20 Sep 2015 16:05:15
After the dust has settled now, does anyone else think the team lacks spark for want of a better word? This season there is no urgency or fight at times and some players look half-hearted. Events yesterday are just covering over some major elephants in the room like ozil and his lack of commitment, and the fact we lack pace combined with power . What do you all think?
20 Sep 2015 16:22:45
Well I don't think we lack pace for a start. Theo, Ox, Sanchez, Bellerin and then we have Welbeck to come back? I think we haven't really got going yet, only played well in patches, and I think there is a lot more to come from us. I'm certainly not already panicking or giving up like some people seem to be.
20 Sep 2015 16:44:15
I meant power to go with the pace we have already. I do think that some players need rested, Ramsey and Sanchez to name but two. I think man city result has put a lot of things into perspective this weekend, lower teams are taking points off the two favourites for the title and I can see this pattern continuing for a while, so it's not all bleak in terms of challenging.
20 Sep 2015 16:45:07
Who has given up??
20 Sep 2015 16:45:46
Ubistonk,
You are correct. In Theo, Ox, Sanchez, Bellerin and Welbeck we have pace to burn.
But, we move the ball around too slowly. One pass, sometimes two, too many.
To utilise fast players you need to move the ball around fast.
Look at Stoke game.
Ozil, deep in own half, puts a ball over the top to Theo, who scores.
Look at Arsenal of old, with Thierry, Freddie, Vieira and Pires.
We could be defending a corner, 5 seconds later we counter attack and score.
This team doesn't do that.
They don't have speed of thought like other Arsenal teams, which is amazing because they are all teams managed by Wenger.
20 Sep 2015 16:53:01
Ubi i ain't giving up as you put just holding a long term view that is still the same now as it was before and i have seen nothing at all to make me think any different. I would like someone who thinks we are better now than we were last or the season before to tell me where because i don't see it. We are toothless and rudderless in our approach, just recycling each game what we have done before. Sorry i see no progress.
20 Sep 2015 17:09:53
I agree with that Dags. Our best performances last year were playing counter attack, not possession. Take Villa at home, think it finished 5-1 and they had more possession than us. We need to get that back in our game. In the end Steve, progress will be measured at the end of the season, not now. If we finish top 2, then that will be progress.
20 Sep 2015 17:13:10
Agreed DagGun - that's why Rosicky is still so valuable and missed, even at his age... rather than put out to pasture as many would like.
Hurry back!
20 Sep 2015 17:16:46
UG
Bloody hell.....we say that every season when will it sink to you and others. It is always ' next season' and no progress isn't 2nd if we are 10-15 points behind the winners.
As 62 posted a few days ago progress is still being within a couple of points with a few games to go .
This season we won't even be champions of the Autumn
20 Sep 2015 17:26:16
Agree Ubistonk and Cangun.
20 Sep 2015 17:31:36
Guys Rosicky has no future at this club , sentiment wins you nothing, SAF would have shipped him out ages ago
20 Sep 2015 17:32:19
Wo wo wo there Ban, don't go having a meltdown. I never mentioned next season mate. If you finish higher than the season before then that is a form of progression, because you have become stronger relative to the rest of the league, that's all I said. Whether we make enough progress to satisfy you is another matter entirely.
20 Sep 2015 17:39:48
BanGun give your head a shake, who cares about next year - any game when we are stale and methodical, Rosicky is often our best option for the last 30 minutes. He moves the ball fast and plays with his brain - makes everyone better with their spacing and movement- you have watched him play right?
20 Sep 2015 17:43:47
I don't have to wait to the end of the season, it would be an absolute miracle and a total meltdown of teams around us to finish 2nd this season. That seems to be a get out by people, it seems that's said every season and the same loyalty to the cause is let down, it will this. Your eyes must tell you that. I will judge at the end of the season, but you get a big idea where you are going week after week, month after month.
20 Sep 2015 18:19:43
It would not take a miracle for us to finish 2nd Steve. Sorry mate, you are entitled to your opinion but that isn't just extremely pessimistic, it's just plain silly. So you are saying that you have seen 2 or more teams this season that we have absolutely no chance at all of finishing above? Who are they?
20 Sep 2015 18:48:25
Ubi we ain't that good , we have a soft center and we are not progressing, we are serial bottlers and that it still there. The manager is making error after error and we are drifting into another ground hog day. You tell me what you have seen that disproves that.