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27 Dec 2020 10:22:24
Brave of Arteta to play the young players. Glad it paid dividends. Saka, martinelli and emile smith rowe were excellent.

we have all being clamoring for the young players to be given a chance. At least we knew they will fight for the badge as opposed to semi-retired professionals like willian who is just here for his contract.

I am afraid Arteta might go back to playing the old pros again and we might again see the terrible performances we have been seeing. I hope he learns from this match and keeps playing the young players.

punani gooner

1.) 27 Dec 2020 23:10:22
I think that yesterday showed that there problems with Luis and Willian. Not saying the youngsters are the solution: i hope they are. But yesterday we played with something of a spine, even if we didn’t always keep our structure.

Shame we’re stuck with willian for another two years maybe we can ship him off to China.


2.) 27 Dec 2020 23:14:27
The secret is to get the correct mixture of experience and youth I’m sure that’ll come soon we have some fantastic young players but unfortunately some of our more experienced so called leaders have gone missing and one of them unfortunately happens to be our top goalscorer and club captain, PEA needs to get with it sharp, if not we need to sell him in January whilst he still has some value and before he becomes the rotten apple in the cart.


3.) 28 Dec 2020 16:37:31
John Mcvicar wrote a book called the Rotten Orchard, inferring that some instructions are full of rotten apples.
That book keeps coming to mind when I think of our club right now.


 

 

19 Dec 2018 23:24:18
Deeply dissapointed by our two recent losses. You can tell this team is devoid of quality in most areas of the pitch. It will be a miraculous achievement if Emery wins the europa or finishes in the top 4 with this lot.

The biggest worrying thing for me is that the team is in serious need of investment to get in the top four never mind challenging for the title.

The owner believes you can achieve both through our self sustaining policy but that can only work if we are winning trophies so that we generate more sponsorship but how can we win if we don't have a good squad? It is a vicious circle.

Unai Emery as much as he was not my first choice, is a decent coach but that team is so rubbish he can't do much. we have already fallen behind city and liverpool we risk falling behind the spuds and chelsea unless we invest heavily. United will get a new manager next season and they will spend heavily. I expect them to challenge for the title soon. I expect them to get poch or zidane and you can imagine how much they will spend then.

punani gooner

1.) 20 Dec 2018 02:45:17
Punani chill out. You forgotten all ready we destroyed spurs like a week ago as well as having an impressive unbeaten run. I agree the team is short of some world class talent but we’ve taken a massive step forward. Yes we’ve lost 2 games on the spin but do you remember what happened last time we lost 2 games on the spin?

We’ve not been great of late I admit, but in my opinion it’s no coincidence that form has dipped since the formation has changed and Lacazette hasn’t been starting.


2.) 20 Dec 2018 07:59:17
Emery has done a fine job so far, bringing in 5 players during the summer, which is about the maximum amount that could be safely integrated. We have been unfortunately to lose 2 players out for the season to injury. I would like to see us sign a couple of players in the window; a player to replace Welbeck, who can play up front and in a wide attacking role and a midfield player with an all-round game.
The following players are clearly on borrowed time:
Jenkinson! - utterly useless
Ozil
Iwobi - still poor despite an upturn in form since Emery's arrival
Ramsey - contract running down
Cech - contract running down
Monreal - contract running down
Elneny - simply not good enough

For me the major weakness for me that needs most attention is that we have too many attacking midfield players that offer so little defensively.


3.) 20 Dec 2018 09:35:19
Dick has a similar job to what Jurgen walked into at Liverpool both inherited poor squads full of obvious weaknesses and defensive problems.
It didn't happen over night at Liverpool and it won't happen over night at Arsenal either, this time last season people were still asking huge questions about Liverpools defence.
Jurgen and Liverpool had some pretty poor results on the way to getting where they are now 3 years after Klopp took over, patience is going with the manager and the club is the only way we stand a chance of getting back to being competitive.
If in 3 years time we still have all the same problems with squad quality then I will be joining those who question the club but if it took Liverpool and Klopp 3 years why should we expect Arsenal and Emery to do pretty much exactly the same job in less than 1 year?
Be realistic and give both the club and management a sensible chance and time scale to show what they can do together.


4.) 20 Dec 2018 15:45:54
Agreed, I think we've just gotten used to winning again, so fans are overreacting to the two losses on the trot.

Ideally we would have rotated yesterday, but that was a man's game and a NLD so we couldn't play the kids.

Although we lost, we now match them physically (which wasn't the case the last two seasons) and we need more time for Emery to get the players he wants.

We're tired and beat up, but we need to push to January and get a couple players to reinforce and refresh the squad.

We're on the right track boys.

COYG.


5.) 20 Dec 2018 18:58:04
Absolutely bang on the money g62. Results and seasons were poor, so most fans begged for a change. We've nkw got it. and while it has started better than we thought, it's not perfection. let's face it, things take time and I guarantee most fans of asked at the beginning of season if they'd be happy with where we are at this moment, majority would
Have said yes. New manager, new tactics, majority of inherited squad, but showing a fighting spirit that was lacking in past seasons. Rome wasn't built in a day, the excitement is surely in the curiosity of what lies ahead.


6.) 20 Dec 2018 19:20:09
So far the Dick Arsenal combo have brought in Torreira Guendouzi Leno Papa and Litch, Torreira and Guendouzi have both been brilliant signings so far and both look absolute bargains while Papa and Leno both look like good buys and Litch has proved a useful addition to the squad especially when covering injuries.
We can't sign Ronaldo Messi or Mbappe type names in order to fast track ourselves into the title race so we are going to need to be patient and buy well and if the 5 signings so far and the difference they have made are anything to go buy then we should be very excited about what we will look like if we add another 5 to them over the next two windows.


 

 

15 May 2018 23:56:39
I don't know why our fans think the arsenal job is a hot property. All the big coaches who have been linked with us, have either taken other job offers, extended their contracts or chosen to remain at their club.

We arsenal fans should be grateful to Arteta, as he is willing to take a job when everything is against him. It is a poisoned chalice, no coach wants to take it and the major reason being the board has no ambition. They are not willing to spend, hence why no top manager is interested.

It is not about history or stuff like that, it is purely down to money. You think man city got Guardiola because they have history? No. They got him because they showed him they have ambition. We could have gotten Allegri or any other top coach if we showed ambition.

I think we arsenal fans need to appreciate Arteta and cut him some slack. He took a pay cut to join us as a player and is willing to take up the job even though it is a poisoned chalice. I admire his courage. If i was in his shoes i wouldn't have taken that job because there is a bigger chance i would fail due to an unambitious owner. His career could end before it even gets started. He really has his back against the wall and i hope he succeeds for his sake and our sakes.

We are down to arteta because there is no one else, plain and simple. Every top coach is out of the running. Nobody wants us and that is not Arteta's fault. It is the fault of the board and the owner. I think the fans should be mad at them instead.

punani gooner

1.) 16 May 2018 06:48:04
Punani - I have nothing against Arteta and will support him if given the role but I have reservations:

1. We have a big defensive and mentality rebuild project
2. Arteta has limited experience as a manager but talks a good game about management but a lot about attacking play rather than defence
3. Limited experience handling players like Ozil, PEA, Rambo etc
4. Limited success as a player at an international level or club level. Combined with Management experience is not a great mix
5. Limited pool of managers due to budget and set up - have we limited ourselves to Arteta by our ambition and fears of another monopoly of power situation. Well a full dilution doesn’t work either
6. Will Arteta stand up to the board and what back room staff will he bring to help him or does that need to bed in also.

{Ed025's Note - all good points SY, its a massive job for a rookie to take on and i can see it all ending in tears myself...but who knows mate..


2.) 16 May 2018 07:49:04
If Arteta gets the job and it all starts going horrible wrong, I’d expect a horrific atmosphere at the emerites and potentially a lot worse than the last few seasons have been. Fans were torn before 50/ 50, some over looking poor results, instead respecting Wengers legacy and the hardship he put into transforming this club. This time round it will all be united aimed a one person. Kronke.


3.) 16 May 2018 08:34:52
IF and it's Still a big if Artetta gets the job then my concern is he trys to get current Arsenal players to play Pep style football.
Lots of top footballers struggle as managers with lower league teams simply because they try to get them to do stuff like premier league players forgetting if they were capable of that they would actually be premier league players.
It's no good trying to paint fine lines needed for a masterpiece of art with a 3 inch paint brush you've got to adapt your picture according to the materials you have available.


4.) 16 May 2018 08:51:34
Another point that should be mentioned. Why would Arteta want to leave the best team in the league working under arguably the best manager in the world (because of money) ? If he does take the job then fair play to him! He's risking his limelight that Pep keeps giving him to go out on manage the club that he loved to play for! I must stress that it wasn't my first choice by a long shot but there must be something there. I hope!


5.) 16 May 2018 13:42:47
The only reason why arsenal are going for arteta is because the other managers have rejected them or are not available. It has nothing to do with the bullshit gazidis said about making a 'bold' choice. A bold choice is a nagelsmann or a tedesco not an arteta.

I feel sorry for arteta. The fans are against his appointment and the board won't back him. Regardless of who comes in, that arsenal team has a long list of players who are not good enough.
1.Cech-past it
2.Bellerin-technically deficient (can't cross can't defend a speed merchant)
3. Mustafi-shocking defender. How many times have you seen him fall on his arse?
4.Koscienly-literally his Achilles has become his Achilles heel
5.Xhaka-poor tackler, slow and lacks concentration
6.Ramsey-technically not good enough
7.Iwobi-They say okocha is his uncle. Seems he didn't inherit the good genes.
8.Welbeck-shocking player. How he makes into the first team i don't know.

That is 8 players who should be shipped out so we need like a whole new team. That lot we have won't even get us into the top four. Regardless of who comes in, arsenal's perennial issues will never be addressed. The biggest issue being an owner who has zero ambition.

I feel arteta can do a decent job if the fans get behind him but i am afraid regardless of who comes in, we will never win something big unless the owner spends, something i don't think will happen. We need to start a campaign to get kroenke out.


6.) 16 May 2018 14:36:23
BS! Manager at arsenal is probably the biggest job on the market. Stable finances. Solid structure. Good (under performing) team. Good backroom staff. Getting Allegri or Ancelotti is not guaranteed any success, and the board probably know it. It might be throwing money out the window and messing up a good system.

BTW, Guardiola took over Barcelona when he was 37 years after managing the Barcelona B team. Pochettino was 37 when he took over Espanyol, no experience. The fact is that we don't know much about Arteta and the type of manager he will be. The fact that Guardiola hand picked him as his assistant is a sign of quality, he is usually a picky guy.

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7.) 16 May 2018 15:47:37
Norgunner, the arsenal job is not as big as you think it is. Here is what we know so far. Look at all the managers we were linked with and what happened with them.
1.Allegri-opted to stay at juventus. They say he had issues with the transfer budget. out of the running as of now
2.Enrique (Don't rate him highly) -had issues with salary and transfer budget. out of the running as of now.
3.Tuchel-Went to PSG.
4.Nagelsmann-Arsenal were interested. He opted to stay in hoffenheim.
5.joachim lowe-extended his contract with the german national team

I may be missing a couple more but, when wenger stepped down, the candidates were suppossedly many but almost any top manager that we we linked with; has opted to either stay, take other job offers or not even take our job even though they were unemployed.

Forget about top tier coaches, second tier coaches like nagelsmann have rejected us, what does that say about the arsenal job? face it nobody wants it and it has everything to do with the board and the owner. They don't want to spend.


 

 

14 May 2018 20:39:09
How far have we fallen that no top manager is interested in us?
Allegri-not interested
Tuchel- was not interested and went to psg.
Nagelsmann-not interested
enrique-deemed our salary low

From the so called list we drew up, it seems most of the top coaches are not interested in us. we are down to arteta and viera.

punani gooner

1.) 14 May 2018 21:07:18
I wouldn't panic just yet punani. Only tuchel out of your list is definitely not interested. Most of the "info" about the others at the moment can't be trusted.


2.) 14 May 2018 21:16:37
Of that list I can understand allgeri wants to stay loyal to a club he has won multiple titles with. Tutchel i'm not sure what he had done to be classed a top manager. What do others thing. Nagelsmann not a top manager yet. Hope we get him but haven't seen him rule himself out. And Enrique like tutchel I don't see the fuss about him especially with the stupid salary he wants.


3.) 14 May 2018 21:22:26
It’s not like that punani. Someone has to fit the profile and want the job. It won’t be Vieira or Arteta I’m sure of it.


4.) 14 May 2018 23:35:31
Allegri said he was staying at juve. He did an interview after the roma game and said he was staying. so definitely not interested.

The reliable german journo, honigstein came out and said that tuchel was interested in the arsenal job last season. He was contacted this season too after he got into talks with PSG. rebuffed the arsenal offer (IMO the perfect coach for arsenal at this point in time)

About nagelsmann, i believe he is not interested because he already rejected bayern. Why would he reject bayern and choose arsenal? There is also an AST (arsenal supporters trust member) who is fairly reliable when it comes to Arsenal rumours who said that arsenal made an enquiry regarding nagelsmann and it was rebuffed. They were not even given a response. That is a bit insulting

DG, tuchel is a top top manager. Tactically very good. incredible coach. His only issue is how he relates to the board and stuff but on the pitch Thomas is a genius. off the pitch is where he has an issue. Nagelsmann is in the same mould too. What is interesting is it is tuchel who got nagelsmann into management. When tuchel was at augsburg i believe, it was nagelsmann who used to do opposition research for him. Tucehl and nagelsmann are similar. The tiny difference i have noted is that nagelsmann especially this season has his teams playing lot of long balls so i guess that makes him a bit unpredictable especially against the big teams. He is not shy to try the odd long ball.

Years ago guardiola and klopp were interested in us but we lost both chances. In my opinion i think arsenal made the wrong choice in not going all out for guardiola, a one in a generation kind of coach. Everywhere he has gone he may not have won every time but he has left a tactical footprint. Till now the guardiola effect is being felt in germany, easily the best coach of his generation. He was the coach to establish arsenal as a global force but he is gone now. He might have won the champions league or set us on the path to winning it but that is all gone now.

Shows how far we have fallen that second tier coaches like nagelsmann won't even respond to our inquiries.


 

 

14 May 2018 11:44:09
Deep down i had a feeling that allegri would not come to arsenal. I had that feeling because we have an owner with zero ambition. That has been our biggest problem. It just didn't come to light because wenger is not the kind of guy not to moan about lacking funds. He is a gentleman in that respect. He keeps things in-house.

Kroenke once did an interview i think was on the standard newspaper, it did seem incoherent to me but what i could get from that interview was that he thinks spending is not the way to go. He even went further and said he admires what.

punani gooner

1.) 14 May 2018 13:27:41
He is happy with managing the biggest club in Italian football, a team in the CL who have reached the final and semifinal fairly often in recent years. Probably worth noting that he's not going to Chelsea either, which has the definition of an invested owner.


2.) 14 May 2018 15:29:16
kroenke does not want to invest and the team needs serious investment. six to seven new players minimum that is the only way we can compete regardless of who the next manager is even though it would help if we hired someone who is ahead of his time.

i can only see us falling further and further behind. Wenger was just the symptom of a larger problem. We have addressed the symptom but not the disease;the disease being an unambitious owner and a totally incompetent board.


3.) 14 May 2018 19:16:20
This could be the most over the top reaction to someone not wanting to join us.


4.) 14 May 2018 20:49:55
I agree. If it’s true and Allegri is out of the running, it’s no coincidence big name managers with a reputation to withhold like Allergi and Enrique are No longer front runners; its because of the board upstairs and their lack of ambition and no doubt budget disagreements. Arteta and co maybe great coaches but even Pep spends 200 mil a season.


5.) 15 May 2018 02:42:27
Kroenke sanctioned a ton of spending on players in the past few seasons. We just spent 50m on a 29y/ o striker in January, not to mention picking up Xhaka and Mustafi for huge fees, Lacazette, etc.

I have a lot of issues with Kroenke's management but sanctioning spending is not one of them, not when you compare it to things like pushing contract renewals and how we actually conduct the business of transfers in and out.


 

 

 

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08 Jan 2024 10:13:45
When will questions be asked of Arteta?

Over 700 million spent with no end result. Arsenal spent 200 million plus this season and still got worse. How can you spend 200 million and get worse? The Havertz signing is bewildering while the Raya signing is a sideways move at best. Burnt through 98 million pounds and still got worse.

I am sorry Arteta got to go if he does not win a trophy at the end of the season. You can't spend all that money, refuse to promote academy players and still go trophy less

Over 4 years at the helm and not one single academy player promoted . No matter how you look at it, that is damning on Arteta and in my opinion, one of the reasons why he should be relieved of his duties if he does not win a trophy at the end of the season.

You can't just spend, spend and spend unless you are an oil club. For clubs like arsenal, spending exorbitant amounts of cash without winning any meaningful silverware comes at a steep price.


Sometimes the solutions are within. You don't have to buy new players all the time, yet Arteta refuses to take a gamble on the young players. Frustrating.

punani gooner

1.) 08 Jan 2024 10:51:41
Punani we only seem to hear from you when we are in rough patch

Arteta is doing a good job In my opinion.


2.) 08 Jan 2024 11:22:12
Really? Get rid of Arteta? I have my quibbles and express them on here, but getting rid would be self-harm on a grand scale.


3.) 08 Jan 2024 11:56:06
Tell me Punami who is out there as a quality manager that could replace him.


4.) 08 Jan 2024 12:26:10
and how is Arteta responsible for who is coming through the academy when he has only been at the club for 4 years.

What a silly statement it is to say take a gamble on the youngsters, they have to be good enough to compete at the top of the prem. we have had a bad start to the year, and personally, i think the cup should have been high on our priority this season, be he played a strong team and we went out to a strong Liverpool team who we really should have been out of sight of by half time.

The Fulham game aside you can see that the team is creating chances, certainly enough to have a higher goal return than we have in the last 5/ 6 games.

Arteta cannot finish the chances for the players on the pitch and the players have proven they can finish them previously, but clearly at this moment in time seem to have lost that composure, but you can see they are coached to get in the positions so I am confident that we will turn this patch around.

how quickly some (apparently fans) forget where we have been the last 10 years, we are still in the title race, and yes we need to continue to improve and Arteta needs to keep taking the team forward, but to suggest they have gone nowhere is just click bait.


5.) 08 Jan 2024 13:15:21
Arteta isn't to blame for players who can't stick the ball in the net or make individual errors leading to goals.

The football we play now is some of the best we have seen since 2004 and the way the club is now run is heavily down to his leadership. Without Arteta we would take a gigantic step back.

He does infuriate me at times. I will never understand why he doesn't make subs early enough to make an impact. We'll be chasing a goal but continue to do the same thing in the 87th minute, and only then will he make a sub. Be bold and make the changes we need earlier. Also, giving some of the younger lads a chance is the only way they are going to make the step up. I understand he wants to protect them but there is no reason why some of them couldn't of featured yet.

Personally I hope we tie him down to another long term contract. Arteta will bring us success but he does need to recognise when he's wrong and tone it down a bit at times.


6.) 08 Jan 2024 13:57:57
Totally agree with you Glenn on your points regarding subs and the youngsters. My main criticism of Mikel is his lack of tactical nous, mix it up a bit, but I also realize we have not got the players in the squad to do this.


7.) 08 Jan 2024 14:07:04
malaga, I have always had my reservations about Arteta but I am not demanding that he is sacked now. I am only saying that he should be dismissed if he doesn't win a trophy at the end of the season.

Tactically though, I have always had my reservations about him. Arteta is not the prince that was promised. If you watched the game last night, you could see that Arteta could not respond to Klopp's tactical tweaks and that has been a recurring theme in his managerial stint at Arsenal; An inability to make tactical tweaks in-game.

we can all recall Arteta playing holding while having a high line toward the end of last season. He rectified that mistake only after the league was already gone. he is not proactive tactically and everything falls apart if he gets a couple of injuries. Compare that, with the likes of Klopp and Guardiola, who always adapt and innovate. You can tell that Arteta is a tier below them.

sadly though, there isn't an elite manager out there to replace him for now. Maybe some will become available in the summer.


should we just keep 'trusting the process' with no objectives at the end of it? Doesn't the club have targets?

almost 5 years into Arteta's tenure, millions were spent and we are yet to win a meaningful trophy. Klopp won the Champions League and the Premier League in his fourth full season while having spent half of what Arteta spent. To whom much is given, much is expected. Arteta has spent a lot and we expect him to deliver. I did not agree with Arsenal signing Havertz but I went along with it provided that Arsenal wins a trophy. Does it look like we will win anything?

I can guarantee you that Arsenal will go trophyless at the end of the season. If you look at the underlying numbers, Arsenal is resolutely defensively but average going forward. That won't win you trophies.

let us see where we will be at the end of the season but the club must have targets and heads must roll if they aren't met. we stuck with Wenger for too long to the detriment of the club. It must not be repeated.


8.) 08 Jan 2024 15:47:17
By your logic Punani we shouldn`t win either the EPL or UCL as City spent more than us in the Summer so should improve more than us plus all their recruits have played Timber hasn`t! Heard a manager say because we don`t have a Haaland type CF then there is no threat there so much easier for CB to help out the full backs plus any other help so completely smothering Saka and Martinelli. Waiting for midfield three of Partey Rice and Odegaard. Also by your logic he has to go as we apparently have no chance of winning a trophy. If the youngsters are good enough they would be given a chance trouble is to compete as we are we needed to buy quality and we did. Can`t buy average and put in youngsters regardless and expect to compete. With our squad giving Eddie and Nelson a new contract was a mistake. You mention the Oil money / Bohely money! Surely they should be winning everything - why should we have a divine right to win the Prem. We don`t yet you want him sacked. It gets a bit tough so sack him. I`ll say again MA ain`t perfect but he`s ours and one of us COYG Arteta In - did I have to say that!


9.) 08 Jan 2024 19:33:05
Sussex mate, City spent a lot but they also sell well. They have a lower net spend than Arsenalthis season, and they paid less for doku than Arsenal did for Havertz. So how do you expect to compete with a team like City that sells and buys better than Arsenal while having a better manager at the same time? It is a tall order.

I also said that he should be sacked if he does not win a trophy. He has had almost five years and that is long enough to deliver a meaningful trophy. if he does not win anything this season, how much more time do you think he should be given?


10.) 08 Jan 2024 21:03:25
I am missing something Punani! In your last post it is a tall order to win the league when City buy better and have a better coach yet if we don’t win the Prem he’s fired! You also said he should be sacked if he doesn’t win a trophy yet you GUARANTEE he won’t win one so therefore he goes. We went years without challenging for the title and we are still in it. From where we were to where we are now he deserves next season at least in my opinion. But I’m old and not a part of this modern knee jerk sign’em fire’em COYG.


11.) 09 Jan 2024 01:36:58
If he doesn't win us the premiership for the first time since.2004, or the champions league for the first time ever, he's sacked? Lol.


12.) 09 Jan 2024 12:28:27
Why are we trying to compare Arteta to Klopp or Pep?

Arteta is 4 and a half years into his managerial career! Klopp is 22 years into his.

In Klopp's 4th/ 5th season, he got Mainz relegated! Imagine if everyone had written him off then due to his early mistakes.

Arteta has a team competing at the top of the premier league and has an FA Cup to his name.

Arteta is no wear near an elite manager, but he is learning quickly and has improved the team and the club since he has been there, yes he makes mistakes and is frustrating at times, but this is the most excited I have been about our club in years and it's all under his watch.

let's not compare him to the very top in the game because he isn't, but he is definitely one of the very best young managers out there and he absolutely loves this club which is there for everyone to see, and I would rather that kind of manager than one who has no passion or Arsenal DNA in them.


13.) 09 Jan 2024 17:07:09
A lot of the players seem to really support and speak glowingly of Arteta, fair enough if we really crumble, but if we get close and get rid of Arteta harshly, I think a lot of players would feel disillusioned and push to leave too. It would need to be a really top manager to come and replace him and who would that be.


14.) 09 Jan 2024 17:16:05
Punani where you been? I thought you'd been captured by the bad uns of the deep state for sure.

Good to hear from you geeza even if I don't agree with all you say at all ???.


15.) 10 Jan 2024 19:14:22
Harsh to say he should go if we don't win a trophy. It's clear we are going in the right direction. Last two games vs Liverpool, how do i say it - they did not win the game, we lost it. We had genuine chance. We fancied ourselves recently, before we were hoping for a draw.
Regarding youngsters, it's my biggest criticism of arteta. I always hoped at least one of them get 5-10 mins of game time. Although tbf, our 1st 11 are mostly youngsters too. A little rest for them and a taste of prem for those coming through shouldn't hurt right?


 

 

27 Aug 2023 13:20:07
As much as I was in favor of Arteta being installed as the arsenal manager, I am starting to have serious doubts about his suitability for the role.

We can all moan about Stan Kroenke, but Arteta has been backed financially. To whom much is given, much is expected. Arteta needs to produce results now and to me it does not look like he is on that trajectory.

conceding poor goals and drawing to to a mid-table side like fulham, while having a one-man advantage, does not 'scream' title contenders to me.

Arteta has been in the Arsenal job for almost four years. He has been given considerable latitude in that time-frame to run the club as he deems fit. He has been promoted from a first team head coach to a manager. He has also been backed financially to the tune of 600m pounds. He has to produce this season. If not, his head should be on the chopping block.

punani gooner

1.) 27 Aug 2023 13:56:53
Who`s moaning about Kroenke? Three games in MA out! We are the new Watford COYG My brain is rattling as I shake my head.


2.) 27 Aug 2023 14:34:04
Sussex, it’s not Mikel out, it’s get your arse into gear and stop piszing about with a formula that worked last season.


3.) 27 Aug 2023 14:43:48
Agreed Mal - And I’m sure we will revert to last year’s successful formula.


4.) 27 Aug 2023 15:01:33
Mal and Banbury I agree and think he went with Partey as he felt we would have tons of possession. It`s the anti Kroenke and MA not up to it undertones that Pizzes me off and shaking my head.

It`s a slight personnel tweak Partey for Havertz Gabriel in and Zinchenko in the back four which I`m sure will happen next week. Let`s leave MA out to Twatter though COYG.

{Ed014's Note - we're 100% title challengers too!


5.) 27 Aug 2023 15:34:43
Jeebus! Why we wanting to lop of the man's head?

{Ed014's Note - literally no idea but it’s madness.


6.) 27 Aug 2023 15:35:48
Sussex needs his fingers lopped off! Damn timepiece bandit!


7.) 27 Aug 2023 16:42:49
I see Punani Gooner as Madame Defarge knitting while they chop Arteta’s head off after’ It was the best of times ‘ 2023 and ‘ the worst of times ‘ 2024 prem seasons although maybe PG is the age of wisdom and I’m the age of foolishness.

However the two cities should be London and Barcelona but surely that would be the Spanish Inquisition- no one was expecting that. Pass that pipe please Sharpie COYG when’s papa coming home - Bob Mortimer! Yep fecking lost it.

{Ed014's Note - I’ve no idea what you just said ??


8.) 27 Aug 2023 16:58:08
Sack him! There's plenty of managers that will come straight in and have us above city instantly.


9.) 27 Aug 2023 17:27:52
Don`t worry Ed some Bank Holiday Guiness talking! Tale of Two Cities to Monty Python to Gone Fishing - it was fun in my head once i`d stopped shaking it HaHa VTH.

{Ed014's Note - no probs mate, I was being a little tongue in cheek! ?

See Klopp is getting sacked next!


10.) 27 Aug 2023 17:29:17
Sussex, you don't need a pipe mate, you're cooked enough by the sounds of it. WTF did you just prattle on about? ??.


11.) 27 Aug 2023 17:31:28
we have been in the doldrums for years we have accepted mediocrity as Arsenal fans. Almost two decades without a league title. Where is the urgency? why must we accept mediocrity or is that our new reality? should we be satisfied with top four and the odd title charge once every ten seasons?

{Ed014's Note - no offence mate but if you’re missing what has been happening under Arteta then you’re doomed to be miserable for quite some time.


12.) 27 Aug 2023 17:57:34
14, don't you effing start with that prophecy sh*te ?.

{Ed014's Note - I could have said for eternity ?‍♂️?


13.) 27 Aug 2023 18:39:37
And away.


14.) 27 Aug 2023 18:44:20
I love Bob!


 

 

28 Jan 2022 09:43:14
Been long since I posted here. Hope everyone is doing fine.

I am slightly pleased with the progress we have made. I feel we have been a bit unlucky in some games-we should have beaten Manchester city who are the best team in the league now.

I think we can clinch the fourth spot if we sign a striker and a midfielder.

Why is Edu not addressing this glaring issues? I am just confounded. Wasn't Edu brought in so that we move our focus away from the European market and to the South American one? why aren't we signing players from South America?

I thought the model was; sign cheap south American gems, polish them and then resell them for a higher price.

Why is Edu trying to sign deadwood from Juventus? It is always a bad idea to sign the deadwood of big teams because you are trying to compete with them. How can you compete with a team when you are signing their deadwood?

Edu needs to pull up his socks. This transfer window has been an disaster from him.

punani gooner

1.) 28 Jan 2022 17:04:15
I read a report that Tim Lewis is having quite an impact in the boardroom. I wonder if he was instrumental in blocking the 18 months loan recently?


2.) 28 Jan 2022 18:03:49
Martin Lewis would have been a better appointment Sally ?????.


3.) 28 Jan 2022 18:34:41
Or Leona Lewis 62?


4.) 28 Jan 2022 19:17:34
Yes Sally or maybe Huey Lewis, now that would be news ????.


5.) 28 Jan 2022 19:28:46
Or you could call the professionals.

Lewis Collins.


6.) 28 Jan 2022 20:20:41
Deniece Lewis?


7.) 28 Jan 2022 21:25:09
Lewis Hamilton would certainly get things moving ????.


8.) 29 Jan 2022 07:41:33
Carl Lewis would speed things up for sure in his sprinter van.


 

 

06 Dec 2021 23:07:06
Arteta should have seen sacked a long time ago. We are dreadful and impotent going forward. Two years into his reign and we still have problems creating chances consistency.

Westham will; turn us over even with their injuries. It is going to get ugly.

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18 Oct 2021 22:21:18
Hello gooners,

I was very optimistic after the Tottenham game. Thought we had turned around the corner, but sadly it is nothing but a mirage. We are so inconsistent. One week we seem to be world beaters, then the other week we play like a local pub team.

Why is this? I have a theory. I think it is to do with Arteta's rigid interpretation of positional play. Positional play when it clicks can produce devastating results like how it happened at Barcelona for guardiola, but it needs the right players. It has to be precise and to the tee. Does Arsenal have the players that can play that way? I don't think so.

Arteta's system is so rigid. That is why we don't create so many chances. Our xg is very low. The fact that he is not willing to adapt to the players at his disposal, is a sign that he is not a good coach.

The sooner he goes the better. I don't see us improving.

punani gooner

1.) 19 Oct 2021 13:21:27
The reason we was good against spurs was because they never bothered pressing it tracking back nothing to do with arteta.


2.) 19 Oct 2021 22:34:54
fair point mate, I remember the likes of dele alli and Ndombele just standing around doing nothing.

{Ed014's Note - even Nuno admitted his tactics/plan was woeful


3.) 19 Oct 2021 22:38:04
That’s the sad thing - he can’t manage big players but can’t get the youthful team to press

City have a bit of a rigid system by all accounts. Arteta seizes on that but completely misses the energy and work rate and creativity required to deliver such a performance. NLD showed we can do it if it’s important. The boss clearly doesn’t see it as important in every game. It’s second to tinkering and not reacting to how a game is going in flight.


 

 

 

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03 Aug 2020 20:28:10
D16.i have noticed that too, it is so worrying to have our deals being driven by agents. if Edu and raul can only do recruitment only through agents, they should both be fired.

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16 Jan 2019 12:56:30
It is not a rumuor gunner. The very reliable honigstein and ornstein are reporting it. It is happening, sven is leaving.

The implications are horifying. How will Arsenal get back to the top when we let go off the best scout in the world and have no money to spend?

I am afraid we will go downhill from here unless we find an equally capable replacement.

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15 Jan 2019 23:36:24
Gunner ornstein is reporting it too and i am afraid it is happening.

Of all the guys who gazidis employed before he left, it is sven i have been most impressed with. Apparently there is is power struggle between raul and sven. If i was Arsenal, i would pick sven. This man has contacts even as far as japan, has strong connections in the german and french markets which produce many talents, why lose him when we don't have much cash and we don't want to migrate from our self sustaining policy? Why?

It is chaotic at arsenal and i am really unhappy with the direction sanllehi is taking arsenal.

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23 May 2018 00:03:00
Sanogo am still getting over guardiola to city 😩.

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23 May 2018 00:00:53
SinGooner will get behind the team. I am a fan first of all. I hope Emery proves me wrong. I'll be over the moon if we won the league or the champions league in the next 2-3 years. It is just that i have my doubts is all but for sure i'll get behind the team and support the boys.

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08 Jan 2024 19:33:05
Sussex mate, City spent a lot but they also sell well. They have a lower net spend than Arsenalthis season, and they paid less for doku than Arsenal did for Havertz. So how do you expect to compete with a team like City that sells and buys better than Arsenal while having a better manager at the same time? It is a tall order.

I also said that he should be sacked if he does not win a trophy. He has had almost five years and that is long enough to deliver a meaningful trophy. if he does not win anything this season, how much more time do you think he should be given?

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08 Jan 2024 14:07:04
malaga, I have always had my reservations about Arteta but I am not demanding that he is sacked now. I am only saying that he should be dismissed if he doesn't win a trophy at the end of the season.

Tactically though, I have always had my reservations about him. Arteta is not the prince that was promised. If you watched the game last night, you could see that Arteta could not respond to Klopp's tactical tweaks and that has been a recurring theme in his managerial stint at Arsenal; An inability to make tactical tweaks in-game.

we can all recall Arteta playing holding while having a high line toward the end of last season. He rectified that mistake only after the league was already gone. he is not proactive tactically and everything falls apart if he gets a couple of injuries. Compare that, with the likes of Klopp and Guardiola, who always adapt and innovate. You can tell that Arteta is a tier below them.

sadly though, there isn't an elite manager out there to replace him for now. Maybe some will become available in the summer.


should we just keep 'trusting the process' with no objectives at the end of it? Doesn't the club have targets?

almost 5 years into Arteta's tenure, millions were spent and we are yet to win a meaningful trophy. Klopp won the Champions League and the Premier League in his fourth full season while having spent half of what Arteta spent. To whom much is given, much is expected. Arteta has spent a lot and we expect him to deliver. I did not agree with Arsenal signing Havertz but I went along with it provided that Arsenal wins a trophy. Does it look like we will win anything?

I can guarantee you that Arsenal will go trophyless at the end of the season. If you look at the underlying numbers, Arsenal is resolutely defensively but average going forward. That won't win you trophies.

let us see where we will be at the end of the season but the club must have targets and heads must roll if they aren't met. we stuck with Wenger for too long to the detriment of the club. It must not be repeated.

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27 Aug 2023 17:31:28
we have been in the doldrums for years we have accepted mediocrity as Arsenal fans. Almost two decades without a league title. Where is the urgency? why must we accept mediocrity or is that our new reality? should we be satisfied with top four and the odd title charge once every ten seasons?

punani gooner

{Ed014's Note - no offence mate but if you’re missing what has been happening under Arteta then you’re doomed to be miserable for quite some time.


 

 

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19 Oct 2021 22:34:54
fair point mate, I remember the likes of dele alli and Ndombele just standing around doing nothing.

punani gooner

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18 Oct 2021 22:21:53
Arteta needs to go. I have had enough.

punani gooner