07 Jun 2016 15:20:09
If Vardy has to 'think' about swapping Leicester for Arsenal, then I am sorry, but he is not for us.
I get that he and Leicester have an outstanding accomplishment under their belts now, but really, Leicester and Arsenal are different breeds.
I very much doubt that we only submitted a bid on Friday, from what I read we have been in discussions for a week to 10 days, so the player would know where he's going, what the wages would be, where he would live etc - that would have all taken place long before getting on plane yesterday - for Vardy to be egotistical enough to think we would wait around for him, out of principle I'd give Sanogo the number 9 shirt and send a big '**** you' Vardy's way.
I was never 'sold' on this signing, and I don't think that he should be the sum of all our efforts this summer for a striker.
Xhaka is a great start, but we need a serious striker and I worry that Vardy just won't cut it up front for AFC.
07 Jun 2016 16:04:55
he is exactly the type of player we need, always running, always creating problems for the CB's what i read recently sums him up perfectly what he lacks in technique he makes up for in desire.
he may not bang in 25 goals but if he can score in the big games that's all we need. someone who can kill off big games when we need to counter the hell out of them, and ozil and sanchez breaking with a striker that can also run like the wind. oh my oh my.
07 Jun 2016 16:04:55
he is exactly the type of player we need, always running, always creating problems for the CB's what i read recently sums him up perfectly what he lacks in technique he makes up for in desire.
he may not bang in 25 goals but if he can score in the big games that's all we need. someone who can kill off big games when we need to counter the hell out of them, and ozil and sanchez breaking with a striker that can also run like the wind. oh my oh my.
07 Jun 2016 16:51:07
I agree with you sky walker in the respect that I'm not sold on the idea but to call him egotistical etc is unfair, it's a big decision and I would have loved some of our past turncoats (nasri, rvp, clichy etc) to have at least thought but they all left like a flash.
07 Jun 2016 17:03:27
Laker, oh and he can score too. Just pass him the ball and he won't be shy of the goal. He isn't as wasteful as Theo or Giroud is.
Would like us to get Mkihtaryan if Vardy's deal collapses.
07 Jun 2016 17:25:09
I disagree laker
We need more than someone who just scores in the big games, we need a prolific 20/ 25+ goals a season, a commanding leader, score a goal outa nothing, drags the team forward, has age on there side.
Vardy has some of what we are looking for and is a good player, I would have him fo sure but as back up.
No disrespect to Vardy but I demand Arsenal fc do better for a first choice striker. How long have we been waiting for a real proper striker? This is the summer to go all out n get the best, you mean to tell me there isn't better out there that we can get? We have worldys like ozil and Sanchez in our team, we can mount a challenge on all trophy fronts, we have one of the greatest n well respected managers in the game.
We have the pulling power surely?
07 Jun 2016 18:10:59
Jegooner,
take a look at the strikers that are available on the current market prior to the euros and what prices they are going for. Then think about an average striker that may get a good run of games and score a few goals in the euros. He is average at best but his price trebbled cause he banged 4 goals in, in 3 games. Welcome to silly season.
Vardy has a work rate of a mule, the esteem of a god and work rate of 3 walcots. We need more players in the team like that and for 20million, that's a steal (prem proven now also) .
I am not saying he is the be all and end all, but be realistic here. What other strikers do you expect to come available in the next few weeks that the rest of europe don't want that can score 20 goals+ a season.
I think we will be lucky if he does come join us. He will make Giroud work a lot harder at any rate.
{Ed025's Note - no argument from me gavsta mate..
07 Jun 2016 18:15:48
I'm not sold on Vardy either. Even at Leicester I don't think he'll have another season like this. I say just go all out and get Griezman. He possesses all of Vardy's qualities (fast, agile, strong, good work rates etc) and he's a fantastic finisher, not to mention he has 5 years on JV. He would cost a lot but as the eds say, it's not our money, so why worry?
{Ed025's Note - for the money NE, vardy seems a great deal to me, i do like griezman as well but hpw well he would do in the prem is a gamble, well it is for the money they would want mate..
07 Jun 2016 18:34:48
For me if he is making us wait then tell him forget it and move onto the next target. We've had too many windows we've messed around.
07 Jun 2016 18:41:46
Mkihtarayan anyway. He's not a striker so getting vardy or not would have no influence on getting him they don't play the same position.
07 Jun 2016 19:09:44
Is it me
Arsenal or Leicester, If you can't make you mind up then go enjoy the relegation scrap.
I'm not the greatest fan of Vardy (I don't know why )
But if he doesn't row the channel and run to London then
Bye bye, Wenger is taking a massive gamble.
120k, 3 year deal ummmmmm I wonder what I will do,
Wenger give his agent a call and say hrs or we pull the plug.
As he got super Nicks agent or what.
Arsenal wait for no player, unless your Messi, Ronaldo or the great welsh wizard, Jesus if Welbeck was fit, Vardy would be sat on his Arse At home.
07 Jun 2016 19:10:16
I don't think this has anything to do with Vardy being 'egotistical' I do actually believe this is a hard choice for him.
Let's not forget, a few years ago, he was playing non league football.
Now he's just won the league with a club who gave him a chance in the championship and stuck with him in the big time.
There are so many people claiming to know the reason why he's not agreed/ agreed yet.
From him being scared he won't be the big fish anymore, to him wanting a 4 year deal and is only offering a 3 year.
Vardy also doesn't have the luxury of another chance, so to speak.
If he's 24, comes to Arsenal, it doesn't work and we ship him off after 2 years, he's got 6-7 years left of his career, to make it work again.
If he comes here now, at 29, doesn't work out and we ship him off at 31, he's got 1-2 years of career left and he's not going to be able to go to another big team at that age, with a 'failed' spell at Arsenal.
As for people saying we should go after 'better' strikers, who?
Aubamayeng will probably end up at City or Real Madrid, he's always wanted Madrid and has never pretended otherwise.
Lewandowski won't leave Bayern just yet, unless someone comes in with stupid money.
Higauin, maybe, but he's 29 too, lacks the fitness levels to be playing much more than 2-3 years and will cost is at least twice what's being quoted for Vardy.
Morata, not really prolific yet and for one reason or another, seems we've gone off him.
Benzema, may leave if Madrid get Aubamayeng, but I wouldn't touch him with a 10 foot pole.
Trust me, in a peferct world, Vardy isn't my first choice either.
He's not my first choice now for that matter.
However, he is a realistic option, with a proven premier league record, in his prime, who'll give us goals for at least a couple years.
And a couple years is a long time in football, by the time Vardy is getting on, we'll be talking about a whole new crop of strikers Arsenal should be signing/ can't afford/ aren't realistic. (Enes Unal of City, Andre Silva of Porto and Neal Maupay of St Ettienne are my shouts)
Who knows, Yaya Sanogo is only 24.
{Ed025's Note - good post that D..
07 Jun 2016 19:39:11
D
I agree with a lot of what you say
But please don't think that 120k on a 3 year deal is putting Vardy on the bread line, as a rough guess that 18 million.
5 yrs ago he was on £1000 a week.
The bookies have Vardy to stay at Leicester.
I can't beleave we are discussing this, 2 yrs ago most on here would want Wengers head on a spike if we where talking about Vardy.
We are TALKING £120 k a week 3 year deal, Please can someone tell me the negatives in that. pop them on a post card
He is know Ian Wright,
I'm having a melt down.
07 Jun 2016 19:59:28
Chill out people the blokes being asked to leave the champions of England where he's not unhappy for a move to a very big club but one who's failed to put in a realistic challenge for over a decade where he may or may not be happy.
Its not unreasonable for him to need a bit of time to decide if he wants to gamble what he has for what he might or might not get with us.
One things for Certain Europes elite strikers wouldn't need much time at o to make a dedecision on joining us or not theyd probably take longer deciding what to have for lunch, a bit of realistic humility might be more inline than over inflated opinion of our own standing as a team which doesn't currently match the size of our club.
07 Jun 2016 20:12:40
Can people please tell me how they know what players will cost and where they want to play their football. I'm sure we could have all these bizarre ideas about ozil and then he signs for Arsenal so unless anyone knows these players you can't say where and how much etc. Vardy if he has another season like last would be a bargain if the prices been quoted are correct and would be a good addition to the squad. You can't buy him and put him straight in at no1 choice.
07 Jun 2016 20:38:14
Gavsta
It's not about the money for me mate, it used to be but not anymore since the prices paid for anyone in my eyes is ridiculous.
I know he works hard etc and has had an amazing season but is it a one off just like Leicester winning the league (no disrespect) and has he got the intelligence to match our style of play? Can he learn quick enough? It's a completely different game we play and at 29 he has no time to learn. Like I said a big fat YES but as back up.
If players aren't available make them available! Isn't that what the big boys do?
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You do talk sense mate and I hear ya but surely there's better that we could prize away? A striker WAS and IS our main position to upgrade so we should be sweet talking the crap outa some worldy.
Marco Rues would be a big shout for me
Icardi (has potential to be aguero like)
lukaku (prem proven/ beast/ young)
There's a long list of players we could go all out gun hoe for that would be dramatic improvements, like someone said it kinda seems abit of a cop-out.
I'd be happy if he signed but only if another came in.
07 Jun 2016 22:21:39
Jegooner I know what you are saying, I just don't agree with your way off thinking is all. There are some great players out there and yes for good money. The question lays with are they available, if so are they within our budget when we still need another CB. We all have read the papers and the carp that they put out saying we have x amount of millions to spent. It is just that, a story in a gloryfied comic book mate.
Reus-pretty sure we have tried to sail that ship many times and it sank next to the titanic of Higuian and Benzema.
Icardi- Seen the guy a few times looks good. Young fresh and scores a few. I certainly would not say no. BUT (here is where I will get slammed no doubt) . I think he would cost a bomb and that's only if Inter let him go. To me he seems slower then Aguero so a bad comparison for me and I am not so sure he could cut the mustard in a faster paced league (but hey I am no football scout just opinion) .
Lukaku- Great player, has PL experience and can only get better. Is he worth 60mill+, nah is he a male cows testicles lol.
To get to the point, I know your frustration and I feel it too. I am just trying to be realistic as this happens every worldcup and euros accept the last as we got Sanchez. Prices just go mental for average players and bidding wars start, so just try to keep it a little realistic is all.
good post though Jeg and I like the ambition.