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21 Apr 2018 01:27:28
Hi Eds,

Any idea who the guys on our managerial short list are?

{Ed002's Note - The two that the club have had in mind for a considerable time as the preferred options were Carlo Ancelotti and Diego Simeone. This dates back as far as last summer when, as I explained, something happened that meant Mr Wenger was very close to leaving. They did not go away in the mind of the board and certainly Carlo Ancelotti is a serious contender.

On the plus side Carlo Ancelotti is available, lives in London and is interested in the position and can work within the revised management structure that Arsenal is putting in place. His age, Carlo is close to 60 now, might actually favour him as well as it may allow a succession plan with a future younger manager might be an attractive option. And that might open the door to an ex player (perhaps Henry, Bergkamp or Arteta or whoever to move in to a supporting role after gaining more experience.

As for Simeone, he can pretty much be discounted as an option.

I am told that Max Allegri has effectively replaced Diego Simeone as the second preferred option but there are several complications that cannot be discounted. Perhaps one to keep in mind.

I would not discount Leonardo Jardim being considered but he has does have a job right now and in my view he is not a strong enough character for the role and would therefore be a risk. I spoke with someone senior from the scouting organisation who had been at a Monaco game a couple of months ago and apparently Jardim asked him about the position and the club then. As such he might still be keen himself.

Lucien Favre might make a very good wildcard for you to think about and although already in a job, he might prove to be someone the club would like to talk to. I can say another club is very keen on him taking over.

Due to something else that is going on, regardless of past issues with SM, I would discount Thomas Tuchel from Arsenal but I can see him working with Wenger soon.

Joachim Low has been mentioned as an option but it is difficult to see him wanting any discussions until after the Euros and I expect he will want to see out his contract with Germany after signing an extension to 2020).

Another that I understand was discussed by the board is Paulo Fonseca – but for me the risk is too high and his immediate future has seemingly now been resolved in any case – I would strike him from the list.

In terms of ex-players, fans seem to always be keen on them taking over but it is generally not a particularly good idea and can easily end in tears. From those who know better than I, Patrick Vieira is the only one suitable of perhaps being considered a viable option at this time. And it needs to be taken in to account that he has a good opportunity where he is now. The likes of Thierry Henry, Dennis Bergkamp, Robert Pires and Mikel Arteta are simply not right at this time and should not, I hope, be considered.

So that is about what I know. I need to talk to a couple of people now that Mr Wenger has actually clarified the situation. If you have questions about others I will try to answer them.}

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21 Apr 2018 08:08:08
Superb reply. Thanks ed.

21 Apr 2018 08:11:30
Thank you ed for the list, can I just ask who you think the best manager for the job will be?

{Ed002's Note - The fans would I think like Lucien Favre's style of play and I think he would be a decent fit. Carlo Ancelotti would be a near perfect fit as he is adaptable, very easy to get on with, used to working in a structure with a string Director of Football, very much liked by players and respected throughout the game because of the success. So I would go with Carlo.}

21 Apr 2018 10:27:28
No nagelsmann or tedesco? I feel like this two are the two best young mangerial propspects. They would represent a new diection for our club and i think we should go for one of them.

{Ed002's Note - No, they are not viable options for Arsenal.}

21 Apr 2018 13:48:09
Thanks Ed! Carlo is my option too. Superb info as always.

21 Apr 2018 15:29:03
That Carlo Ancelotti is even considered a main option given the speed with which Bayern and Real got rid is sad. We need a young innovative coach.

21 Apr 2018 15:46:10
I should imagine the young innovative coaches may be deemed as not ready yet by the people selecting. Ancelotti may not be my first choice but he will be a sensible choice.

21 Apr 2018 17:19:33
Agree with you gabo ancelotti suits teams that have a lot of star players. He is a great man-manager but he surely won't improve Iwobi's shooting. I always vouched for someone like tuchel because they are very tactical and they also work on minute details about a player i.e stuff like how a player moves, how he shoots, body postioning etc that is how tuchel was able to improve players like aubameyang and mkhi and we need someone like that because we don't have the resources to compete with Manchester clubs and ancelott, allegri, enrique are not coaches like that. Allegri is the best of the bunch that was suggested because he is tactically good noone can deny that and he is animated and a great motivator but i doubt he would improve iwobi's shooting and the new school of german coaches are good at that. They work on every aspect of a player to an extent that a team would over-perform. That is why schalke will finish second this season and why nagelsmann finished fourth with hoffenheim last season even though quality wise they were not even goood enough to be in europa and that is who arsenal need someone who can overperform and the best choice would have been tuchel but he is off to PSG so that leaves us with nagelsamnn and tedesco. i hope the club will be brave enough to make such a choice.

{Ed002's Note - The club will not be making any such choices - they have zero relevant experience with any sides at the level of Arsenal. I also think you perhaps don’t understand how these managers and coaches work.}

21 Apr 2018 17:36:48
Thanks Ed002, superb information.

21 Apr 2018 18:04:52
Punani, i have to laugh at some of you twisted opinion, or should i say opinions twisted to suit your arguments. Sometimes a manager/ coach just knows how to win major trophies. All the coaches you mention however you rate them have won nothing compared to the ones you say (that have managed to win recent top leagues and champs league) are not good enough is laughable. i'm sure any coach if we manage to get one that has multiple major trophies to his name, we should be honoured. Neither guarantee anything though. We will all like or dislike the appointed coach but that's only opinion.

21 Apr 2018 18:07:05
By the way punani, i do like you enthusiasm. And thanks ed02 great knowledge passed on these last few months on the subject.

21 Apr 2018 21:11:57
Thanks steve for the compliment but i don't think we in a position where we can compete for trophies.

Our first team is not quite the ticket old chap. if we are to compete for trophies with coaches like ancelotti we need at least to sign 6-7 first team players with emphasis on goalkeeping, central defence, right back, defensive midfielder, box to box midfielder and both wings. That is a minimum of 7 positions. can we do that in one transfer window? Definitely not. Do we even have the resources i am not sure.

So that means we need a coach with a strong tactical approach ancelotti is not. He is a man manager a great one at that. He is decent tactically because he is italian. Italian coaches are generally decent tactically but tactically he is not the best available.

The best coach tactically in my opinion today is tuchel but he is off to PSG but there are a younger generation of german cocahes schooled in that approach. They are analytical but also inspired by guardiola's philisophy of positional play. nagelsamnn for instance counts guardiola, wenger as some of his influences. His training is unique. Don't think there is any english premier manager who conducts training like nagelsmann.

steve, it is unfair to judge a manager solely on what he has won. The best parameter to use in my opinion is what resources he has at his disposal. Nagelsamnn and tuchel have achieved and over performed relative to the resources at their disposal. That is why they will suit arsenal, a club with a limited budget.

21 Apr 2018 19:17:01
Ed 02, you didn't mention brenden rodgers, is it paper talk and hot air. Thanks.

{Ed002's Note - I know nothing of any Arsenal interest in Brendan Rodgers. Hence I did not mention him. There were other I also didn't mention. I am not hip to what the papers say I am afraid Steve.}

21 Apr 2018 21:37:13
Great Ed02 that's the best response possible.

21 Apr 2018 21:41:09
You are twisting again to suit punani, winning trophies at the highest level is not what they have done and they are not proven, whatever your spin on them is. You even mention arteta, wow, better than a guy who has won the champs league, i don't know what logic you use but it doesn't wash with me.

21 Apr 2018 22:40:17
Lol steve. We can agree to disagree ill take Allegri though he is not my favorite choice but all the other names like ancelotti, rodgers and enrique would dissapoint me. No one can doubt his in-game tactics. He is the kind of coach who could be losing a game and then make a tactical tweak or a substitution and boom he is back in the game.

Enrique and rodgers are both terrible managers. People forget that enrique finished 7th with a roma team full of quality starts. He is terrible and an arrogant prick. All you need to do is watch his interviews and how he talks to the press. Rodgers is a fraud. Pretending to be a guardiola with a notepad. If rodgers gets the Arsenal job. i'll be nauseated for a week.

22 Apr 2018 07:06:28
Thanks for the knowledge ed don't know much about Favre is he a good coach but Carlo is someone I have liked for years and still has a lot to offer so if be happy with him when he was Chelsea manager they were scoring for fun and enjoyed his style of play.







 

 

 
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