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25 Mar 2018 07:53:40
Reports that the club are in talks with Thomas Tuchel. I can't say he would be my first choice, but I can't say I know too much about him. Although a change is clearly necessary, not that Wenger has done particularly badly with 3 trophies over the last 4 seasons, which is more than the likes of Klopp and Pochettino.
Reports that we are after Jan are interesting. The odd one is that we seem open to selling Bellerin and replacing him with Darmian. I am not a huge fan of Bellerin as he lacks the defensive qualities needed to play at RB or RWB. CB-wise there is still a possibility of signing Evans at the end of the season and at £3m IThe would prove good value.
I fail to understand why we are being so difficult with Wilshere, who clearly wants to stay and is one of our best players.

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25 Mar 2018 08:44:50
Just wondering who is reporting this story about Tuchel? Usual star metro etc or has champagne Charlie been eating cheese before bed again :-) take absolutely no notice of the press, on Thursday everyone kept telling me we were set for a month of freezing temperatures starting this week, my immediate response was to ask " is it the express or the daily mail saying it "? Turns out it's the express who started it but the Met office are predicting extremely mild weather for the time of year.
Fake news is everywhere now so in my experience if it's a football and neither this page or the bbc are saying anything chances are it ain't true.
On Jack are we so well off for good players we can be strong on this? Obviously the answer is no and although because of Jack's injury record it's a gamble but to some degree Jack has the upper hand in negotiations as we are so short on quality.

{Ed001's Note - it is the usual - Bild which is the German equivalent.}

25 Mar 2018 10:06:50
Fake news is everywhere so it’s not true unless the bbc say so 😂 you do make me chuckle g62.

25 Mar 2018 10:06:55
I understand people get desperate for news but to keep giving these fake news pedlars hits only encourages them to invent more rubbish to mislead us with.
Just don't use the usual suspects who are known for their lies and they will change their ways.
Starve the malicious dishonest sources and feed the ones that keep it honest to the best of thier ability.
Reward the good honest journalists with your time and simply ignore the usual predictably dishonest ones.

25 Mar 2018 10:52:43
I meant on football stories Sanago but good point mate :-)
I used to read all the stories but BenzHiguain gate cured me :-)
The only two places that didn't run those stories were this site and the good old beeb :-)
David Orms something or other on BBC main page seems to stay away from hit seeking gossip and usually only report on what is actually happening while the Eds on here only tell us what they actually know or give their opinion which they don't try and pass off as fact but clearly state they have no idea when they don't.
Personally I prefer no news to fake news.

25 Mar 2018 11:19:16
The bbc pedals plenty of fake football story’s and usually it is ripped from sources like the sun and mail. Don’t kid yourself into thinking that the bbc is any different from the other sources you mention. When signings are done and dusted then it’s easy to report facts as do all other media.

25 Mar 2018 12:26:06
The bbc gossip colum is just a round up the daily papers mate they are not saying it's fact just what others are saying. On the bbc report something on their main page and actually claim it to be happening it's 9/ 10 a real possibility where clubs and players are actively talking. The beeb never once said Benzema or Higuain were happening and they certainly didn't say either was having a medical with us :-) check it out between now and next season, sly and the papers v bbc and this page. There won't be as many stories but what you get will almost certainly be true regarding football.

25 Mar 2018 13:22:38
If tuchel to arsenal is true, it can be good news. I think i am the only one on this forum who was vouching for tuchel. He is a really good coach, technically the best available in my humble opinion. If bayern were after him, why wouldn't he be good enough for Arsenal? or are we suddenly bigger than bayern?

He uses positional play and is a tactics freak. Everyone on this forum has been screaming for Allegri and obviously allegri is a winner, he would massively improve Arsenal but he is not a revolutionary coach, Tuchel is. Sarri would be a better option than allegri in my opinion but he is 59! so can't be a long term option so that leaves us with allegri and tuchel and i'll personally pick tuchel. Let us not forget his BVB team never lost at home during his two years in charge and his dortumund team despite scoring bigger points than klopp's, lost out to bayern under guardiola. Any other season he would have the league. The following season he lost all his good players. Gundogan, hummels and mkhiyaryan. Any team would be hurt by that. So when we say tuchel hasn't won the league, you have to put it in context.

25 Mar 2018 17:06:14
Is there a manager we haven't been linked with. I doubt the tuchel one is any truer than the 1000 others because he fell out with everyone under the sun at dortmund and mislinat, i understand was one of those.

25 Mar 2018 19:22:20
Steve apparently the rumuour is from kicker who everyone on reddit says is reliable but wenger did an interview with Bein sports where he complained about ageism in coaching and he doesn't look like someone who wants to go so if arsenal wants a new coach the board would have to sack him which would be a shame really.

25 Mar 2018 20:10:37
PG the board will have to remove wenger, he won't go on his own, he is too up his own jacksy.

25 Mar 2018 20:12:24
PG he says he always wants what is best for the club. Not quite true arsene, you look after no1 and that's it.

25 Mar 2018 20:14:56
Punani I don't get all this obsession with a manager having to have won something to be a success in their career so far.
Alex Mcglish Roberto Matinez Roberto De Matteo are they really more credible because of a cup win than Poch and what he did at Southampton and has done so far at Spurs or what Sean Dyche has done with Burnley.
If every manager only got a chance on what they had previously won how could any manager anywhere of a non fashionable club ever get a chance to prove themselves at a higher level.
It's catch 22 if you are at a smaller club, there is only so much you can do to prove yourself at a higher level unless someone actually gives you a chance based on looking at the bigger picture of your managerial career apposed to the black and white text book thinking.
How ever did Arsene Jose and others ever get a chance in management in the first place with their less than illustrious playing careers?

25 Mar 2018 21:24:00
I couldn't have put it better gunner62.Imagine if barcelona never gave a chance to guardiola. You can't judge a coach based on what he has won. You always have to put it in perspective. For example you can't say sarri isn't a good coach because he has never anything because he is up against the financial muscle of juventus.

In germany most teams are run by guys who really know football. Klopp, tuchel and now domenico tedesco have all being given a chance by the same guy only because they impressed in interviews and things they did with youth teams. Tedesco only coached in bundlesiga 2 for only 11 matches and he was given the schalke job after that and it seems they made a good decision because they are second in the table now. You cannot judge a coach based on experience and trophies because they are many factors that may make a coach not to win a cup.

25 Mar 2018 21:25:47
Steve wenger's level of narcissism astonishes me.

25 Mar 2018 21:49:20
The first thing we need from our next manager is to make us competitive in every game we play win lose or draw the opposition need to know they've had to work hard for 90 minutes to beat us.

Secondly we need to get back in contention for top 4
Thirdly achieve top 4 again
Fourthly challenge for titles again
And last but not least win titles again.

Every journey starts with the first step so let's get on with it.



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