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14 Mar 2018 19:16:34
Are you boys having a Klopp love-in?

I like the guy, his enthusiasm is second to none and he is a very good manager, but apart from getting Liverpool into top 4 (That, in itself, is a decent achievement) , what has he won in nearly 3 years at Liverpool? (Assuming they don't win anything this year) .

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14 Mar 2018 19:44:32
Where were Liverpool when he took over Dags?
What shape were the squad in when he got there mate?
How much has he spent?
How much money has he brought in from sales?
2 full seasons 2 champions league qualifications only Pep will equal that as Poch and Jose's didn't and Conti looks unlikely too.
2 full seasons in comparison to Arsene?
We've dropped from missing out on champions league participation to not even being in contention for champions league qualification with 10 games still remaining
Liverpool have gone from edging into 4th last season to looking quite comfortably for top 4 this time round.
What's Klopp won?
Ok he didn't trouble Chelsea last season but who did
OK he isn't troubling City this season ( despite being the only team to beat City this season in the league) but who is troubling City this season.
Will anyone trouble City next season? Most people seem to think if anyone will it will be Liverpool
Oh and one last thing on Arsene v Jurgen
Arsene failed for 8 seasons running to get us past the last 16 in the champions league but Jurgen seems to have picked that trick up very quickly too ;-)

14 Mar 2018 20:09:40
G62,
I agree, but until he puts a trophy in the cabinet, the jury will be out.

The same could be said about Samourinho.
When he took over at Man Utd, despite jus winning FA Cup under LVG, they were pants.

Samourinho has won EL and League Cup and has got them from finishing 5th/ 6th, to probably finishing 2nd this season, he pretty much gets them 20 more points per season than previous managers.

But, he is still lambasted (Rightly so, as Utd play boring pedestrianised football) .

So, why is Klopp regarded as the best thing since sliced bread and Samourinho slagged off, despite the latter being more successful? (Trophy wise) .

Like I said, I think Klopp is great, but I will save my "I wish he was Arsenal's Manager" comments until he wins something.

(I'm not saying you made those comments btw) 😁.

14 Mar 2018 20:18:39
Who put more trophies in the cabinet over the past 4 years?

14 Mar 2018 20:27:40
Mr Wenger.

14 Mar 2018 20:31:49
Dags if Liverpool draw Sutton and Lincoln in next seasons FA cup and go on to win it, would that make Jurgen more credible :-)
If so let's bypass Jurgen and get Bobby in from Belgium because he won the cup with Wigan ;-)

SY and the decade Arsene went without winning anything before that?
Don't tell another Dallas Booby Ewing type dream that doesn't count:-)

14 Mar 2018 20:39:32
Roberto Di Matteo?
He's won the champions league in only one attept to :-)

14 Mar 2018 20:50:15
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Is that you on the line 62.

14 Mar 2018 20:57:48
G62,
If Klopp won the FA Cup, who they beat en route would be forgotten.

We beat Hull, Villa and Chelsea in FA Cup finals, but I'm struggling to tell you who else we beat en route in those victories, apart from Spurs, Liverpool, Everton and Man City.

It's about winning a trophy and making history, for the manager (Klopp) and his team (Liverpool) .

Like I said, I rate Klopp. I also rate Pochettino, but until they win trophies, they will not, in my opinion, be regarded in the same breath as Wenger ( I know Klopp won 2 Bundesliga titles and German Cup, but I'm talking English Prem League) .

14 Mar 2018 21:08:56
In order Dags, who would you want manager over the next three seasons. Wenger, klopp, poch, samourinio or henry.

14 Mar 2018 21:32:30
Steve,
If I had to choose.

A) Samourinho. I don't like the bloke, or his style, but I think he will spend and address our shortcomings. I can put up with him for 3 seasons.

B) Klopp. He will spend money and play attacking football. But, will he win anything?

C) stick with Wenger. But release the purse strings.

D) Poch. But until he wins, I have doubts about him. Will he spend to strenghten our squad?
Many times he has said, "I'm happy with my squad", but everyone knows this Spurs team are not good enough to win the league and Poch hasn't addressed this problem in 3 seasons.

E) Henry. Great player, but sentiment to an old player doesn't mean he will win anything.
Arsenal is too big a team for him to cut his teeth on.

Just my opinion mate, but bloody great question.

14 Mar 2018 21:41:42
Not trying to catch you out, it was just a thought. For other teams, its trophies for some who have trophies, its something else. I think klopp and poch would win trophies at arsenal, more likely than their present clubs. I would have took sam last year, i just think he's like wenger now, being left behind. Where would spuds or pool be with him? .

14 Mar 2018 21:47:23
Dags winning the fa cup, EL cup, doesn't make you a great team. We can prove that point. Winning the league is the pointer of the best team.

14 Mar 2018 21:53:47
Not Di Matteo then Dags? Champions league winners you know?
Ranieri? Premier league champion
Mancini? Pelgrini? Both premier champions or what about Lvg and his family cup win?
Can Klopp make Liverpool champions of England? I anyone can then yes I think he can and if he could with Liverpool then he could with have with Arsenal, but he is at Liverpool and the jobs under way while we are still not out of the blocks.

14 Mar 2018 21:55:10
Not Klopp or Jose or Henry

Vieira please or Ancelotti or Allegri- my top 3

Would like to see Wenger with unlimited funds but I think we are too far gone now and too risky as we haven’t learned with our defending. Wenger relies on intelligent players who use initiative or follow leaders on pitch. Not seen that since Invincibles or team with GG’s back 4. Something’s not right and should have addressed.

14 Mar 2018 22:31:38
Gents,
Like SY4, Allegri would be my first choice.







 

 

 
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