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20 Aug 2017 21:22:25
We are not going to win anything because we carry too much deadwood even on our first team. Sorry to say this, the three at back formation does not suit bellerin.

The boy can defend but going forward he is really poor. He can't dribble, he can't cross or even shoot. wenger was right to sacrifice him for the Ox last season. If we play a back four, fine but if we play three at the back the formation does not suit him.

welbeck is another terrible player also. I understand what giroud offers but what does welbeck offer? Nothing. Just runs with no end product. He can't finish and wastes chance after chance. We need to get rid of him.

Both xhaka and ramsey are a liability defensively in the centre of the pitch. They can't play together. We need santi replacement as soon as possible. Never understood why wenger never adressed that position since we collapse every time cazorla gets injured.

In summary all i am saying is we need a centre half, a right wing back someone who can attack and defend, a central midfielder in the mould of cazorla and two wingers if sanchez leaves. Anything short of that, there is no way we are going to challenge for the title.

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20 Aug 2017 21:36:27
We won't challenge for the title, waste of time even talking about it.

20 Aug 2017 22:11:55
Deadwood is such a nasty name.

Just saying.

21 Aug 2017 06:49:08
Bellerin can't defend and offensively his final ball is poor. We need a proper RB that can defend and CB's that are not LB's!

21 Aug 2017 07:43:10
I think your on about jedwood dags.

21 Aug 2017 07:55:36
Oh yeah 😉.

21 Aug 2017 10:27:35
Ah lads, their earning tens of thousands a week I think if you told them theyd earn that but be open to criticism and potentially being labeled deadwood theyd snap your hand off.
Honestly these crusades taken by some people to defend the honour and virtue of some players who barely acknowledge or can relate to our fans and a manager who runs faster than some of our players down the tunnel after a defeat when years ago players earning a fraction wanted to interact with us as often as they could especially away from home is quite baffling.
Not havin a pop at you dags but the hyper sensitivity to anything towards the players or manager that isn't complimentary is just counter productive to raising standards, i'm not saying insult their mothers but theyv a job to do same as the rest of us. RESPONSIBILITY to the jersey AND ACCOUNTABILITY to yourself as a sportsman are sorely lacking at this club and are the chief reasons behind our sorry state.
I mean somebody tell me if Mesut Ozil is hurting as much as the guy in the stands at Stoke on Saturday.

21 Aug 2017 10:55:42
100% Agree Shambo, give me 80 big ones a week and i will take all the abuse you want to give me. Rotten tomatoes as well.

21 Aug 2017 11:01:35
The fact remains shambo the correct way to describe those individuals is surplus to requirements or no longer needed etc. Deadwood is much the same as piece of s**t or less than human which is not the case. And why people fixate on what players get paid is beyond me. And having an attitude as to them getting paid lots makes it all ok and they should then take the name calling is moronic. I'm sure it was only the other day you were on you high horse about been mr constructive and you don't resort to name calling. Yet another poster who can't remember what he posts from day to day and just argues the toss for the sake of looking like he knows what the score is🙄.

21 Aug 2017 12:12:49
There you go again sano, this is an arsenal site about arsenal, not individuals. You just don't like it when people have a different opinion to you, if they do like lanesra, you have to make it personal. No need.

21 Aug 2017 12:33:15
Dags the dictionary description of dead wood is. Branches or limbs that are of no use that need pruning. Perfect description, when you look ar it like that. Lol.

21 Aug 2017 13:35:13
Only takes one loss before we start acting like animals. Never change, Arsenal fans.

21 Aug 2017 13:35:42
It's all about opinion's mate.

To me, if they have wore an Arsenal shirt, be it a regular or benchwarmer, than they possibly deserve some respect.

The likes of Nasri and Adebayor I have no problem if you refer to them as deadwood, as they were money grabbing mercenaries, but the current "Deadwood" are the likes of Perez, Chambers, Debuchy, Jenkinson, and even Cazorla, who I don't think deserve to be called deadwood.

But hey, just my opinion.

21 Aug 2017 13:43:33
Getting bored of it are we steve. I though this was an arsenal site for arsenal fans/ supporters but it appears I'm wrong on that front as well. To be fair I welcome the banter from fans of a rival team as long as their not pretending to be Arsenal supporters.

21 Aug 2017 14:18:19
It takes one loss for the storm crows and the I told you Arsenal are naff brigade come out wearing thier Wenger out banners.

21 Aug 2017 17:12:30
The expression dead wood simply means people or things that are no longer useful and I fail to see why people are offended by the use of such an expression which clearly applies to some of our players; Debuchy, Jenkinson, Gibbs, Perez, Akpom, etc. None of which are useful to the club.

{Ed002's Note - It is very offensive.}

21 Aug 2017 17:39:35
Ed002 - I think we will have to beg to differ, although it's not an expression I would use, I don't find it offensive, as it merely refers to people or in this case players that are no longer useful. Of course one must not take the actual words literally, which I'm sure nobody with an ounce of intelligent does.

{Ed002's Note - Players and clubs absolutely hate the term being used.}

21 Aug 2017 20:33:57
I think people forget how good you have to be just to play in the top 2 leagues in this country. People go on like it's ten a penny to play for an elite club.

21 Aug 2017 21:12:10
RG if friends stated referring to you as deadwood would you be flatted or offend? Of course it's a derogatory comment and when used about people who simply despite their best efforts haven't quite made the level required is unnecessary and undeserved.
There is never a good reason to be rude about people who do all they can even if that sometimes isn't quite enough.

21 Aug 2017 21:35:33
Well said G62.



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