24 Oct 2017 09:41:29
Shows how far we have fallen - if Arsenal beat you away from home, you get sacked!


1.) 24 Oct 2017
24 Oct 2017 10:17:49
I think it was the way they were beaten that was the problem mate.
They weren't good with 11 men on the pitch but when Gueye left the field it looked like half the other players went with him.
I like Koeman and think he will bounce back somewhere but if ever a club had to do something it was Everton, clubs sack managers far to easily these days but I think Everton had little choice because something somewhere had gone very wrong.

{Ed001's Note - you wouldn't like him if you knew him mate, incredibly arrogant man which is what actually cost him his job. You know he refused point blank to get involved in any of Everton's community work?}


2.) 24 Oct 2017
24 Oct 2017 10:30:39
I thought that was the weakest Everton performance against us I have seen and Koeman had clearly lost the team, so the sacking came as no surprise. Silva or Dyche would be a good fit, whilst Moyes would be a mistake in my opinion. Fat Sam could do a decent job for them, even though their fans might not want him.


3.) 24 Oct 2017
24 Oct 2017 10:53:39
Fair play Ed001 mate, just goes to show how easy it is to form an opinion about someone based only on TV interviews.
I've always thought managers players to should be interviewed as in the real world where someone is not only given a job on thier ability to do a job but on their personality and attitude too because it's no good having an individual who disrupts more they improve the current work force.

{Ed001's Note - managers usually do have to go through an interview process. Which is why I found the Everton recruitment of Koeman such a huge surprise, as I did say to Ed025 at the time. He is just not a fit for a club like them. A very limited manager with an insane arrogance. Everton are a friendly, community club and need a manager to fit that profile. Like you said in another thread about horses for courses, some managers just fit some clubs.}


4.) 24 Oct 2017
24 Oct 2017 11:27:18
Totally agree Ed001 mate, I sometimes think clubs ignore the things that don't suite about a manager Because of his previous record or what the fans and media might want at the time, sometimes you've just got to be honest with yourself and admit what is there rather than what we want to be there.
Before I interviewed anyone I would have a list of what is important to the club and be honest about things that were not up for debate from the clubs view and if the preferred candidate isn't on board then it's a bad match between you and them and should go no further.
I think it should be similar with players too, you bid 50 million for someone you don't even know on a personal level, you can ask other about them but why not take the time to say " what can you give us? " Every bit as much as try and sweet talk them about what you can do for them, if they ain't prepared to sell themselves to you then chances are they ain't coming for the right reason. Just my opinion :-)

{Ed001's Note - I fully agree mate.}