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16 Nov 2019 21:39:11
Wouod any one be happy if we took the Sheffield United manager as our new manager I wouldn't mind I think. He sort our team out and make them more solid.

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16 Nov 2019 22:00:49
Not for me. He has done a tremendous job at Sheffield U, Arsenal is a huge step up. Mourinho would be my choice.

16 Nov 2019 23:01:39
I would not want Jose I think he would be worse than emery in getting the best out our players and I hate his style of football.

16 Nov 2019 23:21:26
It's hard to think of a manager who has a worse relationship with our club than serial whinger mourinho. He would have a lot of fans against him before he even started which would make the job incredibly difficult.

17 Nov 2019 04:19:34
Mourinho is one of the top managers in the world and has won trophies at every club he has managed. He sets teams up superbly, with a strong defensive base. I have a horrible feeling he may end up at the Toot and bring them success. He is a winner.
It amuses me to think that fellow Gooners would prefer the likes of Wilder and Dyche!

{Ed025's Note - if it was the mourinho of 5 or 6 years ago then im sure more would agree 911, but im afraid now he has become a dinosaur and a miserable one at that, you all wanted rid of arsene yet now you want to employ someone who was never as good as him and who,s teams play horrible boring football...i just dont get it, i know emery is not the answer mate but neither is the egotistical monster that is jose...out of the frying pan and all that, of course this is just my opinion..

17 Nov 2019 08:26:02
I agree with you Ed, Jose would be the worse choice to move us forward.

17 Nov 2019 08:29:20
I'm sick of hearing Mourinho described as a serial winner, in the 70s and 80s everyone I knew was a serial winner, I once won a brilliant Frisbee in a packet of Frosties and a really cool little gadget that went in your bike spokes which made your push bike sound like a motor bike but I don't keep on about it!

17 Nov 2019 08:40:06
Hi Ed, thank you for your comment. I think we will have to beg to differ. The first half of Wenger’s time at Arsenal was super silverware, the second half, post David Dein was not particularly good and was only saved by 3 FA Cup wins and CL qualification in all bar the last couple of seasons. Mourinho’s trophy haul is astonishing, winning sliverware at every club he has managed, including 2 CL trophies. I believe Wenger only ever beat a Mourinho team once.

Mourinho also had some very exciting teams, with tactics that win matches. I recall Chelsea’s home record being astonishing under Mourinho. He is of course a contentious manager. He winds opponents and their fans up mercilessly. He is possibly the only manager who could get the better if Wenger. The ‘specialist in failure’ comment still grates. Even winding Wenger up so much that Wenger went for him physically!

Of course his methods mean he tends to last 2 or 3 years at clubs, but what a 2 or 3 years. Trophies and passion. Clearly Emery is not the man to bring success, replacing him with the likes or Dyche or Wilder is absurd. Brendan Rodgers would be good, but he is in a job. Allegri would be another shout, if he speaks good English.

17 Nov 2019 14:51:35
Dyche and Wilder both look desperate options until you compare them to Emery when they suddenly become worthy of serious consideration.
If we are looking for someone to take us back to the top of the game them obviously neither Dyche or Wilder would get many votes of support from anywhere but if your lookingfor improvement on Emery I think 99% of fans would back them to achieve that.

17 Nov 2019 15:02:42
I did briefly entertain the idea of Mourinho, on the basis that some defensive stability would come from his appointment, and out of complete disillusionment with Emery. However, I don't see him as a good fit for us. He was next to hopeless at Man United, who as far as I can tell went out and bought the players hen asked for, only for him to later publicly slag off their abilities.

Perhaps also, there is a historical prejudice given his relationship with the club. I know its irrational but he was hardly a courteous adversary.

I can't see Rodgers moving from Leicester just yet, Allegri does not speak especially good English (might not be a problem) , Tuchel strikes me as a bit aloof (not that it matters too much) , I could see a youngish English manager like Eddie Howe being given a go. I know he's not a favourite in many peoples eyes, but I think he would get more out of our current squad than emery.

17 Nov 2019 16:38:52
Hi Urban mate I think Howe comes into the better than Emery category which isn't particularly exclusive club to get into but who is our perfect fit? The answer is just impossible to know prior to it being proven one way or the other, Klopp at Liverpool and Gardiola at City as was Wenger at Arsenal and Fergie at United were all only perfect fits in hindsight and were all a gamble at the outset.
Appointing a manager is like signing a player it's always an educated guess at best rather than a foregone conclusion, going for the obvious as United did with LVG and Mourinho can as easily be a mistake as can going for the virtually unknown as Arsenal did with Wenger and Porto did with Mourinho mk1 can be spectacular success.
The only potential candidate I have really strong feelings about either way is Jose who's appointment would be the lowest point in our history and flush our fantastic reputation built over more than 100 years for being very decent and honorable club down the toilet in a split second.

17 Nov 2019 19:57:25
NO! NO! NO! Mourinho.

17 Nov 2019 21:10:02
Absolutely Davy, he is most definitely not for Arsenal mate.

18 Nov 2019 07:49:28
I find it astonishing that fans would prefer Wilder, Dyche and Howe to serial winner Mourinho.
We will end up a Bournemouth, a Burnley or a Sheffield United.
I understand that fans took a dislike to Mourinho, as his results against Arsenal have been depressing. However, he would, without doubt sort the club out and win trophies.

18 Nov 2019 10:08:25
911, you need to forget about the 'serial winner' thing. That doesn't automatically make Mourinho a perfect candidate. You also need to realise that these so called 'serial winners' have to start somewhere and that's usually at a club that's a lot smaller. Don't get me wrong, I am not saying that Dyche, Wilder or Howe are perfect candidates but I certainly will say that Mourinho isn't one either. The manager needs to fit the mould of the club and Mourinho doesn't do that.

{Ed047's Note - the serial winner thing is just laughable, Wenger was once a serial winner and once Mourinho was.

And like you say nothing about the classless Mourinho fits this club.

18 Nov 2019 12:32:41
Better to compete with Bournemouth and Sheffield United without Mourinho than Real Madrid with him if they were the only two options which of course they are a very very long way from being the only options possible.
We are Arsenal football club and yes we want to be successful as much as anyone but there are limits to what we allow ourselves to become in the pursuit of success.

18 Nov 2019 12:56:10
Have a look at Mourinho’s trophy haul at every club he has managed, it’s astonishing. Yes, he iserial winner.
Given the choice of Mourinho or the three English candidates mentioned fans of the other PL clubs would without doubt want Mourinho. If I wasn’t such a devoted Arsenal fan I would like to see the outcome of Installing any of the three Brits mentioned.
We tried Rioch and it failed miserably.
Clearly there is no point trying to convince advocates of Dyche and Wilder that Mourinho is a far better proposition for Arsenal.

18 Nov 2019 14:21:23
Mourinho would be a gamble Just like everyone else would be, there is no guarantee of success no matter who you appointment.
The only guarantee that would from Arsenal appointing Mourinho would be that we would have sunk to an all time low in our very proud and extremely honourable history.
We are not and never have been perfect as a club but we've always had a very high standards in attempting to do not just what's right on the field but to be respectful and decent off the field of play too.
Jose Mourinho has been a very good manager in his career, will he ever be again? Who knows but he most certainly isn't the man to represent Arsenal football club in any way shape or form that's for 100% certain.

18 Nov 2019 15:43:38
That'll be because he isn't. History may state that he's won a few trophies but it did with Emery as well did it not? Nagelsmann is the best option but it won't happen. I think Arsenal will head down the ex-player route personally but we will see at the end of the season.



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