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29 Dec 2018 21:42:45
Terrible performance. we were shambles especially at the back.

Can't fault Emery much. He has a rubbishty squad. How many of our players will get into that Liverpool team? Maybe only torreira and aubameyang. How do you expect emery to compete with such a team?

Where is this club heading to? What vision does the owner have? So many unanswered questions.

I have always said that Arsenal's biggest problem wasn't wenger, it was the owner and it still is.

So long as kroenke is around, we will be going around in circles. The club needs serious investment in personnel. There is no going about it. The so called self sustaining policy is just an excuse not to spend.

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29 Dec 2018 22:03:13
Punani, wenger was our problem, that's why we are where we are today but i obviously agree, kronk needs to nail his colours to the mast and let Dick get what he needs.

29 Dec 2018 22:03:23
Been banging that drum for years - they don’t want to invest enough to compete but just enough for top 4. Wenger wasn’t held accounable as he maintained top 4. Board has no ambition. Sad but true. Does Emery have the desire to demand funds that compete - who knows. Hope so as I want m Arsenal back.

29 Dec 2018 22:05:04
Soon the spotlight will be on Kroenke if he is responsible for what the club has become. We will find out in the coming window and that in the summer. Hope we bounce back.

29 Dec 2018 22:13:37
January will give us more idea of what The club Sven and Dick are going to do about the obvious problems we have.
No new defenders and improvement is virtually impossible to see happening as Dick looks to have Exhausted all current possibilities without any sign of improvement.

29 Dec 2018 22:18:58
Willy - I hope so.

Ex-Liverpool midfielder Nigel Spackman thinks Arsenal have gone backwards under Unai Emery this season and need to focus on qualifying for the Champions League by winning the Europa League.

Keown slamming the lack of work and quality in defence

Feeding on scraps since we moved to the new ground.

29 Dec 2018 22:22:18
I'm still struggling to understand why the club made poor old Arsene buy Mustafi Xhaka for 70 million and a host of other poor buys with their money.

29 Dec 2018 22:37:06
Kroenke doesn't communicate, he is almost Machiavellian. The fact that he rarely communicates shows the level of disdain he has for the fans.

{Ed0333's Note - how much does Roman communicate with the fans? He’s been pretty successful at winning titles.

29 Dec 2018 22:39:25
gunner mate apparently wenger was against ozil's new contract and he did not approve of mustafi signing. apparently mustafi's signing had to do with statdna.

29 Dec 2018 22:41:12
Issue still exists and we need some change at the top in the board:

Liverpool are reportedly on the verge of bringing Borussia Dortmund’s Christian Pulisic to the club in January after they bid £45m for a player Arsenal wanted to pay £35m for.

{Ed0333's Note - who said Liverpool are buying Pulisic in January?

29 Dec 2018 22:43:13
62 - I don’t disagree. BUT any club with the right control would ensure there is the right sign off before it parts with 30m. The board allowed it to happen and accepted the performances. I am not excusing Wenger by the way but I am concentrating on the future.

29 Dec 2018 23:10:10
The clubs gone backwards since Arsene left? Nigel Spackman your memory isn't your strong point is it!
Today was horrible but hardly unusual at Anfield, not to mention St Mary's Stamford Bridge Old Trafford or most other grounds in recent seasons.
Today wasn't good enough but hardly anything we haven't experienced frequently in recent years, we've a long way to sink yet before we are worse than before Dick arrived Nigel me old boy.
Today was horrible awful and simply unacceptable but we've know a lot lot worse under Arsene and let's not pretend otherwise and paint over the our true past.

29 Dec 2018 23:18:26
Punani, wenger was rightly against ozils new contract but only because it put him on more money than him. He was right but for the wrong reasons.

29 Dec 2018 23:27:22
True point 62 - as always :)

30 Dec 2018 01:37:00
Steve you really need to get a grip of the fantasy you have going on. Wenger isn't our manager, Emery is. No manager is world football comes into a new club and magically gets the 11 new players he wants or needs. They all make do with what was there before and then add. Most do very well with the payers they have. You can't reasonably expect any sane person to buy into this whole "It's still Wenger's fault" routine you have cooking.

And this "Wenger didn't want Ozil to earn more than he did" story, let me guess, you read it online at one time. If it's on the internet, it must be true.

The bottom line is that our latest capitulation is no more Wenger's fault than it is Emery's. These players just aren't putting in the performance. They don't play for club, the don't play for manager, they don't play for fans, and even worse, they don't play for self pride. They're a bunch of spineless numpties.

30 Dec 2018 04:33:50
Steve steve Steve, I’ve never heard so much garbage out of one persons mouth, that Ozil Wenger comment, I can’t take you serious after that,

{Ed001's Note - I can tell you exactly why Wenger was against Ozil's contract and it was nothing to do with Wenger's money, though he did think managers should be on more money than players, he had accepted it couldn't happen. The reason Wenger was against it was simple, it meant he was earning too much more than the other players. Wenger tried to keep all the wages within a small spread in an attempt to stop jealousy amongst the squad. He didn't want one player on so much more than the rest of the team as he knew it just meant that every other player would demand much bigger contracts as a result. With good reason as Ramsey did exactly that.}

30 Dec 2018 04:56:28
Thanks for clearing that up Ed001; another myth busted!

{Ed001's Note - very welcome. It is something Wenger has spoken about at length publicly on a number of occasions. He did believe the man at the top should be paid the most, as they are in most businesses, ie the CEO. And then the manager. Then the staff. But he had long since realised that was not possible and broke that rule when he signed Sanchez and Ozil had a 'match highest paid player' clause which put him ahead of Wenger. So he was already on more than Wenger (by a small amount but still). I can see his point, when you hand one player an increase, every other player starts looking at their own pay packet and complaining. On the other hand, it can be a good motivational tool - if you play well then you can also get a pay rise. I think the key to it all is whether or not it adversely affected the wage budget, which was already groaning under the weight of new signings on substantially larger salaries than the players who were there previously.}

30 Dec 2018 05:14:21
Thanks for clearing that up ed, rather than hear say from silly posters lol.

{Ed001's Note - to be fair, as I pointed out steve's post did have a sound foundation, as Wenger has often talked about not wanting players being the highest paid in the club. So it is easy to see where he got the idea from.}







 

 

 
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