24 Oct 2017 09:40:36
After watching the Everton game it just makes vicarage road all the more fustrating! To say the amount of pressure Wenger is under I’m surprised Klopp doesn’t face the same . less wins then Rodgers and a real failure to address the problems in the summer window. Do you think now fans are subject to reading into to much glamour and media, look at dyche being talked down by Everton fans because he’s not glamorous! These days we don’t paint our own picture we are guilty of being a product of stats and the media. Thoughts?
24 Oct 2017 10:20:47
Absolutely, DoLally, Watford was really depressing as a win would have kept us right up there.
I am as guilty as anyone in respect of criticising Wenger, but in the cold light of day, he has still won 3 FA Cups and 3 Community Shields over the last 4 seasons and qualified for the CL in all bar one season and even then we are in the EL, which is interesting as we play different teams and can watch squad and young players.
Klopp has a relatively poor record at Liverpool and they are behind us in 9th place.
Pochettino has won absolutely nothing at the toot.
Conte is on exactly the same points as us.
It only leaves two of the games top managers Guardiola and Mourinho in a better position than Wenger. Marco Silva is doing well at Watford.
Two big shouts to replace Wenger last season were Koeman sacked by relegation threatened Everton and Howe also in relegation trouble at second from bottom with Bournemouth.
So perhaps Wenger isn't as poor a manager as we think, after all we have won all three EL matches and sit top of our group. We are still in the LC giving youngsters and squad players valuable playing time. Despite our poor start to the season, we sit 5th in the PL on the same points as last seasons Champions Chelsea. With Man U playing the toot, whilst we have a very winnable match at home to Swansea, we should close the gap on either Man U or the Toot, possibly both if we win and they draw. We have won all 4 home league matches and have turned the corner away from home with the win at Everton.
Let's get behind Wenger and the team at this week's home matches.
24 Oct 2017 10:35:37
I personally don't have a lot of time for stats because they can give a very false impression of the reality of things.
When we look at Dyche we shouldn't just look at results because sometimes a manager can be a one club wonder like Adi Boothroyd at Watford and Phil Brown Hull Darren Ferguson at Peterborough, if you look at his credentials in different areas of the game like man management motivation tactics adaptability when your original game plan is working and the ability the realise they've got it wrong and act quickly to change a situation that turns defeats into draws or even wins.
There is no perfect manager and never has been but I think it's all about getting the man who suits you and your current set up best.
It's no good having an England manager who people don't enjoy working with Because they would simply not play for their country but at club level they are under contract so have little choice but to knuckle down or be shipped out.
Horses for courses and I think Dyche has what it takes to move up a level or two.
24 Oct 2017 17:42:42
R. G. you are top of the Europa league with crap teams while spurs, are bossing their group in the champions league with top class teams in real Madrid and Dortmund that's the difference these days.