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14 Oct 2018 14:46:28
Read an article today where Wenger stated that Arsenal have let Ramsey have the upper hand in the contract negotiations, which was amusing coming from him, as during his time at the club many players were allowed to get into a similar position. I do not believe that we should hand Ramsey a 4 year deal at £250,000 per week, costing a total of £52m, for a player that has never convinced and doesn't appear to have the defensive side to his game that is required under Emery. We can easily replace him for £20m, plus wages of say £150,000 pw max. It would be great if we can either sell or part exchange him during the January window.

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14 Oct 2018 15:50:04
Ive got to say, unless i'm missing something, we have decided not to fill his pockets, not the other way round. I don't see how ramsey has the upper hand on arsenal. I've thought these last few years wenger has spoken with fork toungue anyway, i don't think he talks sense anymore.

14 Oct 2018 16:18:38
I'm surprised someone gave Arsene the platform to embarras himself on when it comes to talking about players contracts, those who can do and those who didn't tend to have selective memory.
Ramsey will leave either in January or next summer, I'd prefer January but we may have to wait until next summer, as long as he ain't with us next season I'm happy.

14 Oct 2018 16:21:33
I wonder if united are up for doing any silly swaps again 😂.

14 Oct 2018 16:27:50
Ramsey is in a strong position as he can benefit from any clubs coming in for him not having to pay a transfer fee. This should be reflected in a higher salary and/ or a signing on fee.
I am pleased that after agreeing to pay Ozil an absurd £350,000 a week, we have pulled out of paying Ramsey a reported £250,000 a week. Even in today's inflated market, neither player is worth these absurdly high wages. It also sends a message to other players at the club that there is a limit before we let them go. The new regime have already acted quickly and protected our assets signing deals with players such as; Xhaka, Elneny, Holding, etc.
Of course Ramsey looks gutted as he thought he had agreed a 4 year deal on wages of £250,000 per week. Presumably he and his family are settled in the area, so moving out of the area isn't ideal.

{Ed002's Note - That was not the figure that was agreed with Ramsey.}

14 Oct 2018 16:54:12
What figure was agreed Ed?

{Ed002's Note - It doesn't matter but it was a lot less than what is being quoted.}

14 Oct 2018 17:28:20
When the time comes for him to go I'd be surprised if his new club pay more than 150k a week in wages even though he's on a free.
His availability rate is 50% at best due to his injury record and he turns up in 1/ 5 games with a decent performance when he is available.
I don't think he's in as strong position as he and Arsene might think. Just look at Jack's options despite being available for free, there was a lot of paper talk about who wanted Jack but none of it was real and in the end he had to reinvent himself as a life long Hammers fan to get a club.

14 Oct 2018 18:09:55
Hi Ed002, that was a figure I read, what was the figure?

{Ed002's Note - You should ignore figures you read in the press as it is wrong.}

14 Oct 2018 21:32:39
The papers are so unreliable it makes little sense to take anything they say seriously this time last season Sanchez was a city player in waiting and United weren't even on the radar while not was Mesut who was United bound and Jack going Milan.

14 Oct 2018 23:02:08
For a bunch that wanted the man out, almost every post seems to drag him back in again. It's a shame to see you lot being so dismissive and flippant towards a man that gave over two decades to a club you claim to love. Shocking really.

14 Oct 2018 23:40:15
Few posts actually mention Arsene now days Sharpie mate which is in some ways a shame after so long at the club, but I try my best to respect and remember the brilliance of the first decade as well as accept the reality of the last decade of Arsenes time as our manager when he does get a mention.
Some bare a grudge against Arsene but not me personally I wanted him gone 5 years ago but still respect what he did in that first decade most and let the bad times go.
On the whole Arsene was the best thing that ever happened to us but phew I'm relieved it's over.

15 Oct 2018 00:19:23
In the interview Arsene actually says that was his job to arrange the contracts while he was manager, ironically that is one of the reasons we're in the state we are, his comfy club ruined the squad and took away the aggressive mentality we had.

15 Oct 2018 07:05:51
I supported Wenger whilst he was at the club, apart from the occasional gripe about him on this site. Now he has left, he was great during the first decade, the second decade was painful and all that saved him were the 3 FA Cup wins.
I actually prefer not to hear from him, and wish he would fade into obscurity, as I find him and his comments irritating.
The latest nonsense about Ramsey, that the player has all the power as his contract runs down. Well, that was all down to Wenger and Gazidis. I am pleased to see the back of the pair that oversaw the decline during the last decade. Emery and Co are a breath of fresh air. After a short period at the club, the players are now fitter, stronger, more motivated, happier and determined. The fans are back on board, enjoying the transition under Emery.

15 Oct 2018 08:57:48
RG61, I wholeheartedly stand behind fans that give the current regime their full support. In fact, I think it would be very fickle of fans if they didn't.

My point is, if all it took is someones opinion to irritate you and make you start slating them, I'd be doing it to you about 3 to 4 times a day.

Whatever you think of Arsene, the man shed blood, sweat and tears for our club and deserves more than the annoying digs you sling his way.

15 Oct 2018 09:05:47
It's always sad when an ex manager that struggled themselves trys to tell others where they went or are going wrong.
Arsene should stick to talking about players and international matches where he has no ghosts of his own that peole will automatically come back at him with and make him look silly.

15 Oct 2018 13:08:37
Agree gunner, the worst thing he can do is talk about arsenal things tha he himself failed miserably at. Ramsey is the last of the "british core" he paid a fortune to, when signing them to take the club forward. Not the best thing he has on his CV and not very constructive either.

15 Oct 2018 18:50:58
Agree Steve, I like Arsene as a person very very much and as far as I'm concerned the past is the past, as long as Arsene let's it be of course.
If Boris Johnson questioned someone else's principles or Jose Mourinho questioned someone else publicly criticising their players then people would quite rightly jump on thier own records on those subjects.
There are loads of subjects Arsene could talk about and hold his own quite admirably but contracts defence and others he should stay well clear of or expect some flack from people who just won't play " let's all pretend "

15 Oct 2018 19:11:34
Agree gunner but like maureen and boris, he is always right and everyone else is wrong. Lol.

15 Oct 2018 21:30:33
I'm not making excuses for Arsene but I do think he's easy meat for journalists as although he's a highly intelligent man he does so often lack common sense and can quite easily be lead into to saying something that makes him look silly.
I've never met him but I genuinely believe he's a good man at heart from everything I've ever read or heard about him from those who have met him, Ed001 speaks very highly of him from when he's met him.



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