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25 Aug 2018 21:32:53
Encouraging signs. The team seems fitter now than they were under wenger. Torreira was excellent when he came on. xhaka, bellerin, mustafi were alll poor as usual.

Bellerin, mustafi, xhaka, ramsey and mhitaryan all need to be replaced. This is the most technically deficient arsenal team in my lifetime.

I reminisce over when we had the best striker in the world in Henry and the best number 10 in berghamp. Every poor touch and every misplaced pass today somehow reminded me of dennis and sadly that is how far we have fallen. we are far off from city and liverpool.

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25 Aug 2018 21:59:05
2 years ago Liverpool and City were far off from City and Liverpool mate, then in came Klopp and Pep but even they needed some time.

25 Aug 2018 22:34:43
Just watched game (obviously knowing result) there are things that are obvious. Some players are not playing the pressing game, i was impressed by myki, Gouendouzi, torreira, auba, lacca and monreal, just because you can see they are trying to press. The problem is you can't press on your own and expect to get results, you need to press in twos and threes. Bellerin was great going forward again but his defending and general play was awful. Ramsey, what position was he playing and did he think he was playing on his own. Still think defensively our problems stem from central midfield and right back leaving mustaffi and papa exposed and they aren't good enough to cover for the lack of protection. Going forward we are ok going back we are in trouble. We are either pressing as a team or we might as well not bother. The cozy club are being stubborn.

25 Aug 2018 23:04:26
Some people are of the view that Bellerin should be tried at the RW position with Litchsteiner playing the RB position. Seems to be a great idea but don't know if it will work.

25 Aug 2018 23:22:30
It would work in some games willy but he lacks trickery. Still worth a try if it gets him away from right back though.

25 Aug 2018 23:46:32
Having watched the highlights on motd it seems obvious to me the only way to play the high press without being sitting ducks at the back is to play 3 5 2 allowing the full backs to be more attacking than defensive without leaving the CBs helplessly exposed.
As for Xhaka I'm none the wiser for the motd highlights because they really show enough of the game to notice his good half hour but I'm happy to accept the general consensus that he was better than usual ( obviously that's not difficult) But most reports on the game agree he did well once Torreira came on.
Xhaka Ramsey Mesut? Well they'd have to fight for their right to party.

26 Aug 2018 07:56:44
Agree with your comments Steve. We clearly need to learn to press as a team and I am not sure certain players will suit this style. In respect of Bellerin he has little defensive ability and am wondering whether we should try Lichtsteiner at RB, with Bellerin on the right of the midfield three? On the left the same may be an idea, with Monreal at LB and Kolasinac, when fit, on the left of the midfield three. With one creative midfield player in the centre of the three, THis may work away from home, giving more defensive cover, but at home, we would need one more creative/ attacking player in the three,

26 Aug 2018 08:09:44
G62 - The idea in Emery's 4-2-3-1 is that the 3 drop back when defending to form a 4-5-1 or at times a 4-4-2. The problem is that Iwobi and Ozil in particular are useless defensively and in any type of press. Mkhitaryan and Ramsey are not much better.
Perhaps Maitland=Niles, when fit, could play in the three or away from home play Lichtsteiner and Monreal at FB and Bellerin and Kolasinac, when fit, wide in the three. This will aid the team defensively away from home.

26 Aug 2018 08:47:45
Having a system you prefer is fine but if you don't have the right people to play that system it simply can't work.

26 Aug 2018 10:17:36
G62 - yes, that is the problem Emery was left by Wenger who had poorly balanced squads for a decade.
Emery made 5 signings during the window, which is about as many that can be successfully integrated into the squad in one window. So far he has only played Sokratis and Guendouzi in the starting line up.
I am certain he knows that we need to make 2 or 3 signings and 2 or 3 departures in January.
Possible January departures, if possible: Ramsey (contract issue and overrated) , Ozil (a costly waste of space) .
I would also like to see Iwobi and Mustafi replaced as soon as possible.
Signings in January, 2 wide players that can defend and attack.

26 Aug 2018 10:58:40
I just hope people are prepared accept some high scoring defeats as well as some high scoring wins and draws along the way RG.
This season much like Pep and Jurgen first season is going to be full of ups and downs with some shock wins and defeats along the way because Dicks playing system isn't going to happen quickly and certainly not smoothly.

26 Aug 2018 11:42:15
G62 - Emery has been left with a poor squad and it will take time to rebuild. When you think we sold or released the following players since the start of last season, the squad which was already lacking was weakened further:
Giroud, Wilshere, Oxlade, Sanchez, Coquelin, Perez, Ospina, Koscieny (long term injury) , Chambers, Campbell, Akpom, Cazorla, Mertesacker, Walcott, Szczesny, Debuch. Many had to go, but a massive rebuilding job.

26 Aug 2018 12:15:35
RG that’s some talent we’ve let go and arguably some much better than what we have.



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