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15 May 2018 23:56:39
I don't know why our fans think the arsenal job is a hot property. All the big coaches who have been linked with us, have either taken other job offers, extended their contracts or chosen to remain at their club.

We arsenal fans should be grateful to Arteta, as he is willing to take a job when everything is against him. It is a poisoned chalice, no coach wants to take it and the major reason being the board has no ambition. They are not willing to spend, hence why no top manager is interested.

It is not about history or stuff like that, it is purely down to money. You think man city got Guardiola because they have history? No. They got him because they showed him they have ambition. We could have gotten Allegri or any other top coach if we showed ambition.

I think we arsenal fans need to appreciate Arteta and cut him some slack. He took a pay cut to join us as a player and is willing to take up the job even though it is a poisoned chalice. I admire his courage. If i was in his shoes i wouldn't have taken that job because there is a bigger chance i would fail due to an unambitious owner. His career could end before it even gets started. He really has his back against the wall and i hope he succeeds for his sake and our sakes.

We are down to arteta because there is no one else, plain and simple. Every top coach is out of the running. Nobody wants us and that is not Arteta's fault. It is the fault of the board and the owner. I think the fans should be mad at them instead.

punani gooner

1.) 16 May 2018 06:48:04
Punani - I have nothing against Arteta and will support him if given the role but I have reservations:

1. We have a big defensive and mentality rebuild project
2. Arteta has limited experience as a manager but talks a good game about management but a lot about attacking play rather than defence
3. Limited experience handling players like Ozil, PEA, Rambo etc
4. Limited success as a player at an international level or club level. Combined with Management experience is not a great mix
5. Limited pool of managers due to budget and set up - have we limited ourselves to Arteta by our ambition and fears of another monopoly of power situation. Well a full dilution doesn’t work either
6. Will Arteta stand up to the board and what back room staff will he bring to help him or does that need to bed in also.

{Ed025's Note - all good points SY, its a massive job for a rookie to take on and i can see it all ending in tears myself...but who knows mate..

2.) 16 May 2018 07:49:04
If Arteta gets the job and it all starts going horrible wrong, I’d expect a horrific atmosphere at the emerites and potentially a lot worse than the last few seasons have been. Fans were torn before 50/ 50, some over looking poor results, instead respecting Wengers legacy and the hardship he put into transforming this club. This time round it will all be united aimed a one person. Kronke.

3.) 16 May 2018 08:34:52
IF and it's Still a big if Artetta gets the job then my concern is he trys to get current Arsenal players to play Pep style football.
Lots of top footballers struggle as managers with lower league teams simply because they try to get them to do stuff like premier league players forgetting if they were capable of that they would actually be premier league players.
It's no good trying to paint fine lines needed for a masterpiece of art with a 3 inch paint brush you've got to adapt your picture according to the materials you have available.

4.) 16 May 2018 08:51:34
Another point that should be mentioned. Why would Arteta want to leave the best team in the league working under arguably the best manager in the world (because of money) ? If he does take the job then fair play to him! He's risking his limelight that Pep keeps giving him to go out on manage the club that he loved to play for! I must stress that it wasn't my first choice by a long shot but there must be something there. I hope!

5.) 16 May 2018 13:42:47
The only reason why arsenal are going for arteta is because the other managers have rejected them or are not available. It has nothing to do with the bullshit gazidis said about making a 'bold' choice. A bold choice is a nagelsmann or a tedesco not an arteta.

I feel sorry for arteta. The fans are against his appointment and the board won't back him. Regardless of who comes in, that arsenal team has a long list of players who are not good enough.
1.Cech-past it
2.Bellerin-technically deficient (can't cross can't defend a speed merchant)
3. Mustafi-shocking defender. How many times have you seen him fall on his arse?
4.Koscienly-literally his Achilles has become his Achilles heel
5.Xhaka-poor tackler, slow and lacks concentration
6.Ramsey-technically not good enough
7.Iwobi-They say okocha is his uncle. Seems he didn't inherit the good genes.
8.Welbeck-shocking player. How he makes into the first team i don't know.

That is 8 players who should be shipped out so we need like a whole new team. That lot we have won't even get us into the top four. Regardless of who comes in, arsenal's perennial issues will never be addressed. The biggest issue being an owner who has zero ambition.

I feel arteta can do a decent job if the fans get behind him but i am afraid regardless of who comes in, we will never win something big unless the owner spends, something i don't think will happen. We need to start a campaign to get kroenke out.

6.) 16 May 2018 14:36:23
BS! Manager at arsenal is probably the biggest job on the market. Stable finances. Solid structure. Good (under performing) team. Good backroom staff. Getting Allegri or Ancelotti is not guaranteed any success, and the board probably know it. It might be throwing money out the window and messing up a good system.

BTW, Guardiola took over Barcelona when he was 37 years after managing the Barcelona B team. Pochettino was 37 when he took over Espanyol, no experience. The fact is that we don't know much about Arteta and the type of manager he will be. The fact that Guardiola hand picked him as his assistant is a sign of quality, he is usually a picky guy.

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7.) 16 May 2018 15:47:37
Norgunner, the arsenal job is not as big as you think it is. Here is what we know so far. Look at all the managers we were linked with and what happened with them.
1.Allegri-opted to stay at juventus. They say he had issues with the transfer budget. out of the running as of now
2.Enrique (Don't rate him highly) -had issues with salary and transfer budget. out of the running as of now.
3.Tuchel-Went to PSG.
4.Nagelsmann-Arsenal were interested. He opted to stay in hoffenheim.
5.joachim lowe-extended his contract with the german national team

I may be missing a couple more but, when wenger stepped down, the candidates were suppossedly many but almost any top manager that we we linked with; has opted to either stay, take other job offers or not even take our job even though they were unemployed.

Forget about top tier coaches, second tier coaches like nagelsmann have rejected us, what does that say about the arsenal job? face it nobody wants it and it has everything to do with the board and the owner. They don't want to spend.



14 May 2018 20:39:09
How far have we fallen that no top manager is interested in us?
Allegri-not interested
Tuchel- was not interested and went to psg.
Nagelsmann-not interested
enrique-deemed our salary low

From the so called list we drew up, it seems most of the top coaches are not interested in us. we are down to arteta and viera.

punani gooner

1.) 14 May 2018 21:07:18
I wouldn't panic just yet punani. Only tuchel out of your list is definitely not interested. Most of the "info" about the others at the moment can't be trusted.

2.) 14 May 2018 21:16:37
Of that list I can understand allgeri wants to stay loyal to a club he has won multiple titles with. Tutchel i'm not sure what he had done to be classed a top manager. What do others thing. Nagelsmann not a top manager yet. Hope we get him but haven't seen him rule himself out. And Enrique like tutchel I don't see the fuss about him especially with the stupid salary he wants.

3.) 14 May 2018 21:22:26
It’s not like that punani. Someone has to fit the profile and want the job. It won’t be Vieira or Arteta I’m sure of it.

4.) 14 May 2018 23:35:31
Allegri said he was staying at juve. He did an interview after the roma game and said he was staying. so definitely not interested.

The reliable german journo, honigstein came out and said that tuchel was interested in the arsenal job last season. He was contacted this season too after he got into talks with PSG. rebuffed the arsenal offer (IMO the perfect coach for arsenal at this point in time)

About nagelsmann, i believe he is not interested because he already rejected bayern. Why would he reject bayern and choose arsenal? There is also an AST (arsenal supporters trust member) who is fairly reliable when it comes to Arsenal rumours who said that arsenal made an enquiry regarding nagelsmann and it was rebuffed. They were not even given a response. That is a bit insulting

DG, tuchel is a top top manager. Tactically very good. incredible coach. His only issue is how he relates to the board and stuff but on the pitch Thomas is a genius. off the pitch is where he has an issue. Nagelsmann is in the same mould too. What is interesting is it is tuchel who got nagelsmann into management. When tuchel was at augsburg i believe, it was nagelsmann who used to do opposition research for him. Tucehl and nagelsmann are similar. The tiny difference i have noted is that nagelsmann especially this season has his teams playing lot of long balls so i guess that makes him a bit unpredictable especially against the big teams. He is not shy to try the odd long ball.

Years ago guardiola and klopp were interested in us but we lost both chances. In my opinion i think arsenal made the wrong choice in not going all out for guardiola, a one in a generation kind of coach. Everywhere he has gone he may not have won every time but he has left a tactical footprint. Till now the guardiola effect is being felt in germany, easily the best coach of his generation. He was the coach to establish arsenal as a global force but he is gone now. He might have won the champions league or set us on the path to winning it but that is all gone now.

Shows how far we have fallen that second tier coaches like nagelsmann won't even respond to our inquiries.



14 May 2018 11:44:09
Deep down i had a feeling that allegri would not come to arsenal. I had that feeling because we have an owner with zero ambition. That has been our biggest problem. It just didn't come to light because wenger is not the kind of guy not to moan about lacking funds. He is a gentleman in that respect. He keeps things in-house.

Kroenke once did an interview i think was on the standard newspaper, it did seem incoherent to me but what i could get from that interview was that he thinks spending is not the way to go. He even went further and said he admires what.

punani gooner

1.) 14 May 2018 13:27:41
He is happy with managing the biggest club in Italian football, a team in the CL who have reached the final and semifinal fairly often in recent years. Probably worth noting that he's not going to Chelsea either, which has the definition of an invested owner.

2.) 14 May 2018 15:29:16
kroenke does not want to invest and the team needs serious investment. six to seven new players minimum that is the only way we can compete regardless of who the next manager is even though it would help if we hired someone who is ahead of his time.

i can only see us falling further and further behind. Wenger was just the symptom of a larger problem. We have addressed the symptom but not the disease;the disease being an unambitious owner and a totally incompetent board.

3.) 14 May 2018 19:16:20
This could be the most over the top reaction to someone not wanting to join us.

4.) 14 May 2018 20:49:55
I agree. If it’s true and Allegri is out of the running, it’s no coincidence big name managers with a reputation to withhold like Allergi and Enrique are No longer front runners; its because of the board upstairs and their lack of ambition and no doubt budget disagreements. Arteta and co maybe great coaches but even Pep spends 200 mil a season.

5.) 15 May 2018 02:42:27
Kroenke sanctioned a ton of spending on players in the past few seasons. We just spent 50m on a 29y/ o striker in January, not to mention picking up Xhaka and Mustafi for huge fees, Lacazette, etc.

I have a lot of issues with Kroenke's management but sanctioning spending is not one of them, not when you compare it to things like pushing contract renewals and how we actually conduct the business of transfers in and out.



23 Apr 2018 22:43:52
The daily telegraph reporting that the new Arsenal manager has been restricted to a 50 million pound transfer budget. If that is true, this is a joke. Can't see any big manager being interested in the Arsenal job.

Seems wenger has been taking a lot of bullets for this terrible board and stingy owner. This team an investment of at least 200-300 million pounds, if we don't spend how can we challenge city united and the likes?

punani gooner

1.) 24 Apr 2018 06:33:35
How about you don't believe everything you read in the media? Their job is to stir up rubbish and generate clicks. They are capitalising on our uncertainty and the typical myopic nature of a football fan. Take every football report not officially released by the club as a mixture of horse manure and guesswork.

2.) 24 Apr 2018 07:58:02
Didn't the papers say we had no money left to spend before we got aubameyang.

3.) 24 Apr 2018 10:59:53
Didn't the Telegraph also say we'd have snow last week?
I think Pete Waterman must be the head of a new press association money making task force, The Hit Factory.

4.) 24 Apr 2018 12:04:16
The telegraph is not the daily mail. They are a bit more reliable. They were the first paper to report wenger was leaving irregardless of our europa league performance so they have a bit of merit. They are not the BBC though. I find David ornstein to the most reliable journo when it comes to arsenal.

I wouldn’t be surprised if that report is true and that we only have 50 million to spend because frankly kroenke isn’t the kind of guy who invests in his team. I think the truth will come out now that wenger is gone. If the new manager is relatively unknown you can bet he will have little money to spend, if it is a big name then that means this report is not true. I don’t think coaches like Allegri or enrique will come to Arsenal without being given a big transfer budget but i have a gut feeling that this is true and that the failures of arsenal over the years had a lot to do with the owner not investing in the team than wenger being a bad manager and i think that painful truth will come out now that wenger is gone.

{Ed001's Note - every paper has been reporting Wenger would go for years now.}

5.) 24 Apr 2018 12:34:51
I find Ornstein very reliable too mate and the bbc (on football) like this page tend to stick only reporting on something when there is actually something to report on.

All papers invent stuff to get hits as there just isn't enough real news scoops to make a living out of 365 days a year.

You can google just about anything you like and someone somewhere will have already written something about it somewhere at some point.

I bet if you type Pogba Ronaldo Messi Jose Pep to Arsenal I bet there is something fairly recent somewhere from someone on that subject.

6.) 24 Apr 2018 15:38:03
Towards the end of last year, i think david ornstein said that Arenal have no money for major signings. we might have bought aubameyang, but we also sold chambaerlain, walcott, coquelin. our net spend was negative i think. So i don't doubt this story of the telegraph. I am afraid there is some veracity to that story.

Every time we spent big, we always had to sell players. We might have bought lacazette and auabmeyang, but we sold useful squad players like the ox and giroud.

The important question is, will kroenke plough in 200-300m of his own money into the club to enable us to comepete with the manchester giants? i don't think so. which really means nothing will change at the club. The only good thing is that the anger will now be directed towards the board and stan koenke rather than Arsene wenger who was their punching bag.

{Ed001's Note - you have a large cash reserve in the bank, there is no need for Kroenke to put anything in.}

7.) 24 Apr 2018 19:44:56
Ed, are you ivan gazidis by any chance? :-)

{Ed002's Note - Kroenke cannot simply pour money in to the club.}

8.) 24 Apr 2018 22:04:58
Worst owner of any top six team in the premier league. Never invested a cent, doesn't attend matches, never talks to the media. Hope he gets out of the club soon. He is nothing but a leech and a parasite.



22 Apr 2018 23:08:08
I know majority of the posters here want allegri and i for one think he won't be a bad choice but there is a reason why he isn't my favorite and tonight was one of the many games against big teams where Allegri set up to defend.

His football is too reactionary and boring. His juventus team tonight didn't even have one shot on target. Imagine ) shots on target and you are the home team.

Napoli on the other hand attacked the whole game and kept the ball well. I am not sure alegri's methods would survive in the premier league when we don't have a good squad. The only way we can win with the likes of allegri is if we spend big which i don't think we will and that is why i always preferred tuchel or nagelsmann or tedesco. Very young bright coaches who can get the best out of the squad while playing attacking football.

punani gooner

1.) 23 Apr 2018 12:55:41
Just wait and see mate, there are so many names so many possible outcomes once the managerial merry-go-round gets going who knows who will end up where by the time June gets here.
Conte will most likely lose his job but he will get another so someone somewhere will have to make way for him and then whoever does make way for Conte will take another managers job and so on it goes.
Jump in to quick and we could miss out on someone who suddenly becomes available who knows what might happen between now and June.

2.) 23 Apr 2018 16:41:57
Juve were outplayed by a young and naive Spurs team. Let's be honest. Both Allegri and Carlo are overrated with some media backing behind them.
Those who talk about experience and big clubs etc - remember Barcelona turned down Jose for an unproven Pep.
I'll take Enrique or Jadim - they have the versatility to deal with the sort of transition we need to go thru.

3.) 23 Apr 2018 18:55:10
Who ever you go for Gabo it's a gamble and absolutely no one comes with guaranteed success not Pep not Jose not Jurgen.
All you can ever do is make the best educated guess amd hope its right.




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31 Aug 2018 15:18:47
Great news to hear that Reiss nelson has signed a long term contract before heading to hoffenheim on loan.

I have no doubt he will improve as a player during that loan spell because he will be trained by one of the brightest young coaches in europe.

punani gooner

1.) 31 Aug 2018 17:47:10
Agree, if he gets good game time.

2.) 31 Aug 2018 18:39:04
It's got to be better than playing against other young players in the under 21s where with the greatest respect there is a very little to be learned at that level.

I'd like to see a lot more young English players who can't currently get into there clubs match day 18 go out on loan abroad for a couple of seasons and learn something a little different playing against 1st team players in other countries.
If your still playing under 21 football at 19 or 20 chances are your not going to make it in top level football.

3.) 31 Aug 2018 21:16:24
There’s plenty if not more to be learnt at that level! It’s where the foundations are laid. Maybe you meant nothing more to be learned. And a step up is to be made, infact he will have champions league experience with Hoffenheim.

4.) 31 Aug 2018 21:38:29
Yeah sorry that is what I meant to say mate :- (, but once you get to 18 19 or 20 at under 21 football you are simply repeating the same old stuff against similar standard players who can't make their clubs first team squads either, to improve and make the grade you've got to up the anti all the time until you crack the first team.
A much over used sales slogan that's used to try milk more and more out of people is " if your not going forward your going backwards because those around you will be moving forward while your standing still " but I think when your a young footballer it's probably quite true because it's a very very competitive business.
It's tougher than ever to make it in today's premier league because clubs search the world over for young talent apposed to 20 years ago when few youth teams had overseas players on thier books and it's so easy to get left behind.



29 Aug 2018 16:25:38
Hi Ed, i am curious to know why football ownership in the premier league is not like la liga and bundesliga.

i know in bundesliga there is the 51% rule but don't think it is the same in spain but still two of the biggest teams in spain are owned by fans and they have elections almost every few years.

I assume there are no laws preventing fan groups from owning clubs, so why shouldn't fans form associations, charge membership fee and then buy the clubs they supposedly love instead of moaning about owners all the time?

punani gooner

{Ed002's Note - They could not raise the money to buy nor sustain the business.}

1.) 29 Aug 2018 17:08:09
Which ones failed with take over and which ones failed to sutain? And how come the bundesliga teams can sustain? schalke alone has 144k members if i am not wrong. Then why can't clubs as big as united and arsenal with their worldwide support, have a bigger membership association that can take over and susutain the club with yearly membership fee payment?

{Ed002's Note - Sorry, you don’t understand. There were no takeovers. You need to find something else to think about as you don’t understand about this.}

2.) 29 Aug 2018 18:17:51
Exeter City are fan owned, by the supporters Trust, bought the club for £20000, all they had in 2003 after relegation to the conference and taking on a debt of £4.5 million and the owners being done for corruption and they also struggle to produce the money to sustain the club, even in league would be nigh on impossible for Utd, arsenal or whoever supporters to come up with probably several billion or so to take over. In Germany the 51% rule ment the fans never lost control, but trying to raise the capital to buy back in once its lost would be impossible to coordinate.

3.) 29 Aug 2018 22:09:14
Thanks Ed for the replies.

Eden i understand your point. The value of clubs has sky rocketed and that alone makes it impossible for fans to buy back clubs. Think The UK government should have done more to help with laws governing ownership.

{Ed002's Note - It has nothing to do with the Government.}



25 Aug 2018 21:32:53
Encouraging signs. The team seems fitter now than they were under wenger. Torreira was excellent when he came on. xhaka, bellerin, mustafi were alll poor as usual.

Bellerin, mustafi, xhaka, ramsey and mhitaryan all need to be replaced. This is the most technically deficient arsenal team in my lifetime.

I reminisce over when we had the best striker in the world in Henry and the best number 10 in berghamp. Every poor touch and every misplaced pass today somehow reminded me of dennis and sadly that is how far we have fallen. we are far off from city and liverpool.

punani gooner

1.) 25 Aug 2018 21:59:05
2 years ago Liverpool and City were far off from City and Liverpool mate, then in came Klopp and Pep but even they needed some time.

2.) 25 Aug 2018 22:34:43
Just watched game (obviously knowing result) there are things that are obvious. Some players are not playing the pressing game, i was impressed by myki, Gouendouzi, torreira, auba, lacca and monreal, just because you can see they are trying to press. The problem is you can't press on your own and expect to get results, you need to press in twos and threes. Bellerin was great going forward again but his defending and general play was awful. Ramsey, what position was he playing and did he think he was playing on his own. Still think defensively our problems stem from central midfield and right back leaving mustaffi and papa exposed and they aren't good enough to cover for the lack of protection. Going forward we are ok going back we are in trouble. We are either pressing as a team or we might as well not bother. The cozy club are being stubborn.

3.) 25 Aug 2018 23:04:26
Some people are of the view that Bellerin should be tried at the RW position with Litchsteiner playing the RB position. Seems to be a great idea but don't know if it will work.

4.) 25 Aug 2018 23:22:30
It would work in some games willy but he lacks trickery. Still worth a try if it gets him away from right back though.

5.) 25 Aug 2018 23:46:32
Having watched the highlights on motd it seems obvious to me the only way to play the high press without being sitting ducks at the back is to play 3 5 2 allowing the full backs to be more attacking than defensive without leaving the CBs helplessly exposed.
As for Xhaka I'm none the wiser for the motd highlights because they really show enough of the game to notice his good half hour but I'm happy to accept the general consensus that he was better than usual ( obviously that's not difficult) But most reports on the game agree he did well once Torreira came on.
Xhaka Ramsey Mesut? Well they'd have to fight for their right to party.

6.) 26 Aug 2018 07:56:44
Agree with your comments Steve. We clearly need to learn to press as a team and I am not sure certain players will suit this style. In respect of Bellerin he has little defensive ability and am wondering whether we should try Lichtsteiner at RB, with Bellerin on the right of the midfield three? On the left the same may be an idea, with Monreal at LB and Kolasinac, when fit, on the left of the midfield three. With one creative midfield player in the centre of the three, THis may work away from home, giving more defensive cover, but at home, we would need one more creative/ attacking player in the three,

7.) 26 Aug 2018 08:09:44
G62 - The idea in Emery's 4-2-3-1 is that the 3 drop back when defending to form a 4-5-1 or at times a 4-4-2. The problem is that Iwobi and Ozil in particular are useless defensively and in any type of press. Mkhitaryan and Ramsey are not much better.
Perhaps Maitland=Niles, when fit, could play in the three or away from home play Lichtsteiner and Monreal at FB and Bellerin and Kolasinac, when fit, wide in the three. This will aid the team defensively away from home.

8.) 26 Aug 2018 08:47:45
Having a system you prefer is fine but if you don't have the right people to play that system it simply can't work.

9.) 26 Aug 2018 10:17:36
G62 - yes, that is the problem Emery was left by Wenger who had poorly balanced squads for a decade.
Emery made 5 signings during the window, which is about as many that can be successfully integrated into the squad in one window. So far he has only played Sokratis and Guendouzi in the starting line up.
I am certain he knows that we need to make 2 or 3 signings and 2 or 3 departures in January.
Possible January departures, if possible: Ramsey (contract issue and overrated) , Ozil (a costly waste of space) .
I would also like to see Iwobi and Mustafi replaced as soon as possible.
Signings in January, 2 wide players that can defend and attack.

10.) 26 Aug 2018 10:58:40
I just hope people are prepared accept some high scoring defeats as well as some high scoring wins and draws along the way RG.
This season much like Pep and Jurgen first season is going to be full of ups and downs with some shock wins and defeats along the way because Dicks playing system isn't going to happen quickly and certainly not smoothly.

11.) 26 Aug 2018 11:42:15
G62 - Emery has been left with a poor squad and it will take time to rebuild. When you think we sold or released the following players since the start of last season, the squad which was already lacking was weakened further:
Giroud, Wilshere, Oxlade, Sanchez, Coquelin, Perez, Ospina, Koscieny (long term injury) , Chambers, Campbell, Akpom, Cazorla, Mertesacker, Walcott, Szczesny, Debuch. Many had to go, but a massive rebuilding job.

12.) 26 Aug 2018 12:15:35
RG that’s some talent we’ve let go and arguably some much better than what we have.



18 Aug 2018 22:31:07
A lot of positives to take from our match and a few worries.

To the positives, i liked our performance in the first half. Guendouzi, mkhi, torreira and cech did well. i also liked that Emery is not loyal to any player. The untouchables under wenger either got benched or were substituted.

My biggest worry is that physically we dropped off in the second half. I think it is due to the fact that we pressed a relentlessly. I think Emery needs to work on that. If you press a lot and then don't take advanatage of the chances you create, it bites you in the ass eventually.

The entire backline needs replacing at Arsenal. Monreal is the only decent player. The rest are terrible. We also need a couple of wingers. Arsenal lost to chelsea today not because of emery's tactics but because chelsea have better players. It is that simple. The board has to back him in the transfer market.

punani gooner

1.) 18 Aug 2018 23:04:43
Yeah for sure it going to take a couple of transfer windows at least for Emery to get the sqaud he wants, he is still in the learning phase this early on finding out about the players.

Wenger left him with such unbalanced squad with far to many central Attacking midfielders with nobody that is comfortable out wide so we need a couple of more natural wide players and for me another DM. Mustafi, Bellerin and Xhaka are clearly not good enough and if you going to play such a high line you have to have real pace at the back, so we need a pacy CB as you can't be sure Kos has got much left in him now.

Torriera and Guendouzi both look to be decent buys and we certainly have plenty of goals in us with Aubu and Lacazette. It is just going to take time to get that balance between attack and defence right. On another day we could have scored 5 today in the first half with the very good chances we had. I think about 10 or so games in we will see the side take shape a bit more into Emery's way.

2.) 19 Aug 2018 03:16:24
After the last few seasons and a new manager with totally different ideas, did anyone really expect to beat citeh and chelski away in the first two games. Anyone who knows about football, will accept the enormity of the task and accept we are not gate crashing the top four this season. My prediction of 5th and the europa league would still be a great season. To me that is still the realistic aim. Feet on the ground lad, wenger left us a right shower of sh.

3.) 19 Aug 2018 08:25:39
Problem is, is he going to be able to fix it? Pep struggled his first year, didn't have the players so spent £300 odd million, no way emery getting close to that backing! 😂.

4.) 19 Aug 2018 11:17:08
True Eden mate but I don't think most of us expect Dick to emulate Pep but to just make us competitive again, becoming the invincibles part two or getting 100 points in a season isn't likely to happen but
If under Emery we go to old Trafford City Chelsea Liverpool Spurs and are involved in 50/ 50 battles where only 1 goal separates the teams either way I think most of us would be happy.
Imagine being really excited rather than half frightened going to those grounds again where it's just to tight to call the result either way :-)
I'd be more than happy with that.

5.) 19 Aug 2018 12:09:44
I do actually think some players are now being exposed for the frauds they are and i aso think given time Dick will make us competative again against the top teams. Wenger has taken us on a journey, which took us to 10 years behind in football terms, that will take time sorting. All we aee seeing is Dick trying to slowly sort out the crap that wenger left. If people can't realise, its not going to be easy sorting out the rank players and the cozy mentality, then they are fools, misled or blind. It will take time, all ready (all be it slighty headless) players are starting to put more effort in. No one is more frustrated than me but i know the dross that was left behind and the massive job, it won't happen over night.

6.) 19 Aug 2018 17:32:18
Oh yes I wasn't expecting dick to emulate pep, with the budget he's got if he gets anywhere close with what 1/ 6 of the budget then he's incredible! But we have no hope of competing if he's only going to get £50 mil a year when realistically we need far more spent than city did to fix.



12 Aug 2018 22:15:01
Hope you all gooners have been good. I know i have not posted here for a long time. I have been busy. Missed reading posts and talking to you guys.

Watched the game today and i have to say i was impressed with guenduozi. The kid has a future and serious talent. Cech and sokrtatis were decent as was torreira when he came on.

Mustafi. xhaka and Ramsey were shocking. was not surprised Emery took ramsey and xhaka off. i have always said that bellerin, ramsey, xhaka and mustafi were not good enough to start for Arsenal.

Now that kroenke has taken full control, i hope he makes serious investment into the team. It is obvious this team needs a whole load of new players.

Kroenke has to put his money where his mouth is. It is just not good enough to say you have the ambition to win the league and champions league. You must state how you will reach that goal, something kroenke never does. He needs to tell us how he will take us to the promised land.

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1.) 12 Aug 2018 22:54:30
Hi Punani mate good to hear from you.

2.) 12 Aug 2018 22:34:27
I understand your frustration but it's the first game under a new manager. So we all have to be patient as this players are being taught a new playing style. It took Pep and Klopp some years to get the best of their teams. While it may take time we hope it comes quickly. But for a few mistakes we weren't that bad against a team who have played together under the same coach for at least 3 years. We also created some chances we should have finished on another day. I'm sure when we the players do get this new system we will be a team many look at. Cheers.

3.) 13 Aug 2018 12:31:33
Hi mate,

I’m not certain the man at the top has the intent needed mate, Liverpool and Chelsea have probably spent more on just goalkeepers that we have on 5 outfield players.

Aside from Torreira, who is a genuine breath of fresh air, I’d say our window was pretty underwhelming. Kroenke really doesn’t have the stomach to achieve anything mate.

1 game in, we don’t look like a top four side, but it takes time. I have no expectations of trophies, challenges or anything that a big club should be doing because Wenger, much as I didn’t like to think it, allowed us not just to stagnate, but go backwards alarmingly.

I hope if nothing else from this first game, that we don’t see Xhaka in the starting 11 for the premier league again this season. He adds absolutely nothing and I mean nothing to our midfield.

We have some great offensive players and will need to rely on them and Torreira to protect our still dodgy defence.

For me it’s get next week out the way and then we have a run of games to try and get settled.

4.) 13 Aug 2018 15:23:34
Elneny before Xhaka every time for me, Xhaka must have played 70 + games for us now has he had even 7 good games in those 70?
1 in 10 good games is appalling but I'm genuinely not sure he's even done that, you can't keep playing with 10 hoping he will score a 40 yarder at some point somewhere.

5.) 13 Aug 2018 21:46:09
Good to hear from you too gunner mate. How have you being doing?




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23 May 2018 00:03:00
Sanogo am still getting over guardiola to city 😩.

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23 May 2018 00:00:53
SinGooner will get behind the team. I am a fan first of all. I hope Emery proves me wrong. I'll be over the moon if we won the league or the champions league in the next 2-3 years. It is just that i have my doubts is all but for sure i'll get behind the team and support the boys.

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22 May 2018 15:06:54
Will give him a chance mate but his work at PSG was a massive under-achievement and he couldn't exert his authority. Players were dictating to him when it should have been the other way round. I have my doubts but will get behind the team. I'll be sincere it is an appointment that doesn't excite me. He is a B-list manager at best.

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22 May 2018 15:04:03
Allegri and nagelsmann both turned down Arsenal. It has been heavily reported.

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21 May 2018 21:51:40
Ed will give him a chance mate and will support the team but i am very sceptical is all.

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{Ed025's Note - lets just see how things go before we throw him to the wolves punani mate, a lot of this stuff was said when arsene was appointed and look how that turned out..




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29 Aug 2018 22:09:14
Thanks Ed for the replies.

Eden i understand your point. The value of clubs has sky rocketed and that alone makes it impossible for fans to buy back clubs. Think The UK government should have done more to help with laws governing ownership.

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{Ed002's Note - It has nothing to do with the Government.}



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29 Aug 2018 22:13:41
Then why not sack him completely? I see no point in keeping a manger when you do not fully support his vision.

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29 Aug 2018 17:08:09
Which ones failed with take over and which ones failed to sutain? And how come the bundesliga teams can sustain? schalke alone has 144k members if i am not wrong. Then why can't clubs as big as united and arsenal with their worldwide support, have a bigger membership association that can take over and susutain the club with yearly membership fee payment?

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29 Aug 2018 16:16:23
Gunner never felt like jose was the right manager for united. The coach who would have suited united the most in my opinion would have been guardiola, a coach who has a global name, plays attacking football and promotes young players, the complete opposite of mourinho. That said, i feel like man united's problems do not just emanate from mourinho. They do not have a director of football and they keep sacking managers so there is no plan when it comes to the profile of players to be signed. Ed wooodward also did not back mourinho in the transfer window fully. I am just surprised why they didn't back him and if they won't back him why not sack him?

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26 Aug 2018 18:22:46
Monreal is a decent player steve. The only player from our backline that i would retain. The rest are terrible.

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