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19 May 2017 17:11:30
Any one think Tony Adams views from his new book on Wenger are right? And do you think if he did have a role at arsenal, he'd be able to help the defense out like he says he could?

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19 May 2017 17:42:16
He's doing great at Granada so doubt he'd be tempted. anyone can talk the talk but ask Neville about walking the walk.

19 May 2017 17:53:06
Personally, I think our Tone is as nutty as a fruitcake. Amazing guy, has been on a personal journey that takes courage and commitment and of course was a world class defender.

His managerial and coaching "career" has been chequered to put it mildly, and he does not seem to be the warmest or most personable individual in any interviews I've read about him or with him speaking in.
I think his immortality at Arsenal remains on the pitch - who can forget his brilliant volley against Everton on the sun to complete a memorable win and season? I think my memories are best left there without him sullying this through some misguided attempt to "solve" Arsenal's issues.

Getting rid of that pompous ass Wenger - "Hmmm, I may leave, or I may not, but I am so self important I play you all along to my own amusement, irrespective of the devastation that may lead to for the Club I purportedly love".

19 May 2017 18:49:59
Adams was an awesome player. I suggest he looks at Wenger's managerial record and compares it to his own.

19 May 2017 20:02:23
He's just showing what a good defensive coach he is as Granada have just gone 2 down after 8 minutes! 😱.

{Ed001's Note - to be fair, he did only say Wenger could not coach, nothing about managing and he does have a point. Wenger does not do the coaching as has been pointed out by many former players. One current player, who I won't name, has said that he does not know what Wenger actually does, as he never sees him on the training ground.}

20 May 2017 08:23:19
Christ that's crazy ed, so does Bouldy do the training and unless Bouldy is hopeless why is some of our defending still so bad on occasions or is he simply told what he can and can't do with the squad?

Also begs the question why players praise him and say he's taught them so much, Henry being an example or does that mean this is a more recent change.

Klopp, Conte, Mourinho and Guardiola I can't imagine would ever be away from the training ground.

My comment on Adams was that he felt he wasn't given a chance to be the defensive coach here and I was watching Sly News who at that moment reported Granada had gone 2 down after 8 minutes, thus so much for his defensive coaching 😂😂.

{Ed001's Note - Bould takes the training, but Wenger will tell him exactly what to train, as he does with every facet of the club. It is always to his instructions.

Being taught something doesn't necessarily mean it is in training. Rafa Benitez, Jose Mourinho, Alex Ferguson, Harry Redknapp etc etc do not (or did not in Fergie's case) take training either. They can still teach you things by sitting down and discussing things that they have spotted in games or that the coaches have mentioned to them. Rafa used to always point out to Steven Gerrard about how he was running too much during games, rather than congratulate him on a good performance, he would point out what he could have done better etc.

Guardiola is a particularly hands on coach, rather than a manager like Wenger and the ones mentioned previously. Unlike Wenger, who micromanages all aspects of the club, Guardiola is obsessively micromanaging every aspect of the football played. During training he will be constantly talking to players, instructing them what he wants. Both for me are examples of people who need to learn to delegate more.

I would not judge Adams on the mess at Granada, it is an impossible job on his hands dealing with the shambles left behind by the Pozzos. Most of the players are not even owned by the club itself, so they just don't care as they won't be there next season.}

20 May 2017 09:09:00
Thanks ed much appreciated again, out of interest are you a fan of Guardiola re your comment about him?

{Ed001's Note - not really. He has some fantastic ideas but I am more of a fan of the coaches he has taken his ideas from - Marcelo Bielsa and Juanma Lillo. Pep needs to stop turning his players into what he wants them to be and coaching the team to play to the strengths of the players he has.}

20 May 2017 13:21:35
Thanks again ed, it was good to read up on those two guys and both still in football. Well Bielsa going to Lille for next season and interesting that Lillo is with Sampaoli at Seville.

Much appreciated mate.

{Ed001's Note - I love Bielsa, he is a mad genius! Lillo is fascinating as well, the more I read about him, the more I think the guy is a genius too.}







 

 

 
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