01 May 2016 09:21:37
Right, here we go. I've not posted on here for a long time. I've happily did a Malaga and sat in the shadows and watched this site. Frustrated at times with comments i have kept my keyboard away from me. However i'm slightly (ok i'm really) disappointed with 'some' arsenal fans (proposed) . The way they handled Arsene yesterday at the emirates was beyond disgraceful in my eyes. Do these Arsenal fans understand that we're being laughed at the way we treat the man who has made us 'progress', yes i said a swear word 'progress'! Some might say we're being laughed at because Leicester, a relegation candidate last year will win the league but we're 3rd in the league in front of 17 other teams and we're are treating our manager as if we're Aston Villa or Newcastle. I understand protesting is a way for 'proposed' fans to get their point across, but what actually does it prove/ change? errr nothing. Not a mystic meg but i will tell you what will happen, Wenger gets pushed out by the fans and then you will see what Wenger did at the club, we will be the new Crystal Palace. Then you will get the Wenger haters having amnesia spouting tripe as such as, "We should have kept Wenger". Please, please, please. Look what happened to Newcastle, Aston Villa, Fullham, look where they are now. Yesterday, Sanchez got subbed because Wenger could stiffen up the defence bringing Coq on, Wenger got booed, Sanchez wasnt happy, and obviously the booing would defend Sanchez being upset for being subbed so knowing the fans agreed with him he walks down the tunnel (hes not injured) . So with that display of affection for Wenger, wouldn't it make you as a player not want to be in that atmosphere? Sanchez is our best player, standard, but the diplay of these fans are only going to make the club go backwards. Think about it. You complain we don't spend the money, but what world class player in his right would want to come here when the fans act like that? If you were applying for a salesman job but you read on the internet that the customers hated the company and consistently slated it for different reasons depending on what day it was (Sorry but we/ you do bitch about anything) , you would think, mmmm i don't fancy working there. Sorry for the sporadic rant but its being building up. You want Wenger out, what Managers are out there? c'mon what manager can replace our Manager? Simeoni? Low? Pellegrini (really? ) who else or have i missed anyone? Out of those 3 possibly, and i'm being seroius when i say possibly Simeoni, but he's untested in the premier league and doesn't speak one iotta of English (neither did Pellegrini) , my point is there is no one to replace Wenger so its pointless trying to bully him out. To summarize, (if you're still here reading) we need to treat our team, players, badge, history and most importantly Arsene with respect. Protesting does nothing in my eyes except make the team go backwards not forwards, and advertise the next manager that this is what you will get for 20 years service at the club. If we come out next Sunday and play crap I wouldn't be surprised being mentally tortured by some fans of the club. I expect to get hammered by some or maybe all of my points but it needed to be said.
{Ed025's Note - i think you make some really good points daywalker and having your say is what this site is all about mate..you need to post more often imo..
01 May 2016 09:36:42
Never a truer word spoke from a passionate fan.
The real fans are bigger then the few Wenger out bully boys.
01 May 2016 09:55:08
welsh gooner
what gives you the right to say you are anymore an arsenal fan than the people who want change.
i have traveled to most parts of europe to follow a team i love
since when has freedom of speech been a crime
i take offence to your post.
{Ed025's Note - its just guys expressing an opinion malaga which is what its all about really, try not to take things personally mate as its only how different people see things..
01 May 2016 10:11:07
Very good post and Well said daywalker, I believe a change must be made, it doesn't have to be wenger although his time will come to end but maybe his stubbornness and faith he's given to some players. We are creating chances but we need some one to score them amd the defence need a little tweak.
The fans must stick with there team no matter what, look at Dortmund they struggled big and the yellow wall never turned any other colour.
01 May 2016 10:05:13
ed025, i'm all for people expressing opinions and respect some 1 elses opinion, because its what makes the site so great, but welsh gooner is out of order.
{Ed025's Note - its just his opinion as i see it malaga and not a direct insult to yourself, if i felt it was i would not allow it as i dont tolerate personal attacks on other posters, the tv showed a lot of discontent between factions in the crowd and there is a split within the supporters on how they want the club to proceed on the matter but it has to be done in the right manner, arsenal are a well respected club and are being shown in a very bad light at the moment mate..
01 May 2016 10:50:11
I don't see it that way Malaga he is expressing himself and has a right to do so as a fellow brother of our club.
01 May 2016 12:03:59
I think there is a division between the supporters because the club is stagnating and the easiest way for fans to show their frustration is to focus on the manager. One day there will be a change of manager, enforced or not and only then can we appreciate what Wenger has done for our club. I have no doubt that he loves our club but sometimes I just can't justify his excuses any more. I get the feeling sometimes that there is something going on behind the scenes at the club that we are unaware of, what that is I'm not sure of but it would explain the lack of ambition to improve our squad at the start of this season. I think the club has to recognise that other teams in the league are getting stronger and that in order for us to stay at a level where we can challenge, a new direction has to be taken, especially in our attitude where I feel our club has too many people comfortable in the knowledge that not much is expected of them but the bare minimum. If next season is to be Wengers last, I hope he instills a ruthless determination in the players and that they give him the success his loyalty deserves.
01 May 2016 12:14:06
Nice post DW
Couldn't agree more
Malaga man up mate, DW or Welsh didn't attack you mate they just said the banner boo boys are disrespectful which they are.
Wenger will be here next season then he's gone and should be shown a lot more respect then what's being given to him right now. Us fans need to support Wenger for one more season whilst he's here then he'll leave n we'll all see what a great manager he really was
Don't take things so personally people
It's opinions :)
01 May 2016 12:20:15
We are all entitled to our opinion and we have to respect others views. I have backed Giroud for months and got stick for it by a few. Giroud is bloody awful at the minute and yet still being played by Wenger, yet some of you who gave me stick are not having a bad word said about Wenger. How does that work.
Very good post by Daywalker but blimey don't ever say we will be like Palace, out 'pulling' power is far too strong. Villa / Newcastle or Fulham, not sure I get that either too be honest.
If Arsenal aren't going to change Managers and Wenger signs a new deal then its clear mediocrity is acceptable . We haven't progressed at all since moving from Highbury, we knew there would be some tough years but aren't we suppossed to be through those and now have money to spend and challenge? I do expect Wenger to see his contract out and after that I expect him to take up a new role within the club. Chelsea have improved since a change of Manager and IMO Liverpool will keep improving we are in a rut at the minute and it needs a bit of a shake up.
Daywalker mentioned about Managers not being able to talk one bit of English. look at Poch, he hadnt a clue about the Prem or our language, he has done very well and will continue to do so .
Just opinions and we are all entitled to them.
Have to say and I mentioned this yesterday the protest during the game wasnt a good thing and poor timing .
01 May 2016 12:49:55
Thanks Ed.
Malaga - chill out, you're acting like a Spurs fan; it was my opinion and not directed (unless you were one of the boo boys yesterday showing lack of respect) .
01 May 2016 12:52:19
Thanks Welshgooner - from a passionate fan to another.