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19 Dec 2018 23:24:18
Deeply dissapointed by our two recent losses. You can tell this team is devoid of quality in most areas of the pitch. It will be a miraculous achievement if Emery wins the europa or finishes in the top 4 with this lot.

The biggest worrying thing for me is that the team is in serious need of investment to get in the top four never mind challenging for the title.

The owner believes you can achieve both through our self sustaining policy but that can only work if we are winning trophies so that we generate more sponsorship but how can we win if we don't have a good squad? It is a vicious circle.

Unai Emery as much as he was not my first choice, is a decent coach but that team is so rubbish he can't do much. we have already fallen behind city and liverpool we risk falling behind the spuds and chelsea unless we invest heavily. United will get a new manager next season and they will spend heavily. I expect them to challenge for the title soon. I expect them to get poch or zidane and you can imagine how much they will spend then.

punani gooner

1.) 20 Dec 2018 02:45:17
Punani chill out. You forgotten all ready we destroyed spurs like a week ago as well as having an impressive unbeaten run. I agree the team is short of some world class talent but we’ve taken a massive step forward. Yes we’ve lost 2 games on the spin but do you remember what happened last time we lost 2 games on the spin?

We’ve not been great of late I admit, but in my opinion it’s no coincidence that form has dipped since the formation has changed and Lacazette hasn’t been starting.


2.) 20 Dec 2018 07:59:17
Emery has done a fine job so far, bringing in 5 players during the summer, which is about the maximum amount that could be safely integrated. We have been unfortunately to lose 2 players out for the season to injury. I would like to see us sign a couple of players in the window; a player to replace Welbeck, who can play up front and in a wide attacking role and a midfield player with an all-round game.
The following players are clearly on borrowed time:
Jenkinson! - utterly useless
Ozil
Iwobi - still poor despite an upturn in form since Emery's arrival
Ramsey - contract running down
Cech - contract running down
Monreal - contract running down
Elneny - simply not good enough

For me the major weakness for me that needs most attention is that we have too many attacking midfield players that offer so little defensively.


3.) 20 Dec 2018 09:35:19
Dick has a similar job to what Jurgen walked into at Liverpool both inherited poor squads full of obvious weaknesses and defensive problems.
It didn't happen over night at Liverpool and it won't happen over night at Arsenal either, this time last season people were still asking huge questions about Liverpools defence.
Jurgen and Liverpool had some pretty poor results on the way to getting where they are now 3 years after Klopp took over, patience is going with the manager and the club is the only way we stand a chance of getting back to being competitive.
If in 3 years time we still have all the same problems with squad quality then I will be joining those who question the club but if it took Liverpool and Klopp 3 years why should we expect Arsenal and Emery to do pretty much exactly the same job in less than 1 year?
Be realistic and give both the club and management a sensible chance and time scale to show what they can do together.


4.) 20 Dec 2018 15:45:54
Agreed, I think we've just gotten used to winning again, so fans are overreacting to the two losses on the trot.

Ideally we would have rotated yesterday, but that was a man's game and a NLD so we couldn't play the kids.

Although we lost, we now match them physically (which wasn't the case the last two seasons) and we need more time for Emery to get the players he wants.

We're tired and beat up, but we need to push to January and get a couple players to reinforce and refresh the squad.

We're on the right track boys.

COYG.


5.) 20 Dec 2018 18:58:04
Absolutely bang on the money g62. Results and seasons were poor, so most fans begged for a change. We've nkw got it. and while it has started better than we thought, it's not perfection. let's face it, things take time and I guarantee most fans of asked at the beginning of season if they'd be happy with where we are at this moment, majority would
Have said yes. New manager, new tactics, majority of inherited squad, but showing a fighting spirit that was lacking in past seasons. Rome wasn't built in a day, the excitement is surely in the curiosity of what lies ahead.


6.) 20 Dec 2018 19:20:09
So far the Dick Arsenal combo have brought in Torreira Guendouzi Leno Papa and Litch, Torreira and Guendouzi have both been brilliant signings so far and both look absolute bargains while Papa and Leno both look like good buys and Litch has proved a useful addition to the squad especially when covering injuries.
We can't sign Ronaldo Messi or Mbappe type names in order to fast track ourselves into the title race so we are going to need to be patient and buy well and if the 5 signings so far and the difference they have made are anything to go buy then we should be very excited about what we will look like if we add another 5 to them over the next two windows.


 

 

15 May 2018 23:56:39
I don't know why our fans think the arsenal job is a hot property. All the big coaches who have been linked with us, have either taken other job offers, extended their contracts or chosen to remain at their club.

We arsenal fans should be grateful to Arteta, as he is willing to take a job when everything is against him. It is a poisoned chalice, no coach wants to take it and the major reason being the board has no ambition. They are not willing to spend, hence why no top manager is interested.

It is not about history or stuff like that, it is purely down to money. You think man city got Guardiola because they have history? No. They got him because they showed him they have ambition. We could have gotten Allegri or any other top coach if we showed ambition.

I think we arsenal fans need to appreciate Arteta and cut him some slack. He took a pay cut to join us as a player and is willing to take up the job even though it is a poisoned chalice. I admire his courage. If i was in his shoes i wouldn't have taken that job because there is a bigger chance i would fail due to an unambitious owner. His career could end before it even gets started. He really has his back against the wall and i hope he succeeds for his sake and our sakes.

We are down to arteta because there is no one else, plain and simple. Every top coach is out of the running. Nobody wants us and that is not Arteta's fault. It is the fault of the board and the owner. I think the fans should be mad at them instead.

punani gooner

1.) 16 May 2018 06:48:04
Punani - I have nothing against Arteta and will support him if given the role but I have reservations:

1. We have a big defensive and mentality rebuild project
2. Arteta has limited experience as a manager but talks a good game about management but a lot about attacking play rather than defence
3. Limited experience handling players like Ozil, PEA, Rambo etc
4. Limited success as a player at an international level or club level. Combined with Management experience is not a great mix
5. Limited pool of managers due to budget and set up - have we limited ourselves to Arteta by our ambition and fears of another monopoly of power situation. Well a full dilution doesn’t work either
6. Will Arteta stand up to the board and what back room staff will he bring to help him or does that need to bed in also.

{Ed025's Note - all good points SY, its a massive job for a rookie to take on and i can see it all ending in tears myself...but who knows mate..


2.) 16 May 2018 07:49:04
If Arteta gets the job and it all starts going horrible wrong, I’d expect a horrific atmosphere at the emerites and potentially a lot worse than the last few seasons have been. Fans were torn before 50/ 50, some over looking poor results, instead respecting Wengers legacy and the hardship he put into transforming this club. This time round it will all be united aimed a one person. Kronke.


3.) 16 May 2018 08:34:52
IF and it's Still a big if Artetta gets the job then my concern is he trys to get current Arsenal players to play Pep style football.
Lots of top footballers struggle as managers with lower league teams simply because they try to get them to do stuff like premier league players forgetting if they were capable of that they would actually be premier league players.
It's no good trying to paint fine lines needed for a masterpiece of art with a 3 inch paint brush you've got to adapt your picture according to the materials you have available.


4.) 16 May 2018 08:51:34
Another point that should be mentioned. Why would Arteta want to leave the best team in the league working under arguably the best manager in the world (because of money) ? If he does take the job then fair play to him! He's risking his limelight that Pep keeps giving him to go out on manage the club that he loved to play for! I must stress that it wasn't my first choice by a long shot but there must be something there. I hope!


5.) 16 May 2018 13:42:47
The only reason why arsenal are going for arteta is because the other managers have rejected them or are not available. It has nothing to do with the bullshit gazidis said about making a 'bold' choice. A bold choice is a nagelsmann or a tedesco not an arteta.

I feel sorry for arteta. The fans are against his appointment and the board won't back him. Regardless of who comes in, that arsenal team has a long list of players who are not good enough.
1.Cech-past it
2.Bellerin-technically deficient (can't cross can't defend a speed merchant)
3. Mustafi-shocking defender. How many times have you seen him fall on his arse?
4.Koscienly-literally his Achilles has become his Achilles heel
5.Xhaka-poor tackler, slow and lacks concentration
6.Ramsey-technically not good enough
7.Iwobi-They say okocha is his uncle. Seems he didn't inherit the good genes.
8.Welbeck-shocking player. How he makes into the first team i don't know.

That is 8 players who should be shipped out so we need like a whole new team. That lot we have won't even get us into the top four. Regardless of who comes in, arsenal's perennial issues will never be addressed. The biggest issue being an owner who has zero ambition.

I feel arteta can do a decent job if the fans get behind him but i am afraid regardless of who comes in, we will never win something big unless the owner spends, something i don't think will happen. We need to start a campaign to get kroenke out.


6.) 16 May 2018 14:36:23
BS! Manager at arsenal is probably the biggest job on the market. Stable finances. Solid structure. Good (under performing) team. Good backroom staff. Getting Allegri or Ancelotti is not guaranteed any success, and the board probably know it. It might be throwing money out the window and messing up a good system.

BTW, Guardiola took over Barcelona when he was 37 years after managing the Barcelona B team. Pochettino was 37 when he took over Espanyol, no experience. The fact is that we don't know much about Arteta and the type of manager he will be. The fact that Guardiola hand picked him as his assistant is a sign of quality, he is usually a picky guy.

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7.) 16 May 2018 15:47:37
Norgunner, the arsenal job is not as big as you think it is. Here is what we know so far. Look at all the managers we were linked with and what happened with them.
1.Allegri-opted to stay at juventus. They say he had issues with the transfer budget. out of the running as of now
2.Enrique (Don't rate him highly) -had issues with salary and transfer budget. out of the running as of now.
3.Tuchel-Went to PSG.
4.Nagelsmann-Arsenal were interested. He opted to stay in hoffenheim.
5.joachim lowe-extended his contract with the german national team

I may be missing a couple more but, when wenger stepped down, the candidates were suppossedly many but almost any top manager that we we linked with; has opted to either stay, take other job offers or not even take our job even though they were unemployed.

Forget about top tier coaches, second tier coaches like nagelsmann have rejected us, what does that say about the arsenal job? face it nobody wants it and it has everything to do with the board and the owner. They don't want to spend.


 

 

14 May 2018 20:39:09
How far have we fallen that no top manager is interested in us?
Allegri-not interested
Tuchel- was not interested and went to psg.
Nagelsmann-not interested
enrique-deemed our salary low

From the so called list we drew up, it seems most of the top coaches are not interested in us. we are down to arteta and viera.

punani gooner

1.) 14 May 2018 21:07:18
I wouldn't panic just yet punani. Only tuchel out of your list is definitely not interested. Most of the "info" about the others at the moment can't be trusted.


2.) 14 May 2018 21:16:37
Of that list I can understand allgeri wants to stay loyal to a club he has won multiple titles with. Tutchel i'm not sure what he had done to be classed a top manager. What do others thing. Nagelsmann not a top manager yet. Hope we get him but haven't seen him rule himself out. And Enrique like tutchel I don't see the fuss about him especially with the stupid salary he wants.


3.) 14 May 2018 21:22:26
It’s not like that punani. Someone has to fit the profile and want the job. It won’t be Vieira or Arteta I’m sure of it.


4.) 14 May 2018 23:35:31
Allegri said he was staying at juve. He did an interview after the roma game and said he was staying. so definitely not interested.

The reliable german journo, honigstein came out and said that tuchel was interested in the arsenal job last season. He was contacted this season too after he got into talks with PSG. rebuffed the arsenal offer (IMO the perfect coach for arsenal at this point in time)

About nagelsmann, i believe he is not interested because he already rejected bayern. Why would he reject bayern and choose arsenal? There is also an AST (arsenal supporters trust member) who is fairly reliable when it comes to Arsenal rumours who said that arsenal made an enquiry regarding nagelsmann and it was rebuffed. They were not even given a response. That is a bit insulting

DG, tuchel is a top top manager. Tactically very good. incredible coach. His only issue is how he relates to the board and stuff but on the pitch Thomas is a genius. off the pitch is where he has an issue. Nagelsmann is in the same mould too. What is interesting is it is tuchel who got nagelsmann into management. When tuchel was at augsburg i believe, it was nagelsmann who used to do opposition research for him. Tucehl and nagelsmann are similar. The tiny difference i have noted is that nagelsmann especially this season has his teams playing lot of long balls so i guess that makes him a bit unpredictable especially against the big teams. He is not shy to try the odd long ball.

Years ago guardiola and klopp were interested in us but we lost both chances. In my opinion i think arsenal made the wrong choice in not going all out for guardiola, a one in a generation kind of coach. Everywhere he has gone he may not have won every time but he has left a tactical footprint. Till now the guardiola effect is being felt in germany, easily the best coach of his generation. He was the coach to establish arsenal as a global force but he is gone now. He might have won the champions league or set us on the path to winning it but that is all gone now.

Shows how far we have fallen that second tier coaches like nagelsmann won't even respond to our inquiries.


 

 

14 May 2018 11:44:09
Deep down i had a feeling that allegri would not come to arsenal. I had that feeling because we have an owner with zero ambition. That has been our biggest problem. It just didn't come to light because wenger is not the kind of guy not to moan about lacking funds. He is a gentleman in that respect. He keeps things in-house.

Kroenke once did an interview i think was on the standard newspaper, it did seem incoherent to me but what i could get from that interview was that he thinks spending is not the way to go. He even went further and said he admires what.

punani gooner

1.) 14 May 2018 13:27:41
He is happy with managing the biggest club in Italian football, a team in the CL who have reached the final and semifinal fairly often in recent years. Probably worth noting that he's not going to Chelsea either, which has the definition of an invested owner.


2.) 14 May 2018 15:29:16
kroenke does not want to invest and the team needs serious investment. six to seven new players minimum that is the only way we can compete regardless of who the next manager is even though it would help if we hired someone who is ahead of his time.

i can only see us falling further and further behind. Wenger was just the symptom of a larger problem. We have addressed the symptom but not the disease;the disease being an unambitious owner and a totally incompetent board.


3.) 14 May 2018 19:16:20
This could be the most over the top reaction to someone not wanting to join us.


4.) 14 May 2018 20:49:55
I agree. If it’s true and Allegri is out of the running, it’s no coincidence big name managers with a reputation to withhold like Allergi and Enrique are No longer front runners; its because of the board upstairs and their lack of ambition and no doubt budget disagreements. Arteta and co maybe great coaches but even Pep spends 200 mil a season.


5.) 15 May 2018 02:42:27
Kroenke sanctioned a ton of spending on players in the past few seasons. We just spent 50m on a 29y/ o striker in January, not to mention picking up Xhaka and Mustafi for huge fees, Lacazette, etc.

I have a lot of issues with Kroenke's management but sanctioning spending is not one of them, not when you compare it to things like pushing contract renewals and how we actually conduct the business of transfers in and out.


 

 

23 Apr 2018 22:43:52
The daily telegraph reporting that the new Arsenal manager has been restricted to a 50 million pound transfer budget. If that is true, this is a joke. Can't see any big manager being interested in the Arsenal job.

Seems wenger has been taking a lot of bullets for this terrible board and stingy owner. This team an investment of at least 200-300 million pounds, if we don't spend how can we challenge city united and the likes?

punani gooner

1.) 24 Apr 2018 06:33:35
How about you don't believe everything you read in the media? Their job is to stir up rubbish and generate clicks. They are capitalising on our uncertainty and the typical myopic nature of a football fan. Take every football report not officially released by the club as a mixture of horse manure and guesswork.


2.) 24 Apr 2018 07:58:02
Didn't the papers say we had no money left to spend before we got aubameyang.


3.) 24 Apr 2018 10:59:53
Didn't the Telegraph also say we'd have snow last week?
I think Pete Waterman must be the head of a new press association money making task force, The Hit Factory.


4.) 24 Apr 2018 12:04:16
The telegraph is not the daily mail. They are a bit more reliable. They were the first paper to report wenger was leaving irregardless of our europa league performance so they have a bit of merit. They are not the BBC though. I find David ornstein to the most reliable journo when it comes to arsenal.

I wouldn’t be surprised if that report is true and that we only have 50 million to spend because frankly kroenke isn’t the kind of guy who invests in his team. I think the truth will come out now that wenger is gone. If the new manager is relatively unknown you can bet he will have little money to spend, if it is a big name then that means this report is not true. I don’t think coaches like Allegri or enrique will come to Arsenal without being given a big transfer budget but i have a gut feeling that this is true and that the failures of arsenal over the years had a lot to do with the owner not investing in the team than wenger being a bad manager and i think that painful truth will come out now that wenger is gone.

{Ed001's Note - every paper has been reporting Wenger would go for years now.}


5.) 24 Apr 2018 12:34:51
I find Ornstein very reliable too mate and the bbc (on football) like this page tend to stick only reporting on something when there is actually something to report on.

All papers invent stuff to get hits as there just isn't enough real news scoops to make a living out of 365 days a year.

You can google just about anything you like and someone somewhere will have already written something about it somewhere at some point.

I bet if you type Pogba Ronaldo Messi Jose Pep to Arsenal I bet there is something fairly recent somewhere from someone on that subject.


6.) 24 Apr 2018 15:38:03
Towards the end of last year, i think david ornstein said that Arenal have no money for major signings. we might have bought aubameyang, but we also sold chambaerlain, walcott, coquelin. our net spend was negative i think. So i don't doubt this story of the telegraph. I am afraid there is some veracity to that story.

Every time we spent big, we always had to sell players. We might have bought lacazette and auabmeyang, but we sold useful squad players like the ox and giroud.

The important question is, will kroenke plough in 200-300m of his own money into the club to enable us to comepete with the manchester giants? i don't think so. which really means nothing will change at the club. The only good thing is that the anger will now be directed towards the board and stan koenke rather than Arsene wenger who was their punching bag.

{Ed001's Note - you have a large cash reserve in the bank, there is no need for Kroenke to put anything in.}


7.) 24 Apr 2018 19:44:56
Ed, are you ivan gazidis by any chance? :-)

{Ed002's Note - Kroenke cannot simply pour money in to the club.}


8.) 24 Apr 2018 22:04:58
Worst owner of any top six team in the premier league. Never invested a cent, doesn't attend matches, never talks to the media. Hope he gets out of the club soon. He is nothing but a leech and a parasite.


 

 

 

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05 Jul 2020 10:19:32
Great win yesterday. When wenger left the club, i was of the opinion that if we couldn't get tuchel, nagelsmann or allegri, we should have appointed Arteta instead of the underwhelming appointment of Unai Emery.

I sincerely believe if we sacked unai much earlier, we would have been closer to the champions league places. Arteta seems to have improved us especially defensively.

I hope we back him in the summer with some attacking signings.

punani gooner

1.) 05 Jul 2020 11:25:07
Emery was obviously a mistake but there are never any ganrantee who ever you appointment one way or the other, I'd have been horrified if we'd appointed big Tony as Arsenes successor but he mighy have shocked us all and been brilliant and equally I'd have loved us to have appointed Klopp before he went to Liverpool but who knows it may not have gone for us and Klopp as it's gone for Liverpool and Klopp.
It's only in hindsight we ever know anything for 100% one way or the other.


2.) 05 Jul 2020 11:39:34
The extra year and a half Arteta spent at City, including another league win, may have been crucial to his coaching us now.

Way too hypothetical to say anything either way.


3.) 05 Jul 2020 12:15:21
Totally agree Wire mate, it is what it is and for all we know it may all be working out in our favour long term, if we had more money would Saka Martinelli Eddie be getting there chance? Sometimes necessity can work in your favour as can things that look like a mistake initially be seen as crucial to the final outcome.


4.) 05 Jul 2020 12:48:25
gunner mate, though i agree with some of your points, i would want to differ on the issue of experience when it comes to coaching. I think ancelotti said something to that effect that experience is overrated. What matters more is the coaches grasp of tactical concepts, man-management and ability to read the game. Guardiola had no
no experience when he became the Barcelona coach and he went on to produce arguably the greatest team in football history. I just didn't want inexperience to be used against arteta. of course i had no idea about arteta's coaching ability, it was more of an opinion based on interviews i have seen from coaches like pochetinno, who seemed to rate him highly.


5.) 05 Jul 2020 14:36:09
Fair comment Punani mate, all I'm saying is " all's well that ends well" and sometimes what looks like a mistake or set back at the time can actually be seen as huge blessing when you look back at the overall outcome.

What if Brendan Rogers had spent the Suarez money better and finished either 2nd or 3rd for the next 5 seasons? Klopp would have gone elsewhere and Liverpool would be 30 years and still counting the years waiting to become premier league champions.

You can spend your whole life thinking what if or you can accept what is and trust that somewhere down the line it will all come good in the end.

" everything will be ok in the end and if it's not ok yet! Then it simply isn't the end yet "

Oscar Wilde I think said that :-) but if not whoever it was they were 100% spot on :-)


6.) 05 Jul 2020 22:28:27
fair gunner mate. there are so many what if's in our history. what if we signed maradona? arguably the greatest player of all times because he wanted to join us. what if we won the champions league final in 2006?what if cryuff joined us in 1996 instead of wenger? what if david dein never left? what if wenger left earlier and we replaced him with guardiola or klopp? So many what ifs.

But if you ask him what single event started the decline of Arsenal, i would tell you it was the departure of david dein. He was a businessman and a board member but he was willing to take risks and seemed to know about football. In my opinion he complemented wenger well. When david dein left, I heard wenger was so loyal to him, he wanted to resign too but dein urged him to stick around.

The current board is so inept. I wish we had someone like david dein on the board right now. we lack someone with a vision who wants to win at all costs. the moment we get an owner willing to win, we will kick on. Areteta says he wants to win and is urging the board to sign players. I think eventually either they will back him, or he will resign. arteta looks like a non-compromising character.


7.) 05 Jul 2020 22:54:16
Agree Punani mate, every great achievement in history started as the vision of Just one person with the initial idea.
David Dein met Arsene at a party and realised he was the man for Arsenal so set about brining him to Arsenal and the rest is history.
We need someone to emerge with the vision and abity to make every thing click again, be it player manager director of football or adviser to Josh.


8.) 05 Jul 2020 23:38:37
I think Arteta will be the catalyst for Arsenal's success, directly or indirectly. I don't think arteta will be like wenger who won't complain about transfers. I think he wil demand for signings and if not given what he wants, he will walk away at the end of his contract.

so either silent stan backs him or he walks away. If he backs him, i think we will win a title, if he doesn't back him and Arteta walks away, i think the fans will force kroenke out.


 

 

26 Jun 2020 00:33:31
Congratulations to Liverpool winning the league. They were outstanding and thoroughly deserved it.

Their success should not come as a surprise as they have everything in place-something that we are clearly lacking. A world-class coach, supportive owners, great scouting team and selling their players well.

Let's not forget that last season, when liverpool nearly won the league, they invested heavily. Over a period of one and half seasons, they spent:

van dijk-75M
fabinho-40M
Keita-52M
Shaqiri-13M
allison-56M

They didn't just buy players, they bought world-class players. I am sad it will never happen under kroenke.

punani gooner

1.) 26 Jun 2020 06:46:04
Those figures look big but as you say we sold to, couts for over 100m and then fringe players like Ibe and solanke for fees around 15m and 20m.

But who cares we are champions of England and I’m absolutely buzzing!


2.) 26 Jun 2020 06:50:44
But they also sold, check out there net spend.


3.) 26 Jun 2020 07:45:33
Didn’t we spend a similar amount on Pepe, Saliba, Torriera, Tierney and Leno. who spent better then you have Ozil, Granit and Mustafi.

The other side of the argument is letting Rambo go, Sanchez or Myk. they sell better also.


4.) 26 Jun 2020 08:52:07
Liverpool reached the champions league final before spending big.
They lost the champions league final that season but came back from that disappointment to win the champions league the next season
Last season they hit an unbelievable 96 points but somehow still didn't win the premier league but they didn't feel sorry for themselves they came bach even stronger and won it the very next season.
Jurgen Klopp and Liverpool football club have earned and built their success and any big signings only came in once outstanding foundations had already been established and they had made a very hansom transfer profit before the really big investments were made.
What has been achieved at Liverpool has been down to one man uniting the fans players staff and board behind his ethos where he demanded nothing less than 100% effort 100% of the time from each department.
An unbelievable achievement in such a short space of time, Just shows what is possible without the huge spending having to come first.


5.) 26 Jun 2020 11:45:07
We used to be held up as a role model club in terms of - financial model, buying well, selling at right time, getting good money and great scouting. We just aren’t there.

I think City and Chelsea purchased their trophies from money outside of running a good club / business.

I think Liverpool are where we were. Big club which has a financial benefit over others but generally well run, buy / sell well and play nice football. I think they are the role models now and I don’t begrudge them winning but rather see them as the blueprint for us.

Attitude, fast great football, difficult to beat and strong financial footings. Well done guys.


 

 

23 Jun 2020 21:42:50
In times of unprecedented crisis like this, i hope everyone on this forum is doing well. This are worrying times for everybody. I hope you guys are healthy and safe.

This are worrying times for arsenal football club as well. we are in utter mess that no matter what, i cannot see a silver lining. Every iota of hope has been squeezed out of me by our poor results and the direction where we are heading. i cannot see a way out sadly unless we fall so badly that stan kroenke has to sell.

Everything at arsenal falls on the doorstep of the owner. The buck stops with the owner. unless silent stan invests like 300 million quid, there is no way out. we need an overhaul. midfield cannot defend, cannot keep the ball and cannot create chances. Defence is utter rubbish and attack is disjointed. The quality in all areas of the pitch is wanting.

punani gooner

1.) 23 Jun 2020 22:29:02
I'm afraid investment gets us nowhere either, we have the wrong people in the powerful positions at the club, I can't remember who wrote on here about Sven Mislintant having a few months at the club and bringing in Guendouzi and Torreria, two players who have made the price tag look a no brainer, and Sven left because promises were not kept.

We are run by people who make deals based on agents, and that's going to make us consistently s**t. I can see Luiz getting a new contract because his agent is best mates with Raul.

The club is a rubbish show and it won't change soon. Such a shame.


2.) 23 Jun 2020 23:16:26
It is catastrophic that arsenal chose Raul's contact's based approach to Sven's analytics and data based approach.


 

 

21 Jan 2020 22:44:11
Excellent performance tonight by us against all odds. Arteta has surely improved us, especially defensively and should be backed in the transfer market.

that aside, i am no conspiracy theorist but in my entire years of watching football, i have never seen a series of bad refereeing decisions go against one team, like it has happened to us this season.

in the watford game, Deulofeu was encroaching on the penalty area for one of the goals. Against crystal palace, we scored a goal and the ref gave a penalty to zaha. An exact replica of the foul on pepe was not given against Sheffield united the other day. We were not awarded a clear pen against Sheffield united at brammal lane earlier this season too.

jorginho escaping a second yellow in the emirates game was one of the most shocking refereeing decisons ever. yet when we make a foul or anything we get red carded and penalties are given against us. It is shocking and completely unfair.

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1.) 21 Jan 2020 23:04:19
Such spirit! Great comeback by Bellerin, worked his socks off as did Saka and Martinelli. Never seen anyone as haunted as Mustafi and I can't help but feel for him. He did redeem himself somewhat and all in all I'm an extremely proud Gooner tonight 😊.


2.) 21 Jan 2020 23:26:37
Very gritty and confident performance. I’m with you p gunner.

Someone correct me if I’m wrong but isn’t T Abraham interfering with play by shift himself from not blocking the ball after walking from an off side position?


3.) 22 Jan 2020 01:34:53
yah chelsea's second goal should have been disallowed in my opinion. Even towards the end of the first half, emerson handled the ball. No free kick and VAR didn't bother to check. If it is arsenal, they will obsess over the decision for five minutes. The level of officiating this season has been shocking.


4.) 22 Jan 2020 08:57:06
Sometimes theses things go for you sometimes against you, that's football.
Liverpool certainly got the rub of the Var green before Christmas but it wouldn't surprise me if somewhere between now and May Var completely robs them of going the season unbeaten and of course Liverpool fans will feel var robbed them of being invincibles.
Fans of all clubs complain about refs costing them games points, titles or whatever but quickly forget all the wrong decisions that went their way in the past.
Rooney dived to end our unbeaten run on 49 games but Pires dived v Portsmouth very early in that 49 unbeaten run, no refs mistakes no invincibles, swings and roundabouts in my opinion Punami mate.

{Ed001's Note - how have Liverpool had the rub of the green? Two goals disallowed for armpit hair being offside, numerous (and I do mean numerous) blatant penalties not given etc etc. It has certainly not been helpful for Liverpool, it is just unlike the rest they do not whine about it and are good enough to just go and get the goals needed to make the bad calls irrelevant. It is not luck or VAR, it is a great team and manager that are winning by a huge margin because the rest are simply nowhere near as good.}


5.) 22 Jan 2020 10:03:48
You've taken that comment well out of what it was ever meant to be Ed001 mate, in no way shape or form do I think Liverpool have achieved anything through luck, if you look at all my previous comments on Liverpool and Klopp you will see just how much I admire everything that Klopp the players fans and club have achieved together.
To me and many other people it did seem that pre Christmas var decisions were going Liverpools way and some very important ones too but that doesn't mean I or anyone else is claimimg Liverpool aren't the best team in the world right now and are a brilliant example to everyone else what can be achieved without unlimited funds.
Every team no matter who they are or how good they are needs a bit of luck going their way every now and then mate be it Barcelona under Pep or Leicester city unders Claudio.

{Ed001's Note - but my point is those decisions were not going Liverpool's way, it just felt that way because all the ones that went against Liverpool were made irrelevant by the team going and scoring more. Some of the decisions the media are claiming were going in Liverpool's favour were clearly correct anyway. It is just that it gives them a chance to complain about VAR, which is their latest agenda. Anything VAR does is bad according to the media, even when it gets it right.}


6.) 22 Jan 2020 19:06:03
Hi Ed001 mate, Var to me is no better or worse than refs, it's way to clinical and reminds me health and safety rules, brilliant if common sense is applied but frustrating and infuriating if taken to extremes, I'd go back to the match officials alone personally.
Niether Var or refs effect who wins the league or gets relegated or makes top 4 or not, over 38 games decisions good or bad for or against pretty much even themselves out, I've always thought that.
This Liverpool and City are like nothing the premier league has ever seen before as the points totals in the last 2 seasons and will again this this season show. 90 points Just doesn't get you anywhere close these days.

{Ed001's Note - VAR should be an aide to the ref, nothing more. However it will not be done away with, so we just need to make it better instead.}


 

 

18 Dec 2019 14:10:02
I am cautiously optimistic about the appointment of arteta. i think he will be a success provided he is backed in the transfer market.

I hope the first thing arteta should do in the next few months is do what his mentor guardiola did, gut the dressing room and get rid of deadwood. I remember Ronaldinho, the great Ronaldinho, being one of the first casualties of the guardiola regime. I assume guardiola thought ronaldinho had a poor work ethic-something necessary in guardiola's game plan.

It is very important for a young coach to get rid of some players to establish authority. If the likes of auba won't buy into arteta's philosophy, i think they should be sold. Our attackers don't work hard defensively and am afraid this might bring problems between them and arteta.

nonetheless, i think it is a good appointment and a step in the right direction. I Hope the fans support him and stop moaning about his inexperience. He won't come good if we don't give him unwavering support.

punani gooner

1.) 18 Dec 2019 14:22:35
Well said Punani.


2.) 18 Dec 2019 15:02:06
I would 100% back a huge clear out Punami mate, where absolutely no one is untouchable and where only those who are both totally committed to and capable making Arsenal Football club the best it can possibly be again survive.
ripitupandstartagain.com says I.


3.) 18 Dec 2019 16:30:46
gunner62 mate, did you see what de bruyne said about our attackers? apparently, they noticed that they never track back. Now this is where it gets more interesting. Apparently, it is arteta who does most of the analysis on the opposition at City. What happens now when arteta asks this players to work harder? will they do as he says or will it lead to dressing room unrest? Will the board back arteta if he tries to cull the squad?

There are some players that have to go in my opinion. It is absolutely necessary that they are gotten rid of. In my opinion this ones are:mustafi, luiz, xhaka and ozil. In my opinion it is imperative that this players go.

And then there are players in the maybe category for me:I would prefer if they left but i wouldn't mind them staying. For me, this ones are:bellerin, kolasinac, sokratis, torreira, lacazette and aubameyang.


4.) 18 Dec 2019 17:14:54
If I was Artetta I'd be asking those questions way before I took the job Punami mate wouldn't you?
I'm absolutely sure the reason no announcement has been made is because both parties are weighing up the pro's and cons of working together and as much as Arsenal will want Artetta to impress them the feeling will be absolutely mutual fron Artetta I'm sure.
Artetta isn't desperately seeking Susan, out of work and looking to accept any job that comes his way, he's already got an excellent job and I'm sure he won't be giving it up unless he's happy with what he's walking into.
He will come on his terms or not at all I'm sure of that.


5.) 18 Dec 2019 21:47:33
Good original post PG, I agree 100%. It seems the doubters about Arteta are more about the current state we are in, and whether he can turn it around, rather than doubting his ability. Also many rightly question his lack of experience, but then I would say we just had a manager with bags of experience and trophies, and where did that get us? So should he come there is absolutely no guarantee he will do well, but there is also no guarantee that an Allegri or Ancelotti will do well either, and at least Arteta is already involved in the EPL currently, which actually might give him an advantage over the others? If I were him, the first call I would make would be to Martin Keown, to come in as a coach, as I think that would endear himself immediately with any doubters. Second call should be to Valencia to see how much they want for Geoffrey Kondogbia (that one is for me! ) .


6.) 18 Dec 2019 22:00:59
I certainly hope he comes on his own terms and clears out this overpaid, lazy prima donnas.


7.) 18 Dec 2019 22:28:03
Good post PG. No matter who is manager we need to change culture around the club. Hostility only makes things worse.


8.) 18 Dec 2019 23:01:48
I would prefer someone with more experience but if he’s our guy, I will back him and give him time

Hope they treat Freddie with respect as they’ve hung him out to dry as a caretaker coach.


9.) 18 Dec 2019 23:23:15
You read far too much into these things 62, quite amusing at times .

Probably the fact that he didn’t want to announce before their game at Oxford

What think you lol.


10.) 18 Dec 2019 23:38:18
Does reading too much into things include declaring Ancelotti as Everton boss on Monday ;-)
But really pleased I keep you amused sweet cheeks as that's most definitely the aim x x :-)


 

 

 

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16 Jan 2019 12:56:30
It is not a rumuor gunner. The very reliable honigstein and ornstein are reporting it. It is happening, sven is leaving.

The implications are horifying. How will Arsenal get back to the top when we let go off the best scout in the world and have no money to spend?

I am afraid we will go downhill from here unless we find an equally capable replacement.

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15 Jan 2019 23:36:24
Gunner ornstein is reporting it too and i am afraid it is happening.

Of all the guys who gazidis employed before he left, it is sven i have been most impressed with. Apparently there is is power struggle between raul and sven. If i was Arsenal, i would pick sven. This man has contacts even as far as japan, has strong connections in the german and french markets which produce many talents, why lose him when we don't have much cash and we don't want to migrate from our self sustaining policy? Why?

It is chaotic at arsenal and i am really unhappy with the direction sanllehi is taking arsenal.

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23 May 2018 00:03:00
Sanogo am still getting over guardiola to city 😩.

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23 May 2018 00:00:53
SinGooner will get behind the team. I am a fan first of all. I hope Emery proves me wrong. I'll be over the moon if we won the league or the champions league in the next 2-3 years. It is just that i have my doubts is all but for sure i'll get behind the team and support the boys.

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22 May 2018 15:06:54
Will give him a chance mate but his work at PSG was a massive under-achievement and he couldn't exert his authority. Players were dictating to him when it should have been the other way round. I have my doubts but will get behind the team. I'll be sincere it is an appointment that doesn't excite me. He is a B-list manager at best.

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06 Jul 2020 00:09:04
I would sell: lacazette, mustafi, Holding, sokratis, kolasinac, bellerin, torreira, xhaka, willock. ozil and guendouzi (not because of talent but because of bad attitude)

apart from guendouzi, the rest are either overpaid (ozil) , limited (xhaka, mustafi, bellerin, sokratis, willock, holding, kolasinac, lacazette) or not suited to the premier league (torreira) . Basically we need a massive clear-out.

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05 Jul 2020 23:58:48
The departure of sven was a backwards step in my opinion. we need a good technical director. ama fraid Edu is not up to the task. i thought when he joined we will be signing hot brazilian prospects but none is happening. All the best young brazilian players are going to real madrid. Yes he signed martinelli but martinelli is not on the level of players like renier and guimares. we seem to be signing rejects!

I am not liking Raul and his so called contacts book. I can understand signing pablo mari but why give a 4 year contract to a 29 year old southampton reject? He makes so many decisions that don't make financial sense. Why sign players using mainly super agents? Has anyone noticed that since Raul joined we seem to be signing players with super agents especially kia joorabchian? The same agent that wenger didn't want to deal with and reason being they are shady.

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05 Jul 2020 23:38:37
I think Arteta will be the catalyst for Arsenal's success, directly or indirectly. I don't think arteta will be like wenger who won't complain about transfers. I think he wil demand for signings and if not given what he wants, he will walk away at the end of his contract.

so either silent stan backs him or he walks away. If he backs him, i think we will win a title, if he doesn't back him and Arteta walks away, i think the fans will force kroenke out.

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05 Jul 2020 22:28:27
fair gunner mate. there are so many what if's in our history. what if we signed maradona? arguably the greatest player of all times because he wanted to join us. what if we won the champions league final in 2006?what if cryuff joined us in 1996 instead of wenger? what if david dein never left? what if wenger left earlier and we replaced him with guardiola or klopp? So many what ifs.

But if you ask him what single event started the decline of Arsenal, i would tell you it was the departure of david dein. He was a businessman and a board member but he was willing to take risks and seemed to know about football. In my opinion he complemented wenger well. When david dein left, I heard wenger was so loyal to him, he wanted to resign too but dein urged him to stick around.

The current board is so inept. I wish we had someone like david dein on the board right now. we lack someone with a vision who wants to win at all costs. the moment we get an owner willing to win, we will kick on. Areteta says he wants to win and is urging the board to sign players. I think eventually either they will back him, or he will resign. arteta looks like a non-compromising character.

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05 Jul 2020 12:48:25
gunner mate, though i agree with some of your points, i would want to differ on the issue of experience when it comes to coaching. I think ancelotti said something to that effect that experience is overrated. What matters more is the coaches grasp of tactical concepts, man-management and ability to read the game. Guardiola had no
no experience when he became the Barcelona coach and he went on to produce arguably the greatest team in football history. I just didn't want inexperience to be used against arteta. of course i had no idea about arteta's coaching ability, it was more of an opinion based on interviews i have seen from coaches like pochetinno, who seemed to rate him highly.

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