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21 Aug 2023 21:58:45
Anyone know about the gossip of a meeting between Pepe and arteta about him coming back to the squad seeing a lot of talk today.

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1.) 21 Aug 2023 22:52:02
I'd have pepe back. not sure he was the failure everyone made him out to be. but maybe there's a discipline element.


2.) 22 Aug 2023 14:08:31
he averaged a goal involvement every 2 games in his first 2 seasons, so certainly was not the failure that everyone made out, but his last of effort when the chip was down so to say was questionable.

and maybe represented in the fact that he is struggling to find a club, in that there has been interest but no one seems to have been able to agree personal terms. Makes me wonder if he is a bit lazy and just wants to be paid a lot for little effort.

I could very well be wrong, just a thought.


3.) 22 Aug 2023 20:32:49
I think he lacks determination, drive and the mindset to be a top player or it's just laziness as you say. There are people like that amongst us everyday people. Like some folks having adult children at home well in their 30s not even wanting to work. Later they wish they could roll back the years. He's 29 now I believe with the youthful years behind of his career behind him. Must be realising he has no where to go with no one wanting him.

Not sure about the money part someone slap a big price tag on him, which comes hand in hand with a huge salary.

All speculation! ?.


4.) 23 Aug 2023 20:44:39
Doesn’t say much if even the Saudis don’t want him!


5.) 25 Aug 2023 14:28:16
Perhaps he is one of those people who don't have high energy levels so appears to be lazy?


6.) 26 Aug 2023 17:45:36
Get rid, he hasn’t looked a 5 million pound player let alone 72.


 

 

11 Aug 2023 13:45:00
Any one heard of these links with barella of inter swap deal balogan and Tommy staight swap?

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1.) 11 Aug 2023 18:08:18
That would be an unbelievable piece of business and, if Edu can arrange it, would be up there with his best .


2.) 11 Aug 2023 18:47:28
Did hear that we were interested in him, and read that the press have seen that because they’ve shown an interest in Balogun and Tommy I think they’ve decided that’s a deal ?‍♂️, I’m not quite sure these “ swap” deals ever work as each individual player has a separate contract etc…. And of course all parties have to agree. I for one would be happy if there were any truth as both our boys unfortunately seem surplus to requirements.


3.) 14 Aug 2023 08:59:25
Balogun and Tomi won't add to 100 M which is what Ed002 says Inter wants for him .


 

 

09 Aug 2023 22:32:14
Raya deal is a 3m loan with an option to buy for 27m reports are saying.

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1.) 10 Aug 2023 03:36:51
If raya is entering his last year of contract, does this loan deal even make sense when you could possibly just go after him for free next summer?


2.) 10 Aug 2023 06:58:22
They have extended his contract by an extra year in case Arsenaldo not but.


3.) 10 Aug 2023 07:28:44
They extended his contract by a year so even if we don’t buy they won’t lose out and could still get a few for him after the loan deal.


 

 

 

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21 Aug 2023 21:53:02
Hi Ed is there a reason nobody can see my comments on live chat.

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{Ed033's Note - You should be ok on live chat next time.


1.) 22 Aug 2023 08:05:53
We could see them, but we just ignored you.

{Ed014's Note - that was funny, I was watching and he’s been banned, it’s vodka under another one of his sign offs, he came back after every one had left as Jonny long bottom and was being abusive about me and Mal which I just deleted.


2.) 22 Aug 2023 09:42:21
I ignored him as well

I’ve been banned quite a few times and I just took my 3 month ban and started posting again

Why would you try to get back on under another name

Take the ban

And I want to say fair play to the Raver he never done this he took it like a man.

{Ed014's Note - the trouble is when he comes back he cannot for the life of himself act like an adult.


3.) 22 Aug 2023 09:47:39
Ed14 is vm welshy.

{Ed014's Note - don’t know the answer to that one mate but most likely


4.) 22 Aug 2023 16:28:33
How has your run in with the ICC gone ed?

{Ed014's Note - I’ve got to fly out to the US and be interviewed by the head cheese at the FBI next week.

Luckily the Raver has offered to drive me to the airport to fly out in RG’s private jet.

I’m not expecting it to go well to be honest as the evidence is overwhelming and Vodka is the pilot! ?


5.) 22 Aug 2023 16:50:09
Ed 14 could you please post this and I’ll leave, I didn’t join for an argument I’m a 45 year old man, I’ve only posted a few times and not once have I had a go at amyone, I’m being told I’m a previous member which I am not, but I’m not going to argue over it, I have not rejoined the live chat under any name and abused anyone on there, I have nothing against Malaga or any other member, if members are ignoring me then there is nothing I can do that’s there choice but I’m asking you not to put things in peoples heads that are not true I know them not to be true that’s all I’m asking, I posted a few weeks back with some rumours I’d seen and had a little misunderstanding with Ed 2 that’s was it I havnt said anything else, if you could please post this and I will remove my account as there is no point having one if people have had there heads turned I’ll just go back to lurking thanks again.


6.) 23 Aug 2023 20:11:50
Ed014 you guys don't have access to the login ips? That would clear it up.

{Ed014's Note - we do sparky but it’s easy to use multiple IP addresses which makes it difficult.

For example the one used by TRO above has only ever been used once.

He’s posted on some 20 occasions since 29th July and of all those occasions each was a different IP address for 13 of them, 2 were used twice and another 3 times.


7.) 23 Aug 2023 21:55:05
Do any share ips with VM ED?

{Ed014's Note - no mate, they’re just one off hits except those 3 occasions when he used the same one more than once.

You just need a VPN and you’re sorted.


8.) 23 Aug 2023 23:12:12
It’s him we all know that

Let’s get sharpie to start a forum called GIMPS are US
I’m sure he will fit in perfectly.


 

 

21 Aug 2023 17:15:55
Who does everyone think will start tonight ramsdale or raya, I know raya started in the friendly last week against Luton but who starts tonight.

The real Oracle

1.) 21 Aug 2023 21:21:30
Ramsdale for now and please not Partey at right back again.


 

 

13 Aug 2023 15:44:20
First game back yesterday oh what a feeling there’s nothing better, firstly kai I don’t know what the boss see’s in him, he just doesn’t bring anything to the team, we won’t challenge for anything if he plays, Eddie I know he got a goal but the rest of the game wasn’t there, we need a striker, partey at right back another head shake, he so calm on the ball he has to play in the cm saka and GM look very sharp and it’s only the first game, but I’ll say it again Kai cannot be in this team it has to be partey rice and ode.

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1.) 13 Aug 2023 21:49:46
I’m inclined to agree Oracle. Havertz was very slow in possession and very predictable. If his role is to progress play through transition then he was badly found wanting yesterday.

He had very little intensity off the ball and when we had it he simply dropped into non threatening pockets of space to play a predicable and slow paced ball often so slowly that it had little to no impact.

Concerning if I’m honest. Not just his lack of aggression in the first game of the season, but also the fact Arteta opts to play him here. I’d love to know what he’s seeing in training everyday to justify selection because better sides will steamroll him if this is his idea of hitting the ground running and laying down a marker.

I know people are going to leap to his defence, but we’re not on hear calling for his head, merely calling a spade a spade and these were concerns I, among others, expressed could pose problems for us.

Havertz needs an attitude overhaul not just a change of scenery where he’s afforded the luxury of playing with the handbrake on while everybody else is expected to haul ass on the pitch.

There’s a phrase as old as the game itself; ‘if you can’t play well, work hard’.

If your going to do neither, you can expect to hear about it.

{Ed014's Note - it’s one game but he doesn’t do it for me, a pretty huge downgrade on Xhaka if that’s whose place he’s genuinely there to fill.

He sadly gives me massive Ozil vibes.


2.) 13 Aug 2023 22:39:18
Yeah hope its not another Ozil situation with Kai, we certainly can't be carrying luxury players so he certainly needs to up the intensity for me. He can't really play in a midfield 3 i don't think, and Partey can do a better job in there anyway which why the setup did not make any sense yesterday. Rule number 1 where possible play the best players in their best positions.

I just see him in false 9 sort of floating role bit like Trossard maybe not as much dibbling skill as Trossard but taller with more physicality that he can/ should use to maybe add another target option in the box with late runs. For me right now until he shows me a lot more to his game Kai is a forward option to use from the bench and should not be shoe-horned in the team to the detremant of the balance of our midfield.

I mean obvs he he a new player so we have to give him some leeway and support to settle in but matching work rate and intensity of the team mates is the starting point.


3.) 13 Aug 2023 23:36:33
Agree Ed.

But there will be games when the inferiority of the opposition or extra levels of those around him will see him perform and this is where you’ll have the argument for him made by fellow fans who feel he’s being hard done by.

The simple reality is that, no matter what club he had joined in what league, he was always going to have questions to answer based on his own attitude and standard of performance at Chelsea.

You would expect a player with a point to prove coming in under the direction of a manager who has backed him with another big money move, to showcase a desire to repay that faith, get the fan base on his side and set out to put a marker down to prove all his dissenters wrong.

There was very little evidence of that type of professional pride or drive on display yesterday. Yes, anyone is entitled to an off day or sub tomorrow at display. But as Ed is alluding to what is concerning is his Ozil-like indifference to his lack of influence on a game. He quite literally does not go out of his comfort zone to try inject creativity or stand up and change the momentum in a game.

He plays like a man who thinks it’s everybody else’s job to retrieve the ball and get it for him when he’s dropped off the pace into a non threatening area where the opponent is quite happy to allow him have possession relatively unchallenged where he will then play a ‘paint by numbers’ 10 yard pass to Martinelli to ask him to take someone on.

It’s not going to be enough and serious questions may need to be asked about the acquisition when all is said and done because there’s no way he offers more than ESR and to be honest if it was Fabio Vieira performing like that fans would be on his back.

I don’t think too many displays like yesterday will be tolerated, what do y’all think?

{Ed014's Note - agree mate, the fact I didn’t see him do anything to make his presence felt was a real concern. The simple pass and little movement could be achieved by me and you.

He even gave up on a ball at one point in the game with effort he could have got too.

I don’t want to have a downer on him but as you said a big E for effort would be a massive starter.

Partey, like Ryan said, is a quality player on the ball and he Rice and Odegaard right now is where our midfield would be strongest.

Let’s hope he is just settling in and shows us we don’t have a clue what we’re talking about.


4.) 14 Aug 2023 08:19:34
I admit that I only saw the first 30 minutes so I can't claim I saw much from Havertz, but Arteta and Edu saw a player in him and I'm willing to give them the benefit of the doubt - only been one game after all.


5.) 14 Aug 2023 11:43:39
I definitely don’t want to assume he’s a waste of money and really appreciate it’s only one game and it does take time to settle and I really hope he turns into the player he has the ability to be.

Just for info I’ve copied Ed01’s player profile of him below.

Havertz is an extremely creative young midfielder, one of those players that seems to glide across the ground rather than run. He did have a very difficult start to his time with Chelsea, but began to show signs of settling in nicely at the end of the season.

A mainly left-footed player, who favours coming in from the right onto that left foot, but he tends to look to pass, rather than shoot or cross. To me he needs to be more decisive, more confident and drive more into the box and look to take the shot, something I expect will come in time as he settles in properly.

Havertz also needs to work on his fight, he rarely wins a battle for the ball and clearly does not relish the physical side of the game. He wants the ball given to him in space or put into space for him to run into and use his pace.

Despite his skill and height, Havertz does not want the ball with his back to goal or in the air for him to head, that is simply not his game. In many ways he is reminiscent of Mesut Oezil in his play, particularly in the way he makes everything seem effortless, which can often result in a belief he is not trying.

Like Oezil, he likes to play an incisive pass slipped through a gap most players would not even be aware existed. That is the key, getting the ball to him in and around the box where he can make things happen.


6.) 14 Aug 2023 12:43:59
God I hope he’s not another ozil.


7.) 14 Aug 2023 18:57:15
As soon as we signed him i read that player profile too.
No doubt the "his body language is bad so he must be benched" type of comments will make a return which i absolutely despise as body language is probably one of the most pointless things to comment on.

I'm not going to say you're wrong for doubting him. I too think he has weaknesses, namely that lack of fight (from what i've seen he's not as docile as özil though) . But i think he's an intelligent player and that can go a long way. Just a few days ago he was part of a team that pretty much shut down City's playmaking. As a team you don't accomplish that without everyone putting in no less than an A grade defensive performance. To me that game was a proof of concept that he can work in this team.

I'm excited by this signing, i admit. I can also be wrong every once in a while though.


8.) 15 Aug 2023 09:49:59
Are we all forgetting that this ozil that everyone seems to hope that Havartz doesn't play like because of his body language has the record for the most assist in a single season, people seem to have forgotten the impact Ozil had on this Arsenal team when he joined. we won the fa cup before Sanchez came, who seems to get the credit for our first trophy in years and he wasn't even at the club. it was the signing of Ozil that started an upward trend again for us. people talk about body language and running around and giving 100% but used to complain that was all Xhaka offered and that wasn't good enough.
Berbietov used to get complaints about body language and I bet that we would love someone up top with his class and goals-scoring abilities.

Hazartz defiantly hasn't hit the ground running and I have the same concerns as most, but it feels a bit like a lot of us have already made out minds up that he isn't good enough, he is not going to get us 15 goals a season, he is not going to go running around at 100 miles an hour, but he is a good quality operator and he IS someone who seems to rise to the big moments. he certainly hasn't caused us any problems, has a couple of goals pre-season to settle himself and I do believe that he will contribute to some big moments for us this season.


 

 

09 Aug 2023 09:23:02
I don’t know if I’ve dreamt this or actually seen it hahaha but I’ve seen something somewhere that Jesus is out for 6 months, now as I’ve said it was either a dream or I’ve actually seen it somewhere, hate it when that happens hahahah.

The real Oracle

1.) 09 Aug 2023 11:49:35
Keep off the chocolate and cheese Oracle! ?I’ve only read it’s not as bad as first thought . Fingers crossed but liking Trossard or Kai as a temporary replacement COYG.


2.) 09 Aug 2023 12:54:28
That’s what I thought, but then i thought I’ve seen something we are after that striker from France wahi or somthing because Jesus is out for 6 months lol.


3.) 10 Aug 2023 05:32:35
Someone is destined to be sad and lonely.


4.) 10 Aug 2023 07:30:03
Who’s that.


 

 

08 Aug 2023 21:25:32
Rays was supposedly at the game - looks like a done deal.

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10 Aug 2023 07:28:44
They extended his contract by a year so even if we don’t buy they won’t lose out and could still get a few for him after the loan deal.

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28 Sep 2023 14:36:24
Is he me? Lol have fun guys.

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22 Aug 2023 16:50:09
Ed 14 could you please post this and I’ll leave, I didn’t join for an argument I’m a 45 year old man, I’ve only posted a few times and not once have I had a go at amyone, I’m being told I’m a previous member which I am not, but I’m not going to argue over it, I have not rejoined the live chat under any name and abused anyone on there, I have nothing against Malaga or any other member, if members are ignoring me then there is nothing I can do that’s there choice but I’m asking you not to put things in peoples heads that are not true I know them not to be true that’s all I’m asking, I posted a few weeks back with some rumours I’d seen and had a little misunderstanding with Ed 2 that’s was it I havnt said anything else, if you could please post this and I will remove my account as there is no point having one if people have had there heads turned I’ll just go back to lurking thanks again.

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18 Aug 2023 15:15:52
If Eddie plays Eddie scores his stats don’t lie, I’d love a world class forward but we have Eddie while Jesus is out, we didn’t struggle for goals last year but I do think we need a 20/ 25 league goals forward to take on mancity, I personally would sign fatu or fati or futi what ever his name is from Barcelona and give trossard or martinilli a shot uo top and have the Barcelona guy on the wing.

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10 Aug 2023 16:08:32
They are in talks with david de gea.

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10 Aug 2023 07:30:03
Who’s that.

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