10 May 2025 13:35:17
The last thing I'll say about the manager is that Wenger overstayed his welcome, hence why it took us so long to rebuild. Fans wanting Arteta to stay are risking the exact same thing. The longer we do not win with the current players results in our best players wanting to leave. If you were one of the fans upset when RVP left, Cole, Cesc, Nasri, Henry, Sanchez, and you want Arteta to stay, then respectfully you're part of the problem. You are "willing" to risk the exact same cycle happening again. Ask yourselves, do you want this to happen again? Do you ONLY want him sacked if we do not get top 4? Next year are you again going to be saying "let's give him another year". The rhetoric that we will be starting "all over again" if we sack him is ridiculous.
1.) 10 May 2025
10 May 2025 15:26:30
DG your example of players falling out and wanting to leave is not one that I can see I think the team are behind Arteta they can see him getting us everything and mark my word if we bring in the correct signings (and its not on Arteta who we sign) , next season will be an amazing season for us. let's not try and fix something that is not broken.
The players you have mentioned that left under wenger did not leave because they thought wenger was unable to deliver trophies nut instead they new kronkes would not be putting hands in their pockets to bring in players that were required same reason david dein left. The club need to go out and bring in the players we need.
Mark my words unless we have a bigger injury crisis than we have had this season come this time next season there will be happy Gooners.
If we bring in the signings required and keep a health squad and we don't win than it will definetley be the right time to be looking to replace
If we don't bring in the right signings if I was Arteta I would resign Come on People Next season is ours.
2.) 10 May 2025
10 May 2025 17:30:42
What's ridiculous is to suggest that United and Spurs are having better seasons than us even though both clubs sit just above just above the relegation zone and we sit in second place and they are only in Europa league cup this season by virtue of the they failed miserably to achieve a top 4 finish last season.
Finding reasons to big up other clubs who currently under achieving as a level their fans have not seen for years in order to belittle and put down your own club not only ridiculous in my opinion it's also extremely desperate.
3.) 10 May 2025
10 May 2025 18:18:20
Calling for Arteta to go now is frankly absurd. The team is making progress on all fronts, competing when against high level opponents, and still second in the league, sfmi-finalisfs in ECL, despite a shocking injury list and the loss of key ayers for pivotal parts of the season. The comparison with the final years of Wenger is also somewhat muddleheaded, not least because of the financial constraints we laboured under, that were never expected. Sorry to be a bit caustic, but it just doesn't make any sense.
4.) 10 May 2025
10 May 2025 21:43:26
So just to test your position, next season if we finish second (1 point behind the champions) , and get to the CL final and lose, Carabao Cup final and lose, and FA Cup final and lose, I assume you want him to stay because that’s “progress” from this year. Arsenal and Arteta have literally manipulated all of you to thinking Arteta is the second coming of Jesus Christ.
{Ed025's Note - that would be coming second rather than the "second coming" Dags.. :)
5.) 10 May 2025
10 May 2025 22:43:58
Just to test your position, do you want us to win or lose tomorrow?
6.) 10 May 2025
10 May 2025 22:54:45
I want us to win all our matches regardless who the manager is. Now answer my question.
7.) 11 May 2025
10 May 2025 23:32:58
Sorry I thought it was another ridiculous post from you
But if you are truly being serious in your question and would I sack a manager who took us to 3 finals in the same and missed out on the title by just 1pt then never in a million years would i sack him.
If I was that desperate for a trophy I'd either start supporting Celtic or Chelsea women's team.
8.) 11 May 2025
11 May 2025 00:53:55
LOL I rest my case. That is literally supporting the manager more than the club.
9.) 11 May 2025
11 May 2025 09:47:57
Ok you choose
Your scenario of 3 finals and missing out on the title by 1 point
Or
Avoiding relegation by 1pt but winning the league cup?
I guess its like choosing between a brand new Fiat 500 or a 1 year old Mercedes with 20,000 on the clock. Once the novelty of having a brand new car wears off your still stuck with the reality of driving around in the Fiat 500
To each their own.
10.) 11 May 2025
11 May 2025 11:03:46
That’s literally the problem with you people who love Arteta. When you try to imagine a scenario where’s he’s not managed, you imagine a stupid extreme scenario. It’s contradictory hence why your argument is so poor.
{Ed014's Note - exactly who do you think you are when you say “you people”.
11.) 11 May 2025
11 May 2025 11:29:01
That's contradictory too, Dags. The scenario that you gave about Arteta reaching three finals and winning none of them, and finishing second is also a stupid extreme scenario. So can we say that your argument is poor as well?
{Ed014's Note - it always is! ?
12.) 11 May 2025
11 May 2025 12:41:04
The point being made is Arsenal supporters cannot say we have quality players, and then say getting a new manager will break everythingapart. The reason why my scenario makes sense is that I believe we have quality players, but the manager has proven he cannot get us over the line, hence the example of the 3 finals and finishing second. If you think we have top players at Arsenal, it is extremely unlikely that we will be finishing 15th with a new manager, hence why that’s a poor argument. Overall, the views of supporting Arteta over and over again is what we did with Wenger. We let him keep carrying on which meant our top players were getting older, players leaving and supporters losing faith. Why even risk going through this cycle again? We have entered 12 competitions since 2022 and have won 0 trophies, 0 out of 12. Then loyalty being given to Mikel, just because we are “challenging” and because “where we were before” are all literally because Wenger outstayed his welcome, the exact thing we are doing with Arteta. How some supporters don’t see things crazy to me.
13.) 11 May 2025
11 May 2025 13:04:15
Reckon Newcastle should get rid off Howe, because he's only won one trophy in 4yrs. With all that progression they've made, not just on the pitch, but off it as well, it's not good enough.
14.) 11 May 2025
11 May 2025 13:26:52
That's the problem with you people who think you know all the answers to the questions. If people only had the sense to listen to you, you and you alone you would lead them to the land of milk and honey yet promise all who continue to defy you nothing but eternal fire and brimstone.
Not religious by any chance are you?
The end is nigh ????.
15.) 11 May 2025
11 May 2025 13:32:17
The main reason we digressed in wengers later years is because the club was unable to financially compete with the others. Any player we would approach would get a better offer from elsewhere. Not down to the manager but the board. The only reason we are still in premier league is because Wenger stuck around assuring the banks we were in safe hands. We now know Edu was not working working for the best interest of the club and had been doing dodgy deals to support his own cause rather than the club. To blame Arteta for the board and Edus doing is ludicrous . The reason why the hire and fire culture worked at Chelsea and not and not for say Man U or Tottenham is purely down to Chelsea would support the incoming manager with full funds. The managers bought with them a team of back house staff that ensured they would get the player they wanted. Arsenal board does not work that way. That hire and fire for arsenal would be a catastrophic action to take.
16.) 11 May 2025
11 May 2025 14:05:00
Out of interest Dags, who would you have as Artetas replacement?
17.) 12 May 2025
12 May 2025 07:23:53
Dags what’s you’re idea of a good season what would arteta have to do to get you’re approval next season.
{Ed014's Note - has Dags come up with a suggestion as to who should replace him and why yet? ?
18.) 12 May 2025
12 May 2025 09:20:49
Dags, Arteta will be there next year so we should all get behind him I reckon. A divided fanbase doesn't do the club any good!
19.) 12 May 2025
12 May 2025 12:43:32
Hi Ed014. I don’t have particular names to replace him but that doesn’t mean there’s no one out there to replace him. Liverpool wouldn’t of never expected Slot to have done what he done this season, and there are further examples of that in the footballing world.
{Ed014's Note - strange as it seems I don’t really rate Liverpool and have watched them a number of times this season, including a live game and for the most they haven’t looked all that at all.
Points make prizes though and they’ve taken advantage of a chance.
I appreciate there are others out there, I like the Bournemouth guy, Ancelotti will be free soon.
But anyone is a gamble and I think Arteta has deserved next season to be totally fair to him.
I just don’t want us to take another step backward, that’s happened through circumstances this season, rather than us suddenly being garbage.
Obviously the failure to secure a striker has made it all much worse.
That really was the key position for this season having gone so close twice, like everyone, I’d love to know why we didn’t get one.
It has been obvious from his time at City that Jesus wasn’t the answer as much as Kai wasn’t either.
20.) 12 May 2025
12 May 2025 15:16:17
I think Slot is the exception rather than the rule Dags.