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17 Oct 2019 08:02:40
Just read an article on Leno being our worst premier league keeper ever because he only keeps 1 clean sheet in every 5 games, what a load of Toshiba.
By that token De Gea must be Uniteds worst premier league keeper ever having been between the sticks during the last 5 seasons which has seen them finish outside the top 4 on 3 out of 5 occasions after being the premier leagues most dominant force previously.

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17 Oct 2019 10:27:09
We finally agree on something G62!
Statistics can make utter nonsense of a keepers performance.
I believe we have two quality keepers at present.
Interestingly we have kept 4 clean sheets in the last 6 matches. I have a feeling that a back four of Bellerin, Holding, Luiz and Tierney could reduce the amount of goals conceded. Whilst playing a couple of more defence minded defensive midfielders could also help to reduce goals conceded, this would come at a cost to the attacking side of our game. So Torreira and Chambers (yes G62!) could protect the back four, but Xhaka and Guendouzi would be more creative.

17 Oct 2019 11:31:51
Unfortunately for your stats RG this was a premier league article and didn't include league cup or Europa league games. so obviously 4 clean Sheets suddenly becomes 1 in 4 and much closer to our average mentioned in the article since Leno became our keeper, the point is Leno faces more shots per game than any other keeper in Europe's top 5 Leagues so he would have to be the world's best keeper ever by some distance if he also kept most clean sheets too.
The article is Toshiba because it paints a very false picture about Leno as a keeper.

17 Oct 2019 12:20:58
Now this is a better post than the usual drivel that is posted.

Interesting stats and points of views put forward.

Am I on the right page? No emery or Granit bashing.

17 Oct 2019 12:33:54
Hi Mark always good to hear from only person on earth who realised in May 2004 that Arsene Wenger was a fraud ;-)
You must be laughing your head off at Liverpool and City fans being stuck with Klopp and Gardiola, hope you've warned them all :-)

17 Oct 2019 14:32:24
Bloody great shop stopper - hopefully his decision making at crosses improves with age. If so, that’s an amazing bargain

Back four - Bellerin, Holding, Chambers and Tierney - sorry but I can’t have that Luiz in my back 4. He’s terrible and lacks a defensive mindset. Not fit to clean Keown‘S boots.

If he must play - CDM rather than Granit.

17 Oct 2019 14:34:34
62 - what’s wrong with Toshiba? They used to make great cassettes although TDK was probably better. Remember winding the tape up with your pencil. just as easy as winding Malaga up.

17 Oct 2019 14:56:26
SY, you do post some bollox 😀🇮🇪

Good job I like you.

17 Oct 2019 15:10:15
Toshiba came up on predictive text wheh i wrote tosh SY mate and because I thought the article was so totally misleading in its use of stats in order to make Leno look poor I decided to leave Toshiba in as for some very strange reason I felt it highlighted my contempt for the article at the time :-) as for winding up the Spains answer to Mary Whitehouse? As if :-)

17 Oct 2019 15:12:32
Which post : I meant shot stopper.

Do you want Luiz in our back for? I really would rather see him in the stands but he’d probably do less harm than Granit while also playing his Hollywood passes

We need spell check on this site.

17 Oct 2019 15:42:19
I wouldn't play Luis in a flat back 4 SY mate, in a back 3 or holding midfield but not as a CB in a 4.
I know a lot of people are looking forward to Holding returning but he too has struggled in a flat back 4 with all his best performances being in a back 3, so if both Luis and Holding thrive in a 3 but struggle in a 4 would it not make sense to actually play a back! Never mind that would never work, playing a system that suits the players you actually have rather than keep playing your ideal system without the right personel to carry it out effectively.

17 Oct 2019 16:57:50
as MG said earlier, finally!

i follow this site religiously but don't post much. but i like talking tactics so couldn't resist.

in my opinion sokratis should be dropped. a pairing of chambers or holding should be tried with luiz in a flat back 4 and if that doesn't work then let holding and chambers have a go. with a back 5 so many of our players can't play to their strengths. a flat back 4 is the only way forward.

also i would really like y'all to let me know what you think about this. if ozil was moved into a deeper role, much like pirlo played for juve and ac milan. i'm not saying he's as good as pirlo but when it comes to passing and vision he is still one of the best in the world. pair ozil with a DM like lucas and play a box to box MF like ceballos or willock.

pirlo was also paired with DM players like marchisio or gattuso to offer protection, because he was never an amazing tackler and chose to only cover his zones much like how ozil operates.


______________Leno_______________

bell cham/ holdin Luiz tierney

Torriera (DM)

will/ ceb Ozil

Laca (CF)
Pepe Auba

what do you guys think? would that bring more stability and creativity that we desperately need? am i a dreamer? COYG!

17 Oct 2019 17:35:18
For me h2z Holding and Luis is the worst combination we have in a CB pairing based on everything we've seen from them individually in a paring while playing a flat back 4.

Leno
Pappa Luis Chambers/ Holding
Belerin Torreira Guendouzi Tierney
Cellabos
Lacasette and Auba

For me mate
With a bench of
Matinez
Chambers/ Holding
Maitland Niles
Wilock
Ozil
Matinelli
Pepe.

17 Oct 2019 19:22:02
I am always concerned about our fullbacks and a Luiz in a back four as they bomb forward and I don’t see Emery addressing that so a back 3. It is for me.

Leno
Chambers Papa Holding
Belerin Torreira Luiz Tierney
Ozil
Lacasette and Auba

Replace Papa with the new signing next season as well as Mavropanos. Still don’t like the back 3 with Paoa there but needs must as the other two need an experienced head to help them. Torriera and Matteo would concern me on their own in the middle do add a bit of height, bite, experience and distribution with Luiz.

Ideally replace Papa and Luiz and Granit.





 

 

 
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