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27 Jul 2017 11:26:22
Its no secret Wenger is a massive admirer of Benzema and ed 002 recently posted there may be an option to buy this summer with Real looking to make more funds available alongside those made from the sales of Danilo and Morata to secure Mbappe from Monaco who are not short of money right now and can drive the price up as they wish.
My question is whether anyone of you is aware of whether Madrid has now contacted previously interested parties of the availability of Benzema and whether we are one of those parties they no doubt would like to see enter into a bidding war to drive up the price?
Also do you believe we can put the Lemar chase behind us now and whether we are really interested in a serious bid for a proper holding midfielder as has been reported with the Carvalho / Seri rumours.
1.) 27 Jul 2017 12:31:45
Is Seri a holding midfielder? Would love for us to get a new defensive minded mid, for me Coquelin can't do the job.
2.) 27 Jul 2017 14:09:27
I was under the impression that Zidane liked Benzema and wanted him to stay, but if they're after Mbappe he seems the most natural choice to sell as he'd be the most likely to lose his place. I don't think we'll be doing the bidding though. Most likely to end up at PSG if I were to guess.
3.) 27 Jul 2017 11:32:23
Mate, ed002 has already discussed this, don't confuse it.
4.) 27 Jul 2017 17:15:07
Summer just wouldn't be summer without a bbq and the Arsenal Sumner transfer window wouldn't be complete without a good old Benzema rumour :-)
5.) 27 Jul 2017 18:46:28
£62m for a 29 year old?
No thanks.
6.) 27 Jul 2017 18:54:50
Yeah agree with that Dags.
7.) 27 Jul 2017 20:41:34
Is that Sanchez your taking about Dags :-)
8.) 28 Jul 2017 03:56:18
I actually just liked a Lanesra comment.
23 Jul 2017 09:56:06
Lots of conflicting info out there at the moment and its hard to siphon through the bs with regards to our club.
Someone is showing serious interest in Sanchez one minute, the next Wenger is moving to say he's going nowhere. Next minute he's looking for one hundred thousand per week extra on top of the already obscene amount he's been quoted as seeking and then finally its reported he was never in discussions and is still in Chile. I mean how do you begin to believe any of it, not least Wengers comments of him not being sold to anyone with his track record in the past.
Ox is similar, he's moving to Liverpool, he's moving to city (to presumably play carling cup) or he's moving to chelsea to warm their bench.
So ed 002 I have a different question for you and its this; allowing for the fact that vermin agents will leak misinfo and certain clubs like ourselves are wide open to click bait and hysteria surrounding fake transfer news, how is it that sports journalists can continue to operate at this level whereby there no longer has to be a link between the integrity of signing their name off on something and legitimate honest reporting not centred around insighting the masses of a certain club and absolute downright lies?
The media label it silly season and they should know, theyv made it so. I get the competitivness between rival outlets and the almost drug addict need they have to have an 'exclusive' but there's none of them with a shred of credibility at this stage, how has this replaced good journalism and if people like you and the other eds can relay sound information, even if it doesn't always develop into signed contracts at the end, then why can't these absolute frauds do their jobs and hope that their work is good enough to stand up on its own instead of all this contrived bullshit and double meaning headlines with nothing relevant in the article. Sick of it.
{Ed002's Note - It is a good question to ask and perhaps I can offer an example of "unsubstantiated journalism" this morning.
The true sports journalist is still out there - they will have good relationships with certain clubs and with many of the intermediaries (agents/representatives) that there are out there. Often they will get on well with certain players. These folks will not always get it right, but they should be able to more often than not confirm where there is interest in players and broadly what progress is being made toward agreeing any sort of contract that can see a transfer happen. However, with the world changing due to social media, Twitter, Blogs, Facebook and a whole host of new and often transient web sites that provide up to the minute breaking news and blow-by-blow accounts. The true sports journalist will take this with a pinch of salt, but others (I would never use the term but oft referred to as the writers of “lazy journalism†do). And the example is indeed Arsenal related (well sort of). A player who Arsenal were expected to make an offer for this summer, Naby Keita, has been reported as being subject to an agreement to join Liverpool for £74.5M overnight Friday/Saturday with the news breaking last night. The report has been picked up and is being repeated from the original source (Winner Sports) with compelling headlines from the Star and the Express. I am not a reader of the papers, well not the English press, and I had not heard of Winner Sports. So a quick check of their web site and it seems to provide links to gambling we sites, which seemed odd - just as odd as providing a price in GBP as opposed to Euros. So, where are they based? A quick check of their address of "22 Fleet St London EC4Y 1AA" (ignoring their @gmail.com" contact address) and suddenly there is a hint: Ye Olde Cock Tavern on Fleet Street – how apt. As an aside Arsenal don’t see the value in Naby Keita at anything like the figures being thrown around.
So as you suggest, there is a blight out there and this blight exists with the new style of reporting that is coming out of social media – the purpose of which really seems to be a place where you can keep in contact with old school chums, chaps you were incarcerated with and sharing photographs of your breakfast. Many football supporters are desperate for transfer news and will follow the slightest hint of their club buying a player like lemmings, believing every word they read. Where rumours persist of a player potentially leaving the club we get screams of “unsellableâ€, “he’s worth £100M†and “let him rot in the reservesâ€.
So what you need to do is find the remaining true sports journalists who won’t give blow-by-blow accounts but will be able to tell you, in most cases, where there is interest in a player. They won’t always be right, they won’t always have the sensational headlines; but they do offer up decent information.}
1.) 23 Jul 2017 10:39:46
Outstanding reply Ed.
2.) 23 Jul 2017 11:18:37
Which is why this site is my first stop each morning and why I particularly enjoy reading through the other clubs pages.
To be honest i'm not obsessed with my football club spending obscene amounts of money on players just for the sake of it, what concerns me more, and has done for years is the day to day management of this club and how slow they seem to be with identifying and dealing with any problems unless money related, but that's a whole other conversation with many talking points.
I get that there are and have to be some good writers and reporter's out there who live off their reputation and integrity in order to get where they are or want to be but it seems so many now refer to unsubstantiated or second hand accounts from sources with agendas that don't necessarily lend themselves to honest reporting. if i'm honest it seems editors are encouraging this war of misinformation and sensationalism to just purely drive whatever medium it is their peddling it through and its creating an unhealthy understanding and realism for anyone willing to buy into and then debate it, I sense youv had a few of these debates yourself when having to answer to idiots second guessing things you or other eds have been good enough to relay.
Would you and your fellow eds not be better served writing your pieces in another form that is more informative than responsive to the likes of myself and fellow readers whereby youd be less susceptible to the opinion of ungrateful idiots deliberately trying to provoke a reaction and where you could gain a larger following? . as I've noticed before some bloke has even dedicated a facebook page in your honour previously. just a thought as this site must be time consuming as it is so would another platform not serve you eds better to get the points across and in turn create a base of loyal readers and followers as opposed to these trolls who only need one second to have the info were looking to hear restricted? . not trying to do away with the site we all love so if you get what i'm asking then alternatively do any of you write elsewhere in detail?
{Ed002's Note - I really don't want to get into answering such questions. I had forgotten about the Facebook page.}
3.) 23 Jul 2017 12:57:06
Great question and great answer.
Well done Shambo and Ed002.
4.) 23 Jul 2017 13:16:05
Wonderfully inciteful read Ed! I don't suppose you would be inclined to recommend any reputable journalists, who are actually worth the time of reading? Thanks.
{Ed002's Note - My great buddy Greg Palast is certainly a reputable journalist.}
5.) 23 Jul 2017 14:55:14
cool, i will keep an eye out for his articles, he writes for the guardian?
{Ed002's Note - He certainly used to - and Newsnighte - and some great books. Always buy the English versions as the US versions are censored.}
6.) 23 Jul 2017 15:17:28
cheers ed, i will have a look for them.
7.) 23 Jul 2017 15:42:35
So, on the back of the above - any truth in the Marco Asensio interest from us and potential big bud or just paper trash again.
{Ed002's Note - It is not new that Arsenal are keen on Marco Asensio but interested sides have been told he is not for sale - although there is a chance he may be heading elsewhere.}
8.) 23 Jul 2017 16:41:57
Thank you Ed.
9.) 23 Jul 2017 18:21:22
Does this mean as in Madrid would consider using him as a bargaining chip in exchange for someone like Dybala or lewandowski ed?
{Ed002's Note - Not them but that is a question they need to think about.}
10.) 23 Jul 2017 20:23:08
Ah, iv got you ed. were talking about Mbappe to Real with Asencio plus 70M to Monaco, and Real will then except our 70M bid for Benzema, it will just be a matter of agreeing personal terms and then offloading Gibbs, Chambers, Debuchy, Walcott, Giroud for the inevitable arrival of Mahrez as a second option to Lemar who won't be sold. Gotcha.
{Ed002's Note - I don't know - perhaps the "other" page.}
11.) 23 Jul 2017 20:53:45
Thank you ed, lovin your work.
12.) 24 Jul 2017 16:26:38
Ha ha. the Cock Tavern on Fleet Street is one of my lunch time locals. next time i'm in i will look out for the 'Winner sports' table! To be honest all the lies don't really matter when you realize its just the football pages, but the real worry is that those same lying scum are also doing it on their front pages.
13.) 25 Jul 2017 07:51:25
@ED002 the only Greg Palast I can find is a US political/ investigative journalist.
{Ed002's Note - Yep.}
21 Jul 2017 15:26:38
Long time reader and fan of the site. Iv been hoping for a run down from the eds, particularly ed 002, on the current state of play in our club regarding the inevitable outgoings and possibility of further recruitment.
Unfortunately everything seems quite with few responses everywhere except for the Chelsea, Everton, Liverpool and Man Utd pages.
I appreciate the eds have more on their plate than repeating old news or being badgered for news where there isn't any, especially on pages where iv read certain eds have long since given up taking their time tp share due to idiots looking to deliberately sabotage it for everyone else, but surely there must be some knowledge of the potential departures of Gibbs, Chambers, Walcott, Debouchey, Ospina, Walcott and of course the futures of Sanchez, Ox and Giroud?
I read every other clubs pages also as i'm intrigued by what the eds share, and I might be snatching at straws but could I please ask ed 002 if he could elaborate on his statement on Evertons page today where he commented on the potential knock on effect a Giroud/ Gilfi arrival could have where you stated that Arsenal are currently exploring the idea or tracking another striker. I ask because our well documented pursuit of lemar and mahrez is still in the works and this much activity from Wenger would actually be very encouraging even. if it were not to fully develop as yhe club hopes, even if this striker target were only secondary to lacazette it still shows Wenger is willing to risk cutting loose a few who have had their chances in favour of potential risks, its what we need to freshen things up regardless.
Thanks to all the eds and I hope someone can find the time to shed some light on where we are at at this moment. Thanks again.
{Ed002's Note - It is neither of those two - taht is all of the elaboration I will give at this time.}
1.) 21 Jul 2017 16:47:34
Thanks for taking the time to read the lengthy post and replying ed 002, I guess well have to watch this space.
2.) 21 Jul 2017 21:24:29
Interesting from ed002 it looks like we are looking at someone else other than mahrez and lemar, would it be mbappe by any chance? we can only hope.
3.) 21 Jul 2017 21:49:23
Look on the euro page.
4.) 21 Jul 2017 21:59:12
Think about Wengers style Jelfy, i'd imagine its a secondary striker in the 15-20m bracket or maybe, with our current situation, a player exchange involving sanchez potential move to city and Iheanacho, or the Oxs proposed move to Liverpool and Sturridge who we know Wenger is a fan of. Either way its going to be a proven PL striker he's not going to risk the balance completely. notice how I omitted the fantasy that was Aguero joining in exchange for Sanchez. 😂.
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27 aug 2017 23:59:49
today we had:
a manager whos a part of this club 20 years who calls all the shots and who subsequently should know how best to set us up and prepare against a club and ground he should know as well as anyone.
we had a squad consisting of roughly 15 players who have been capped at snr international level by their countries, and these countries aren't honduras, some of these players have won world cups and confed cups and copa america medals with these countries.
this squads wage bill is the second or third highest in this league and top ten in europe. this same squad and manager were whalloped here after a mere 45 mins last season.
this same squad and manager were coming into a consecutive away fixture having tasted defeat only last saturday in a lacklustre display. this clubs chief exec issued the words 'catylist for change' only two months ago in relation to how we would be conducting ourselves going forwards.
this football team and manager conspired to not hit karius's gloves once with a football in 96 mins of football today.
somebody explain this to me. somebody explain to me how thierry henry is saying in a sky sports studio post match that he wanted to leave halfway through this game and that as an arsenal man he cannot relate to this team.
someone explain to me where all the defenders of arsene wengers fragile disposition and integrity are? where are you all boys? let's talk it out.
{Ed033's Note - it's a funny old game.
20 Aug 2017 00:55:11
Lads,
Wenger is taking off the players he signed that were supposed to improve us.
Enough said.
1.) 20 Aug 2017 02:14:13
Laca didn't get the service and dropped too deep when he should be on the last defender and kol should not be playing in the back three. He came as a left back, left wing back and wenger played right footed bellarin there. We had center backs available and didn't play them. Ludicrous.
2.) 20 Aug 2017 06:39:25
Steve
We have had many disagreements. But even I can't defend our teams set up.
I'm gutted.
We are at the start of the season, and we can't even play players in the right position.
I don't know who is to blame,
I was told last night that wenger has to get the wage bill down to offer, the money that is going to be offered to Sanchez / ozil .
All I can say is that we have know leadership. we have centre backs that wenger has bought . And will not play.
It's laughable that we sell a centre back
Our great club is in chaos.
3.) 20 Aug 2017 07:32:15
Spot on Welshgooner. See my comments above. I Harte to say it, but Wenger needs to go. We are entering the season in complete and utter disarray. If he has his badges let Henry manage alonsgside Bould. It can't be worse than the nonsense I witnessed yesterday.
4.) 20 Aug 2017 08:16:28
Bould would be the first to go, no passion nothing on the bench, I'm sure at times he sleeps, he can't even be bothered to throw a bottle off water,
NEEDS. THE. SACK.
5.) 20 Aug 2017 08:54:49
Welshy, Bould is controlled by Wenger, as he likes yes men and Bould collects his no doubt substantial salary. Do you think for one moment Bould would allow Arsenal's defensive play to be as it is, if he were given a free reign?
6.) 20 Aug 2017 08:56:34
Thats a great point made lads, wenger is selling cbs and playing lbs as the chief cb in a three man defense.
Again, I hate to single guys out but why remove kolacinac and lacazette and allow ramsey 90 mins.
Walcott and Iwobi looked like they had no direction when coming on.
Inept throughout and it seems like groundhog day.
All it takes is one bright piece of play and determined run in behind and were a beaten team and its getting old now.
Where are our quick, incisive attacks with hard runs in behind? . their in the past because Wenger promotes lateral and sideways passes until the opposition has ten men behind the ball!
15 Aug 2017 09:36:28
Morning all and eds,
Well our season is underway and off to a good, if unconvincing start. Truth be told defensively and not just in personnel, but structuring and organisation wise, the same old problems and lack of attention seem to have not been addressed.
It doesn't matter who the lineup is players need to be prepared and conform to certain tactics and find in-game solutions to counter act an opponents threat.
Wenger does not subscribe to the idea of shutting down even the potential threats of our opposition.
he's in the league twenty years and has seen some players whole careers come and go yet in the case of a player like Vardy, who he even identified as recruiting and subsequently bid for, he can't prevent this guy from scoring twice to increase his already impressive recent scoring history against us.
And this is why we will not and cannot win a Premier League title under this methodology. The Bournemouth game away last year is a prime example also. You have to match up against your opponents and this means their hunger and desire as well and all too often players such as ozil are found wanting in this regard and are left shell shocked aa we fall two or even three goals behind.
Then when the inevitable lull or tempo decreases in games such as these you will see Arsenal appear to come on strong for the last 15mins when really its a case of them having conserved energy by not matching the opponents running or energy in the first instance.
This can be addressed on the training ground, which hasn't and won't be, or it can be addressed in the signing of defensive players whose leadership ties in with their ability.
Whats wrong with a player dishing out a rollicking to team mates when momentum is going against you and concentration is needed as a unit to prevent the inevitable concession before it happens.
So often Arsenal have near misses from shambolic defending but even, and especially, the likes of Koscielny will simple amble out, head down and simply wait for Cechs kick out. This is a far cry from Adam's, Keown, Campbell, Gilberto and Vieira. Even Lauren would lose his rubbish at rb when needed.
Im not one for spending obscene amounts for overrated players with inflated transfer fees but if we want to ACTUALLY contest or WIN the PL in its current state then we need to go and sign another quality, aggressive and vocal CB, CDM and we need to stop putting square pegs in round holes and stunting players progression and form like in the case of the Ox and now Rob Holding.
Weve signed two excellent players but we need to offload the well documented players aswel as Sanchez and Ozil as neither really believe in the project anymore and will only impede us until their inevitable departures anyway.
There is very little between us and Chelsea on recent head to heads, not to mention they are champions, yet they are willing to spend and sign and are pursuing big signings because they know City and Utd are threats this year.
Apply this logically to what we are doing and where we are at this moment and how can you conceive anything other than yet another 4th place scrap at best as we have less players in this squad committed to or who believe in the cause than ever before.
I hope Wenger is actually aware that we are still very short and is waiting on some movement around him at other clubs before making moves because as it stands we are looking at more of the same for the next two years at the very least.
1.) 15 Aug 2017 10:25:05
When are fans going to realise, Wenger doesn't do players that have character and fight in them.
He doesn't want any players that will undermine him.
2.) 15 Aug 2017 10:34:18
After that uplifting post I'm really looking forward to the rest of the season. 😉😂😂😂.
3.) 15 Aug 2017 10:49:06
Stoner mate, it's the same old problem.
We have no plan in the transfer window.
Any other manager would give their CEO a list of players and tell them to get them.
Wenger wants to control everything and is given the freedom to do so.
Where's the change Ivan Gazidas was talking about.
Nothing has changed.
4.) 15 Aug 2017 11:03:28
You don't ever knowingly invest money or your time in a player who could undermine you or hurt the unity of the squad Malaga but he always seems to sign players with a passive mentality, combine that with the fact he never holds the players accountable, always focusing on refs, opponents or bad luck as in the draw or injuries. In this process he's also deflecting responsibility and accountability from himself also and its sent a bad message within our ranks for years now.
If I examine Theo Walcott for instance, who has spent his career under Wenger, I hear a lot of soundbites and catchphrases but rarely do I see him represent those words on the pitch. His best form is usually aug til oct when he feels his place is in jeopardy and he has to step up, which he always does and then always retreats back into anonymity as the season progresses and not only is this tolerated by the coaching staff its been rewarded to the point of salary over 110,000 per week so now we can't sell him because nobody else would pay him half that.
We have a lot to be proud of in how AW conducts himself and the integrity he shows but these are the core issues here and there is a huge want when it comes to the demands he puts on players and as a byproduct, the ones they put on themselves between their own ears before they tog out.
Stoner, it is what it is bro. Manage our expectations realistically and we can't be dissatisfied or angry at the outcome.
5.) 15 Aug 2017 11:07:17
If you look at Costa, bad egg that he is, he still won a league last year and his teammates speak highly of him. We lack these sorts and the 'us vs every one' attitude and mentality.
6.) 15 Aug 2017 11:56:09
Shambo/ Malaga,
I'm not disagreeing with you guys but we know what it is as it happens so often. We make two great signings then shy away from making the real killer ones.
It does drive me nuts but I'm kind of immune to it now and just look forward to the season.
He will go eventually and maybe then we'll get some true excitement back.
7.) 15 Aug 2017 12:50:52
I make you right Stoner, the club is treading water and we have no choice but to do the same.
How things could or should be is irrelevant they are what they are and under Arsene and are extremely unlikely to change.
Arsenal football club are huge and the potential of the club to have a very competitive team is huge too it's only the ambitions of those currently making the decisions that's holding us back but it won't always be like that.
But until change comes" come on the Arsenal " and " bring on the europa league" says me, we can really challenge for that.
8.) 15 Aug 2017 14:14:33
John I know you are all in for the Europa cup, but how about all those fans that have travelled Europe and pay the highest season ticket prices in the world, how do you think they feel?
I'd say they feel mugged off.
9.) 15 Aug 2017 16:15:29
Hi Mark mate, personally I would rather travel and watch us try and win the europa league than simply make up the numbers in the champions league.
I personally have no apatite for yet another last 16 champions league exit, 8 on the bounce is quite enough for me, but the europa has my interest and while I'm not saying I will be missing a few days work to travel to Bulgaria or anywhere a short hop to Holland Belgium or France isn't out the question for me if I think we will play a side worthy of the club and competition.
To the champions league we are what Sunderland and Newcastle are to the premier league (usually take part but seldom do anything worthy of getting excited about) the europa offers us the chance to play at being Real Bayern Barcelona for a season and why not i ask?
As a club we are potentially big boys but currently we are more pretenders than contenders when it comes to big boys competitions, horses for courses mate and as we stand we are europa league contenders champions league pretenders whether we want to admit it or not that is where we are.
It's not about putting the club down its about accepting things for what they are at this moment in time.
10.) 15 Aug 2017 20:15:15
Gunner I can see that you are trying to set realistic targets and that's ok. The problem comes when them targets aren't reached. Do we lower our sights again or should we aim as high as possible to make us get better. It doesn't matter a jot really what we all think, the club set the ambition and there isn't much we can do.
11.) 15 Aug 2017 21:12:54
Exactly Steve but most people know in their heart of hearts we won't be champions this season or any time soon, so you can only look at what is possible under the current circumstances mate, as we stand the Europa league is doable for this current Arsenal set up imo.
12.) 15 Aug 2017 21:42:05
I don't think gunner, anyone should aim lower, whatever. People haven't bought tickets to watch us lose, they bought them in expectation of winning the league and most won't be happy if we don't. The Europa league is within our compass and it will be viewed another failure of we bomb. I don't think we will win the league but I don't find that acceptable for this club. It has to be a goal.
13.) 15 Aug 2017 22:03:20
Steve have Everton fans bought tickets excepting to win the league ? I doubt it mate but they do want Everton to win as many matches as possible.
My 2 top tips for the season?
1 Utd will be champions
2 there will only be an absolute maximum of 3pts between Everton and Arsenal after 38 games. I will be quite happy for anyone to remind of both these tips at the end of the season.
14.) 16 Aug 2017 09:10:11
You lot are the most pessimistic and negative fans I've ever heard. Seriously the season has just started we have the maximum points we can have and you lot are acting like it's all doom and gloom. We've just signed a £50million striker and got an absolute tank for nothing, both look like decent signings, we have a very good squad and we don't know what's going on transfer wise behind closed doors.
You guys need to stop moaning and get behind the team, be optimistic and hopeful of what's ahead.
15.) 16 Aug 2017 09:57:56
ECG I think most fans lost faith in the team and management, as well as they lost their patients too. Yes we brought in a decent players, but there is a big problem at the back need addressing as well as a CDM needed for the team. We have been crying out loud for a beast at the back to play alongside kos and now mustafi, I doubt we will be biying a CB this year, However I feel arsene has something up his sleeves. Also I think the fans are frustrated for the lack of tying up players and letting them go to the last year of their contacts. I'm sure these fans wanted the arsenal to be the best in the world.
16.) 16 Aug 2017 12:50:23
Okay but can you name said player?
Would he come in a instantly be a hit in the premier league? Is he available?
Personally don't think there are many 'beast' type centre backs out there anymore, as for will they improve us or be a hit in the prem it's really hard to tell. Look at Falcao and Di Maria. Two top players both couldn't make it in the premier league, just our style and systems don't always suit certain players (personally think di Maria would have been a success if he had not been playing in such a negative and defensive system)
I would welcome us buying a centre back, think Van Dijk would be incredible, but is he out of reach? By the looks it he wants Liverpool. Think we missed a trick last season with Ashley Williams, 12mil was a bargain.
As for the defensive mid, it has been a position we needed but do we need it with the 3-5-2 formation? I don't think so, I think Ramsey and Xhaka will do well, it also gives Ramsey the freedom he needs.
we could do with a midfeilder to replace cazorla though or compete with ramsey and Xhaka for those places, would like to see seri but like before we can't say he will be a success
But I do think we will sign one more, so let's wait and see and hope for a decent season.
31 Jul 2017 16:18:24
I know the transfer window still has a month left, but league commencements are right upon us now and it seems this club and its manager are dragging their feet as always in relation to being ready to contest a league from the get go.
The French league gets underway with Monaco facing Toulouse this Friday. My question to any of the informed eds is basically the same as iv asked recently and its whether you are aware of Arsenal showing a legitimate, determined effort to strike realistic deals with the respective clubs in relation to, specifically, Lemar, Seri or Benzema?
I'm growing tired of what seems like deliberate posturing and half hearted/ incompetent approaches more as a PR stunt to cover up for their actual reluctance to address glaring issues within this squad than genuine concerted efforts to strengthen.
I understand fully the reality that most clubs are under no obligation to sell and that the processes can be lengthy and difficult at the best of times but this club has a colourful recent history of incompetence when failing to progress past initial enquiry for players and then tabling bids that are insulting to the selling clubs and also make a player who may have been open to the mover question our sincerity or desire to get his signature.
Higuain, Mata, Suarez, Kante, Gary Cahill. these are only some names where they have dropped the ball for players whose value rose two and three fold only a season or two after we showed lukewarm interest and put in derisory offers.
Basically eds are we looking at our squad for this season right now?
26 Jul 2017 10:20:49
Morning all,
Ed 002, just wondering if you are aware of the figure Monaco have quoted Lemar at and whether you believe they are realistically open to negotiating on it or is it purely an unrealistic amount that obviously would not be met this window.
Also if you can, could you let us know if the Benzema interest could materialize into an actual serious bid. I know you don't like speculating but from what you know, and in your opinion do you think Arsenal FC have the intent to sign both Lemar and Benzema.
With the obvious impending departure of Sanchez, to then bring in Kolinasic, Lacazette, Lemar and Benzema would be a phenominal transfer window and massive statement and I believe would make us a huge threat this season.
Of course if there is no real intent to make this happen and its the usual huff and puff we've become accustomed to, and we lose Sanchez or keep him and he sulks, well then we are in for another hit and miss league campaign.
{Ed002's Note - They want at least €80M. Who would this sttement be being made to?}
1.) 26 Jul 2017 10:27:53
he will be in for under 60 million no doubt.
2.) 26 Jul 2017 11:10:25
Why are you so sure derby. I'd love to see lemar and some kind of midfield enforcer to take games by the scruff of the next.
3.) 26 Jul 2017 11:59:47
If we really want him we will pay what it takes if we don't then we look elsewhere. They are the sellers so they name the price, we have the funds to match what they ask so surely it's a simple matter of how much we do or don't want him. Chelsea utd Liverpool city Everton have all paid above the market value for players this summer to get who they wanted, lukaku 75 millions? Way over the odds but no one will care next May if he scores goals and Utd have a good season. It's our chioce stick to our value of a player or get real and pay what it takes. Principles v Success almost you might say.
4.) 26 Jul 2017 14:35:43
D16 all coming together soon mate.
5.) 26 Jul 2017 16:29:13
Applaud your conviction Derby, just hope your source doesn't let us down. You have been saying this for a while so any estimated date on the announcement?
6.) 27 Jul 2017 07:11:09
yes mate tomorrow if not wait longer haha.
31 Aug 2017 20:53:46
If he was a negative influence and under motivated before what's he going to be like now fellas?
I think he's going to force through his move now and Arsenal will come out and say they had no time to replace him that nobody was available.
29 Aug 2017 23:01:28
Theres that 62, coupled with the fact he's brought so many of them in from a young age, secured them big contracts, deflected and taken criticism for them that they actually know no different and don't really want to have to prove themselves to anyone else. Could you imagine where Aaron Ramsey would be after a month with a Klopp, Mourinho or Simione?
. yet Vieira is not offered a role within the club and instead goes to City, Henry is asked to choose between the under 23s and his sky gig. Wenger doesn't like grown men challenging him. So goodbye to you also Mustafi.
27 Aug 2017 21:25:35
Aaron Ramsey being considered anywhere close to being half worthy of an Arsenal shirt is entirely dependant on the others around him bursting their lungs. He gets the ball deep rolls it left or right and jogs up the field to try get on the end of someone elses cut and thrust. Watch him and tell me different.
21 Aug 2017 10:27:35
Ah lads, their earning tens of thousands a week I think if you told them theyd earn that but be open to criticism and potentially being labeled deadwood theyd snap your hand off.
Honestly these crusades taken by some people to defend the honour and virtue of some players who barely acknowledge or can relate to our fans and a manager who runs faster than some of our players down the tunnel after a defeat when years ago players earning a fraction wanted to interact with us as often as they could especially away from home is quite baffling.
Not havin a pop at you dags but the hyper sensitivity to anything towards the players or manager that isn't complimentary is just counter productive to raising standards, i'm not saying insult their mothers but theyv a job to do same as the rest of us. RESPONSIBILITY to the jersey AND ACCOUNTABILITY to yourself as a sportsman are sorely lacking at this club and are the chief reasons behind our sorry state.
I mean somebody tell me if Mesut Ozil is hurting as much as the guy in the stands at Stoke on Saturday.
27 Jul 2017 11:23:17
But can you really believe that Neil if you apply how Arsenal have sold previously in similar circumstances? Wenger NEVER keeps players who he believes are not invested in what he's trying to do within a certain squad. Even Vieira and Henry were sold on for what were modest fees once theyd finally had their heads turned and they were a lot more Arsenal than Alexis is.
Hes going.
There wouldn't be as much interest in Lemar and Benzema were he not, quite simply because you can't play them all.
Im optimistic Wenger may be able to reunite Benzema and Ozil and this is why Ozil will sign a new deal.
I think Giroud has been good value for what we bought him for but he is limited with regards to how we play and lacazettes arrival will limit his influence further still.
I think if we can get decent offers for Walcott, Giroud and Perez then we need to accept and move on, although I am disappointed with the reward Perez has got for what he achieved with limited game time when you consider the understanding Walcott and Ramsey continue to enjoy under the manager.
Alot is yet to happen but Sanchez is gone fellas.
31 Aug 2017 13:19:01
I think so too steve. had he been mid contract and not in his final 11 mths, i'd still consider it good money.
But you know Klopp is going to improve him in ways Wenger didn't and never would have.
31 Aug 2017 12:01:32
Sanogo,
I hear you bro. Maybe I need to step away from my own rigid principles and ideals.
RSharpe,
That post has changed my mood!
I just struggle with the lack of inclusion and the lack of respect I feel as a fan. Even things like the Mbappe interest seems deliberate purely for season ticket renewals.
I see Mahrez is off to Chelsea. Another who wanted us but we wouldn't follow through on. Ah well, heres to getting behind our new manager in 2019!
31 Aug 2017 10:58:06
I am supporting my club.
Supporting its dire need for change by highlighting the utter state of neglect it finds itself in and by not allowing past instances of this neglegence to be disregarded purely for the baseless promise of future glory or 'catylists for change'.
31 Aug 2017 10:37:09
We seem to be on the same page alright Steve. 😂
Sanogo, maybe I don't get it and maybe you dont. Read my posts, there's never any venom or personal slander or name calling aimed at the people ushering our club into a state of rapid decline. I don't incite anyone else to resort to personal attacks either, I merely try to put proven historical acts of the people in charge of this club into context and try rationalise them, quite often the only way I can reconcile this is to surrender to the fact there is gross misconduct and negligence going unpunished and unaddressed at my football club, my football club that is a global powerhouse in the game but acts and operates like a lightweight for reasons I can't understand because they are shrouded in secrecy and a complete lack of transparency. If I were to compare Arsenal FC to another organisation it would be Scientology. Give us all your money, invest in our ideology, but don't question the authority.
I called Stan Kroenke silent and money hungry. Observe him, research his reputaion and how he is revered by the fans of his hockey team and AFL team. Its not up for debate and its not exactly slander.
Ivan Gazidis is a perpetual liar whos chief responsibility seems to be providing smokescreens and false dawns. Again this football club promote forward thinking and the promise for tomorrow or the next game so that we don't examine the past or engage in retrospective critical thinking. Were any of us to have the time to go back over the last dozen or so transfer windows and highlight the consistant inability to push through deals or conduct ourselves credibly well then I think there would honestly be a mass revolt. But who honestly thinks about the 40m plus £1 Suarez bid or turning our noses up at 34M for Higuain who then goes on to sell for double that to Juve two years later, the failure to trigger first option to bring Cesc back because it might 'stunt' Aaron Ramsey? I could go allday.
The first time these things happen you give the benefit of doubt. Its been 12 years of it now lads.
I don't call Wenger names. I respect him as he has merited. He was phenomenal. But he has driven his own agenda into the ground and us along with it and the further we declined the more closed off and rigid he has become. The idea and the approach he is persisting with is like iv said, counter productive at best and grossly negligent at worst, yet his contracts continue to rise and he continues to sign them.
Its my belief that if this false positivity rhetoric had been abandoned after the first 5 years of this carry on then we wouldn't be where we are now. All the WKBs could find their voices to give him the platform to plough on with his own rigid ideals but couldn't take the time to challenge them in a respectful and thought provoking way. And where are we now.
Arsene Wenger hasn't known best in over a decade. He monopolises the decision making processes of this club and acts in nunerous roles, doing none of them to the desired standard that will facilitate progress or meaningful change.
They don't even sigm players to give us a boost or for positivity reasons so don't give me the big spiel about getting behind a idealism that condsiders us fans as insignificant when it comes to their actions.
Life is short, Arsenal at this point in time will make it shorter for you.
Enough is enough now.
31 Aug 2017 09:19:16
Just a question skywalker.
If we all band together with optimism and positivity and hold hands like carebears does this make one difference to the attitides and policies Arsene Wenger implements on behalf of Stan Kroenke?
Does it answer any of the perplexing and frustrating questions that hang over some of the decision making processes that contnue to stunt this club?
The people responsible for promoting and protecting positivity in relation to this football club right now are the silent money hungry owner, lying 'catylist for change' chief exec and deluded closed minded manager.
But you want us to play into their hands and ignore all the gross negligence these people have shown in relation to their roles and the contempt they have shown to us fans who they view as being no more than cattle with cash and credit cards.
Positivity for its sake is one thing but positivity just so you don't have to deal with the problems in this situation is at best counter productive and at worst deliberate PR spinning to ensure the money keeps coming in.
Do yourself a favour, if Arsenal is something you think anout daily and care about, and demand more from your club. Look to get out of it what you invest.
Im all for positivity, let's see some positive proactive, not reactive, action from the clubs figure head and decision maker Arsene Wenger. let's see him back this massive salary up as he's scrutinises inflation and overspending every where else on the game.