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16 May 2018 14:51:00
I can understand there being some 'debate' here about Arteta's imminent appointment, if, indeed that proves to be the case, but the outright dismissal of it seems peculiar. Had there been this forum in 1996 would we have all said the same about the appointment of Wenger? Would Barcelona fans have whinged about the appointment of the untested Guardiola? Zidane had no managerial experience before he took Real Madrid to the verge of three Champions League wins on the bounce.

Arteta isn't necessarily my own choice - I'd go for Jokanovic or Nagelsmann myself if we were going to be "bold" - but to read the comments I have seen here in the last few days, it does seem as if we are damned if we do, damned if we don't and as for the "thank you Wenger Ot guys" comment, it was about as clear as it could be that Arsene had (more than) run his course and it was time for a change.

I'm not sure whether I've read it right, but there seems to be a suggestion here that it could be Arteta with Cazorla? If so, I think it's a fascinating choice. It will either end up as a Wilf McGuinness / Frank O'Farrell appointment or it could be a Pep Guardiola - or maybe even something in between! Who knows?

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16 May 2018 15:00:10
I don't believe the rumors myself, but ill delve in as its the hot topic. i'm not opposed to Arteta at all, I agree completely. He could be a success, he could be a failure. i'm fairly sure he was thought very highly of when passing his badges, apparently being outstanding in the training. We all wanted change, and this is change. With Ivan, Raul and Sven overseeing things, a coach as opposed to a manager sounds pretty decent to me. If after a season or 2 he fails, we search again.

16 May 2018 16:21:55
I just believe that we need someone new. Arteta is not new. He was a part of the problem.

16 May 2018 16:27:04
The main point is that it is a hot topic and the general feeling is that it’s going to be a very unpopular choice and he and the club will be on a hiding to nothing. I think it would be very risky and frankly a stupid choice. You have to remember that it just isn’t an unpopular choice amongst the fans it’s not the first, second or third choice with the board so it needs to be Carlo, Benitez or emery in my opinion. But I honestly cannot see it been Arteta.

16 May 2018 17:13:40
To be honest he's not my choice at all. But if it's him. I will. Get behind him 100 percent and aw all. Should. Worries me that some might moan and protest if it doesn't start well. But if he's so good at coaching then why not take the risk. I belive the guys doing the transfers are taking us in the right direction so this could work. Arsenalex that sound a bit harsh on arteta to say he was part of the problem before. You seem to think he was more than just a player doing what his manager said.

16 May 2018 17:18:51
Not one arsenal fan, desired arteta when the chance of a new manager arose. It doesn't matter at the initial stage of his (if true) appointment if he is going to be a success or not. Its what would be behind it and the reason that will upset many people. Anyone appointed wouldn't please everone but arteta would please less. Not the start this new beggining needs and it would start with a massive handicap, faith or lack of.

16 May 2018 18:03:14
This is totally different to Wenger arrival and also totally different era the competition is a lot tougher. Both Zidane and pep managed the b teams before hand.

They also had Messi and Ronaldo to soften the blow.

16 May 2018 18:31:55
Agree Derby, no comparison, wenger at least had been a manager in football.

{Ed0333's Note - Arteta smacks of mediocrity at best and failure at worst. If you guys were gonna go young and bold who better than Naggelsman? He just got Hoffenheim Champions League football in his second season and taking them to the CL qualifiers in his first season. Has worked under Tuchel and speaks English. For me he is the epitome of young and bold. If indeed you do get Arteta is it an appointment for Art for arts sake?

16 May 2018 19:11:05
Ed, agree but there is a fine line between bold and stupid.

{Ed0333's Note - looks like you already have stupid and bold wrapped up mate.

16 May 2018 19:43:21
If he was to get the job it's totally irrelevant whether Artetta is popular or not with yhe fans right now it's how we feel about him or whoever gets the job next May that matters.
Allgeri or Simeone would bring no guarantee of success and Artetta holds no guarantee of failure.
No matter who gets the job and no matter how much people like or dislike the chioce the club makes it would be crazy to not even be prepared to give them a chance to prove the board right and the doubters wrong.

16 May 2018 20:11:40
Gunner, this is the real world and a big thing called patience, which we all have. The problem and it is a massive problem, arteta would have less time and chances than someone who had a record. This club needs a big rebound and if he deliver from the B of the bang, he will be ok. The problem arises when we hit a sticky patch andxthat patience is thin. Wenger came in and made an instant impact otherwise, he would have been the next bruce rioch. Arteta would not get any time and that is not what this club needs, instability.

17 May 2018 10:03:19
But Steve whoever the board appoints once it's done it's done and we as fans have two choices, give them a chance or give them constant stick simply because they were not who we wanted them to be.
It will be who it will be we can't chose that but what we can chose is to give them the benefit of the doubt until they prove themselves to be either brilliant or useless.

17 May 2018 11:59:15
Ed0333, glad to see you are still part of the nagelsmann cult :-)

He would be a perfect coach. His training is extra ordinary and his tactics are out of this world. He mixes up everything. Sometimes too direct which is very different from the usual advocates of possession based, positional play which involves meticulous build up. But heard he rejected arsenal or are those reports untrue ED?

{Ed0333's Note - I have no idea if he rejected Arsenal, that doesn’t sound plausible to me. I mean if you were a young, hungry and ambitious manager and Arsenal came knocking it’s a no brainer

17 May 2018 23:20:09
Ed i think you might be over-rating the arsenal job a bit.

It is a squad riddled with average players and one that needs serious investment and it seems the board does not want to invest in the team.

No matter how good a coach is, he needs talented players to work with so i am afraid it would take a miracle to transform arsenal into serial winners, a fact every sensible coach is aware of. I think they are all running away because they are afraid their reputation will be hurt which is very likely at a club like arsenal which doesn't want to invest into new players.

I believe he might have rejected arsenal because i heard it from a guy on twitter who is an AST member and he is very reliable when it comes to Arsenal rumours. He said arsenal's inquiry into nagelsmann went nowhere. It was instantly knocked back. That sounds like rejection to me.

{Ed0333's Note - im not privy to any Arsenal approach for Nag Ed’s 002 is your guy for that but I think you may be underestimating the Arsenal job its definitely an attractive one. Brand new shiny stadium, loyal fan base, based in London, a decent transfer budget and a fat salary to boot how many coaches would turn that down?

17 May 2018 23:48:45
Ed is a shame we are not going to get any well known decent coach. IMO the coach who was tailor made for arsenal despite his personal issues was tuchel but he went to PSG. Nagelsmann would have made a great substitute despite his young age.

Ed do you think Arteta would become a great manager? I know he will definately implement possession based positional play like guardiola but will he be good as good as guardiola?

People talk about guardiola being just a disciple of cryuff but they also seem to forget that pep was very analytical. For example the decision to move messi from the wing to a false number 9;guardiola was asked about that and i remember him saying he did that because the damage messi could do on the wing is limited because his movement is limited to 180 degrees but in the middle he can a full 360 degrees. If you think about it, it is genius. Guardiola's awareness of space is simply on another level. Can arteta be as good as his mentor? what do you think Ed?

{Ed0333's Note - I think you need a few days off Punani. Forget about Arsenal, Nagelsmann, Arteta, and Pep for a while. Make love to someone or something (there’s blow up dolls that offer the girlfriend experience) eat some pistachio ice cream, instead of clicking everything on the Tinternet Arsenal related read some Jean Paul Sartre, take a long warm bath listening to ambient sleep music, think of anything but football. Maybe watch a Bollywood film or three and divert your attention from all things Arsenal because you will start frothing at the mouth and give yourself an involuntary twitch if you carry on the way your doing. I’m genuinely worried about you mate....This is a legit intervention

18 May 2018 12:41:49
ED thanks for the concern, much appreciated. I am perfectly fine though. I am not in a tough place or anything, it is just that i love talking about The game especially the tactical side of it but i appreciate your thought. You are a top man.

{Ed0333's Note - Roy Hodgson and Brendan Rogers drove me to the depths of despair when they managed Liverpool and I knew the myriad of emotions they put me through, I was like a cat on a hot tin roof. Couldn’t wait for them to get sacked, especially Hodgson, in fact there was a time that I stopped watching liverpool games because of that man. Football managers are like women in a nightclub you very rarely get the one you want the Instagram glamour model but invariably you manage to pul some lookers. Unless your spurs of course who only get decent managers once in a lifetime.







 

 

 
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