it's done is stopped me enjoying other success as much as I could have because I've been so disappointed by our lack of competitiveness and appetit in the league, no more of that horribleness for me thank you :-)
If we finish 4th hip hip hooray
If we finish 7th I'm cool with that too
Even if we ended up out of Europe altogether by coming 8th or something silly ( I don't think it will happen but if it did) so what it would just mean less games the next season and a chance to concentrate on domestic competitions.
I really hope I'm wrong but I just can't see how we are going to go from the spending all of the last 10 seasons of apart from 1 finishing double figure points behind that seasons Champions to suddenly becoming a real force in one summer where the only major change is likely to be losing Sanchez and possibly Ozil too.
I'm not trying to be negative just honest with myself in a positive way as I possibly can without ignoring what I truly think.
With Arsenes new contract I have changed my outlook and rather than concentrate on what we can't or don't do I'm going to concentrate on enjoying all we can and do achieve much much more than I have allowed myself to in the past 3/ 4 seasons.
So we are highly unlikely to win the title and most probably even seriously contend for it next season? So what, 18 other clubs won't win it either most of which won't challenge either.
Newcastle and Everton are both very big clubs too and they won't be crying over finishing 10+ plus points behind the champions and winning a trophy and neither will I in future either.
Acceptance of what is rather than moaning about how it should be is my motto for the 2017/ 18 season.
We all have our own thoughts views and opinions and anyone who thinks we will the title next season because where Arsenal and they think that every season, good for you i hope your right this time round :-) I'm not prepared to start wearing those rose tinted specs just yet but for me at least it's time to shop crying over what we don't do and just enjoy the best bits again.
5.) 04 Jun 2017 12:16:43
stoner the answer would be 2-3 players but most of our players would not make their bench while chelsea, spurs, city would.
6.) 04 Jun 2017 14:45:12
Good post gunner. Horses for courses I guess. I just don't do anything to not win and I see the potential in the club we support. Imo if wenger can't deliver I title he should of stepped aside. But let's see what he does this summer etc. If we finish 7 there will be full on riots unless its with a europa league win.
7.) 04 Jun 2017 16:41:40
Derby I can't see the title going anywhere but to Chelsea City Utd or Spurs so I'd also expect those clubs to make up the top 4 next May.
Having said that 1 or may even 2 of them might fail to improve as much as I expect over the summer or just fail to deliver as I think they will which would leave the door open for us Liverpool and or Everton to gate crash top 4.
It's difficult to see all 4 coming up short at the same time but it did happen 2 seasons back when red hot favorites City and Chelsea both failed to show up allowing Leicester surprise the footballing world showing you can never absolutely way no way never to us or anyone else finishing above the 4 I expect to fight it out.
We could make some fantastic signings who all gel immediately taking us from also rans into contenders or we might not make any further signings at all but the current players and team have a totally mentality switch and fight like tigers for every ball in every game next season, ok I'm not expecting either to happen but if it does I won't be complaining that's for sure, mind you where ever we finish I won't be complaining :-) Especially if we get any of the cups.
8.) 04 Jun 2017 17:51:54
I just don't see how we have had 13 years going at the title and we now are not nearer to it. Baffles me and that I can't accept.
9.) 04 Jun 2017 18:08:29
I see your point Derby and it is disappointing but it is what it is and we can't change it mate.
The only thing we have any control over is ourselves mate and how we let it affect us.
If things don't change under Arsene (and it's not impossible even if unlikely) change will come at some point that's for sure be in 2 years or 10 years it will happen and until things turn out differently to how they have done for the last decade or so we can either laugh or cry about it, personally I'm sick of crying about it so I'm going to give the laughing thing another bash :-)
10.) 04 Jun 2017 19:04:37
Thanks Laker,
Guess you are probably right mate.
11.) 04 Jun 2017 19:38:13
62 tbh it used to annoy me a lot but now I just stay away or don't watch. If i'm in il switch on but don't cancel plans for it. The love will come back one day i'm sure. Maybe mbappe is that love lol.
12.) 04 Jun 2017 19:52:51
But Derby don't they say if you can't support me at my worst you don't deserve me at my best! Bit fair weather for me COYG.
13.) 04 Jun 2017 21:02:34
That's a bit harsh Suseex mate you can't blame people for not being as excited about the team as they used to be mate, is it the fans fualt or the clubs fault people are less passionate than they were?
You shouldn't rely ideffinately on people sticking around through loyalty and habit sooner or later you have to give them something to get excited about.
The Emirates can't hasn't and won't continued to attract a full house while not showing the ambition that gets people excited.
14.) 04 Jun 2017 23:37:50
Guess we will have to agree to disagree 62. Just can't imagine not trying to watch a game but then I was on the north bank watching in 70s and 80s so feeling spoiled these last 13 years :) Just a shame if you can't get excited as we have won 3 fa cups but all different I guess which is what the site is all about COYG.
15.) 05 Jun 2017 00:50:56
Sussex I play a lot of ball so rather play than watch as when i'm old I can watch all the games I want. Also uncle duties come into play etc. At the start missing games was horrible but you soon realise it isn't everything. But I hear your argument.
16.) 05 Jun 2017 10:28:52
Derby, you don't have to explain yourself. I don't like to see people using terms like fair weather or die hard or whatever, its all bow locks to me. We are all fans and some are more able to watch than others.
20 Nov 2016 03:27:34
Hello my gooners. just wanted to drop in and say a few views.
As frustrating as perfomances like today can be to us all, I can't be the only one that is appreciating the balance between the resiliance and ruthlesness we have shown so far this season, 18 games in all competitions.12 wins,5 draws, and 1 loss and only 15 goals conceded, add the fact that we have scored 43 goals (in any business that's very efficient work) .
In these 18 games let's be honest aswell we haven't hit top form in at least 40% of them, yet we are still producing positive results (Leicester, Southampton, Burnley, Swansea, PSG, Utd, That lot, Ludogorets) Now i'm not saying this squad is anywhere near the invincibles. but this is the first sign in a long, long time we are showing that squads mentality (lets not forget the invincibles luck at times such as rvn missed penalty, or the scraped draw away to portsmouth when Yakubu missed a sitter for 2-0 after the league was won, even the home against portsmouth with that penalty or liverpool at the end of our "famous week", )
Basically i'm sorry for the essay but its bloody good seeing the whole picture come together once again at Arsenal! Get Bellerin, Welbeck, Cazorla all back into action and let's make a new chapter boys!
1.) 20 Nov 2016 07:53:53
True, we can't complain we are one of very few teams that are still in with a chance in the Pl, CL and the League Cup. The sole match that we lost was played without Mustafi, Koscielny, Gabriel, Mertesacker, Welbeck, Ozil and Giroud. We even had to play our 4th and 5th choice centre backs, Holding and Chambers.
We now need to push on, with winning performances In the run up to the new year. Finishing top of our CL group would be a huge boost to the teams confidence.
I would like to see us consider trying to sign a LB and a midfield player to cover for Cazorla who looks no closer to coming back from injury.
Against PSG, I would like to see us play Cech (which won't happen) , Gibbs, Xhaka, Ox, Iwobi and Giroud. We need to rotate players during the current heavy schedule or more injuries may occur.
2.) 20 Nov 2016 10:09:31
Results are everything when it comes to competing for titles and in the main our results are good.
I personally have no interest in listening to anymore excuses as to why it's impossible for little old Arsenal to challenge for the title but not for Leicester and Liverpool to do so.
Aaron Ramsey playing out wide in all but Arsene's view is a mistake but if we keep getting the results that keep us well in the race what does it matter what Arsene does or who he picks to play where.
Personally I think there are lots of weaknesses that need addressing but all the time we keep getting away with them, good for Arsene.
Last minute penalty against Southampton at home, last seconds handball by Kos against Burnley, both Middlesbrough and Swansea created as many genuine goal scoring opportunies as us at the Emerirates, has the rub of the green been with us? I'd say so but its irrelevant because we are in a good position to kick on from.
If Arsene is to be treated the same as all other managers and be assest by his results it has to be a 9/ 10 so far for the season, which if he maintains then he should be offered a new contract in May but by the same token should things go a little less well and by the time may gets here we are in a yet another top 4 battle then the final weekend of the season has to be the biggest and the absolute best farewell party football has ever seen civic reception an all.
So far so good this season Le prof.
3.) 20 Nov 2016 10:47:43
You have my vote 62.
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01 Jul 2019 16:32:42
Thanks Ed, I have been watching the AFCON tournament on EuroSport and it’s interesting to see that he has only featured for 15 minutes over 2 games so far, for a player who was highly rated across Europe only a couple years ago, he has now lost his starting berth to Belaili (in all respect to him and the league) who plays at the Tunisian top flight level.
06 Jul 2017 21:14:23
The last 3 PFA player of the year's came from Ligue 1 (Kante/ Hazard/ Mahrez) also Henry/ Trezeguet/ Drogba/ Benzema/ Anelka/ Aubameyang just to name a few also Ligue 1. Really fed up of this "but it's only ligue 1" rubbish. the guy is French he grew up in France so guess what. yes you got it he will start his career in Ligue 1. The loyalty he has shown to Lyon over the past 2 seasons is a sign of the charachter we are getting on top of the goals, let the man play at least a season or even a game at that matter and judge him by what he does in an Arsenal shirt. I am very confident this is going to be a massive massive signing for us.
04 Jun 2017 00:27:14
Let's also not forget the equalising goal in the final moments against Wigan in the semi-final, that led us to our first trophy in 9 years.
Thanks guys. I assumed as much, was just something that made me think this morning.
Super Sanchez! COYG!
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30 Jun 2019 11:31:24
Our away form has been awful the past couple of years but you can’t just single out Mustafi and Xhaka, it’s a team effort . Aubameyang and Lacazette were signed in this time period aswell, is it their fault also? or is it just a coincidence lol.
We have been awful away from home simply because we have been poor as a team. Not because we signed Mustafi and Xhaka lol.
29 Apr 2019 18:36:23
We can’t look back and say what if, we can only look forward to what we can actually do now. Also you can’t be biased when looking back. we can also say what if West Ham took points off us at the emirates when they should have, or what if Deeney never got sent off and AMN never made that last ditch tackle to save the open goal. This is football don’t beat yourself up over the past.
Nobody had us in the mix for top 4 at this stage of the season, we have 2 viable routes into the champions league with 4 games hopefully 5 games of the season left to play. We cannot blame anyone for this season, we all knew it was a transitional period that was going to be made harder with the lack of CL football and funding. if we manage to get a CL spot then there is nobody to blame what so ever as we would have over achieved, which I feel we have done even if we fall now at this last hurdle.
14 Apr 2019 09:15:47
The schedule shouldn’t be a problem or an excuse, we have had weeks to prepare for it. it’s not like they changed it last minute. Also it’s no difference than if we were back in the champions league and had to play Sunday then Wednesday. let’s just get on with it and hope momentum carries us through. COYG.
15 Mar 2019 07:24:05
The most disgusting thing you have ever seen on a football pitch!? so fans running on and attacking players like we seen the last few days isn’t as bad as Auba celebrating with a mask? come on fella really!? you using the C word infront of your kids was worse . just enjoy the game.
04 Sep 2017 18:18:41
Maybe you could ask your Step-Dad to be our new manager ;)