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01 Aug 2018 07:22:03
Lots of noise surrounding Ramsey's situation at the club, but little news of Welbeck.
I would like him to stay, as we could have great attacking options, imagine a front three of Welbeck, Lacazette and Aubameyang.
In addition we need 8 'homegrown' overage players to make up the squad.
News today that Emery still wants Nzonzi, but has to sell in order to raise the necessary funds to sign him. Assuming Ramsey won't sign, perhaps we could sell him and sign Nzonzi with the proceeds.

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01 Aug 2018 10:27:12
I rather sell Wellbeck and promote youngster Neketiah to 1st team tbh, which will free up wages for a proper winger singing also. don't get me wrong Wellbeck is good pro and you can't fault his workrate and attitude but for me he not a reliable enough finisher to be good enough backup to PEA/ Lacazette. Yeh good point about the homgrown quota mind.

01 Aug 2018 11:20:14
Basically you can name 17 non home grown players in your 25 man squad.
Belerin is home grown so that gives us a full 18 of non brits we can filed in our match day squad.
Add Chambers Holding Iwobi Maitland Niles Nelson Eddy plus the young Greek CB because of his age.
I wouldn't get to hung up on home grown quota because it isn't as big a deal as it sounds and certainly not worth giving in to excessive wages because of.

01 Aug 2018 11:29:03
does the greek kid count? doesn't he have to of been with an english or welsh side for 3 years?

01 Aug 2018 11:35:20
Is he old enough to be counted as non home grown yet? I'm not 100% sure but I think only over 23s count.

{Ed002's Note - Over 21 so it is of no releavance. Try counting the other way. Just count the non HG over 21 and if it is 17 or less there is not an issue.

01 Aug 2018 11:57:26
Very good point Ed002 thank you.
And by my reckoning we are under 17 non home grown players so like you say it's not an issue for us.

01 Aug 2018 15:41:15
oh yes sorry g62 of course he's too young to count.

01 Aug 2018 17:42:32
It's not easy to keep track of who is or isn't home grown or which player count and don't count Eden mate, but I think we are fine of any problems with or without Danny and Aaron on that score.
I like the idea behind the home grown rule but in practice I'm not sure it's worked out like everyone had hoped it would and think it needs looking at again personally.

01 Aug 2018 17:54:01
By my reckoning our over-21 squadlist looks like this at the moment (*indicates homegrown) :

1. 26 Emiliano Martinez*
2. 2 Hector Bellerin*
3. 16 Rob Holding*
4. 21 Calum Chambers*
5. 8 Aaron Ramsey*
6. 17 Alex Iwobi*
7. 23 Danny Welbeck*
8. 25 Carl Jenkinson*
9. 19 Bernd Leno
10. 1 Petr Cech
11. 5 Sokratis Papastathopoulos
12. 6 Laurent Koscielny
13. 12 Stephan Lichtsteiner
14. 18 Nacho Monreal
15. 20 Shkodran Mustafi
16. 31 Sead Kolasinac
17. 4 Mohamed Elneny
18. 7 Henrikh Mkhitaryan
19. 10 Mesut Ozil
20. 34 Granit Xhaka
21. 9 Alexandre Lacazette
22. 14 Pierre-Emerick Aubameyang
23. 11 Lucas Torreira
24. 13 David Ospina
25. 28 Lucas Perez

If we sell Welbeck tomorrow, we can only replace him with a homegrown player, same with Ramsey. Given Jenkinson is surplus to requirements that also imay leave a gap if he leaves. Although I would expect Ospina and Perez to move on which frees up two places for non-homegrown players.

NB currently no room for Campbell.

01 Aug 2018 19:28:08
Ospina and Perez will leave too DH mate.

01 Aug 2018 19:44:55
That was supposed to read (I'm pretty sure ) Ospina and Perez will leve too DH :-)

01 Aug 2018 19:49:21
yeh g62 i imagine a large part of it was to try and promote english and welsh players, but the whole 3 years with a club no matter the nationality and you count makes that pretty redundant.



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