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21 Sep 2017 06:42:58
Pleased that we won last night and a good draw for the next round. In respect of Sanago belittling the League Cup, one of the most successful managers of the modern era, Mourinho, I believe has won it 4 times and he clearly takes every competition his teams enter seriously, with a desire to win them all. Indeed, clearly before Sanogo's time, the hugely successful George Graham era at Arsenal, started off in 1986 with, guess what, winning the League Cup 2-0 against Liverpool. This was the catalyst for his success at the club.
Unfortunately I was unable to go to the match last night and haven't had an opportunity to watch the match yet, but Phil Neville brought up a very interesting word on Sky Sports last night when asked about Luke Shaw. The word was 'intensity', which he commented that Shaw lacked. This intrigued me, setting aside the team selected, positions, tactics, etc, this probably something often lacking in recent Wenger teams. In the pre-Emirates era we had players such as Keown, Adams, Vieira, etc, who always played with self-motivated intensity. Whereas nowadays the team often lack intensity. Yes, they can turn it on and last weekend's match was an example, as was the FA Cup Final. However, and I say this without having seen last night's match, the scoreline was disappointing, while the other PL top teams were putting 3 or 4 past lower league opponents, we only managed a solitary goal and in a match where squad players were given an ideal opportunity to show why they should be first choices. From reports Wilshere was one of the few players that showed intensity. Was this the case that many players didn't give their all and could this be the missing ingredient. You only have to look at the passion shown on the touchline by top managers, that seems lacking at our club.

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21 Sep 2017 08:36:42
You talk so much nonsense it's untrue.

21 Sep 2017 09:02:12
When ever you don't play your best 11 you are sending out a message that this game isn't either important or as difficult as other games so people switch off to some degree.
Personally i think this has hurt us in the past in league cups champions league games and FA cup games, we call it rotation while other clubs like Chelsea under Mourinho and Conte seem to keep that intensity and winning mentality in all competitions, and it seems to work for them.
Seriously where has rotation got us in the past? Maybe we should give respecting all competitions a go and see what happens to the teams mentality, I'm not saying it will make the difference between being competitive in the league or not but rotation certainly hasn't bred a competitive winning mentality that's become part and parcel of everyday life at Arsenal.
Success breeds success and it seems for us once we go out of one competion our season has a domino effect.
Play the best 11 players in every game, surely it's worth a try?

21 Sep 2017 09:47:41
I'm not really debating how important or unimportant the league cup is more the point that someone is bragging about charity sheilds and having a bigger crowd than spurs in a bloody league cup game. That's what you call been thankful for small mercies . Get a grip RG.

21 Sep 2017 12:10:47
Alas, Sanago you are clearly unable to comprehend my comments. I wasn't bragging about having higher gates for League Cup games than the Toot, I simply asked raver why Toot fans are not going to these matches, as their attendances for such matches are far lower than ours. In respect of the Charity Shield I simply commented that we have won it 3 times over the last 4 seasons and like it or not it's a day out at Wembley and we had to win the F A Cup and defeat the reigning champions to lift it. If you go further along your line, the League Cup and Europa League are second rate and not worth winning, so it's the PL, CL and possibly the F A Cuo are the only trophies worth celebrating.

22 Sep 2017 16:50:13
Rg61, the reason why mourinho has won it 4 times is because he is the only top manager that takes it seriously, Sir Alex and wenger never did, do you think he would of won it that many times if they did?

24 Sep 2017 21:09:43
Gunnerbod, getting to the final, playing your strongest team and losing, is taking it seriously. I agree in earlier rounds we played youngsters but we bombed in the final especially against Birmingham with a full first team.



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