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28 Feb 2018 11:43:09
I must admit that I admire Wenger. We have just witnessed a pathetic performance in a cup final, with the weakest squad we have had for quite a time and yet Wenger responds by saying that we were a bit apprehensive and have to play with more freedom.
How about we need a new manager who will purchase a new keeper, 2 new DM's, a couple of CB's and a RB. We need a manager who will bring shape, tactics and passion back to the team.
My first choice would be Simeone.

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28 Feb 2018 12:12:32
Arsene repeated what he has already said 100s if not 1000s of times before, he has always honoured his contract.
He has once again made it quite plain he will not be quiting his job as Arsenal manager.
It's up to the board and the fans how they feel but Arsene has made his position quite clear yet again, he is he has another 15 months to run on his current contract and has every intention of for filling it.

28 Feb 2018 12:39:50
Arsene runs the club from top to bottom, not the board (Wenger is a cash cow, why would they sack him? ) , or the fans.

Sad fact, he will go when he wants to go.

28 Feb 2018 13:08:52
I don't think it's going to happen Dags but if Arsene lost a significant chunk of the 50% of fans who support him regardless of results performance or anything else then he couldn't continue.
A lot of fans surprisingly many younger fans in particular think Arsene deserves to stay as long as he wants because of past achievements and as long as 50% or close to that % keep feeling that way Arsene will be fine to carry on as per usual.

28 Feb 2018 14:18:22
G62,
Arsenal/ Arsene are both stubborn.

If we have a mass "No show" in terms of season tickets for next season, how many of the 60,000 do you think would participate?
10% (6000) , 15% (9000) , maybe even 20%, that's 12,000 people not renewing season tickets, and with a 20,0000 waiting list for people wanting season tickets, Arsenal Football Club would not even feel the pinch mate.

Our matchday revenue is about £130m per season, about 29% of our incoming monies.

Trust me, the fans need Arsenal Football Club more than Arsenal Football Club needs the fans.

28 Feb 2018 14:57:01
Where does the other 70% of tbe money come from Dags?
TV? Fan dependent
Sponsorship? Fan dependent, no interest no sponsorship, it's why league one teams with 1 or 2 thousands fans get very little money from sponsorship while Utd Real Barcelona get loads.
Merchandise? Fan dependent.
No fans no Arsenal no club to manage.
Everything in any business is customer dependent mate
Tesco and Sainsbury are cutting prices in an attempt to win back customers from Aldi and Lidl before its to late because without customers supermarkets like TV football and any other business is finished.
The public are and have always been king makers and ultimately will always be.

28 Feb 2018 15:04:58
A business only survives by keeping its customers happy.

28 Feb 2018 15:05:17
Dags I’m 65,346th on the list for a season ticket mate and that’s after a few years of being on it.

28 Feb 2018 15:23:02
Plus its not all about fans money. Sponsors are keen a club is competative and a happy ship, that is where the club will really suffer.

28 Feb 2018 15:34:04
Stoner,
With the mass exodus, you should drop to 65,300 😁.

28 Feb 2018 15:49:25
Ultimately no one can rule without public consent or public compliance.
Arsene only continues through loyalty not because anything like 50% of fans think him capable anymore but because 50% of fans continue to feel indeted to him for the past.
10 years ago that figure was in the high 90s but slowly over the last decade has slipped to around 50% mark where it's been for around 3 or 4 years.
Every demonstration that has been held against Arsene so far has fallen flat on its face and more often than not been equaled if not out numbered by a counter demonstration by those who still support him.
A united fan base ultimately calks the tune while a devied fan base meams Arsene and Stan carry on for as long as they wish.

28 Feb 2018 15:49:54
See Dags, not everything is doom and gloom. 😂.

28 Feb 2018 15:58:14
Wenger is deluded and arrogant. How dare he say he is amazed at speculation about his future? I am shocked but that kind of arrogance gets on my nerves. Who would be speculating about his future if he was doing well? Wenger's issue is that he has under-performed for so long that he is one game away from fan protests. I was supportive of wenger until around 2011,that is 5 years without a trophy. that is a lot of years in the current climate. Most managers would be sacked if they don't do well for two seasons.

He then says he then turned down the whole world to stay with us. Why does he keep reminding us? That was probably 8 years ago. I don't think any big team would want him now. Wenger is like a girlfriend you are tired of and one you want to cut off but who says you should stay with her because she didn't **** your mate who is more handsome than you do eight years ago!

28 Feb 2018 16:03:36
Stoner in 10 years time you will have a seat of your own and be able to see Arsene wrestling with his coat anytime you wish :-)

{Ed001's Note - in ten year's time that will be all there is, Arsene in the centre circle while Slybet run odds on how many attempts it will take him to zip up his coat.}

28 Feb 2018 16:19:15
Why did Arsene turn down the whole world?
Loyalty? Most certainly that was a factor but where else could he go and
Not be accountable
Not have to deliver to be totally secure in his job
Not have to prove himself to anyone.

It's not all been one way and totally unselfish as to why Arsene stayed put.

{Ed001's Note - if they had only offered him a coat with buttons or velcro fastening they would have got him.....}

28 Feb 2018 16:41:20
Your spot on Ed001 mate, in 10 years time the Peterborough Preston and Port Vale fans will all be making there way to Emirates on a yearly basis to see Arsene, his coat and of course Stoner tying to work out how and why he finally ended up with that ticket and exactly how he was going to find someone to take it off him again ;-)

{Ed001's Note - the way it is going at the Emirates, the football is incidental to the 'match day experience' there now, with all the restaurants etc anyway. I am not sure anyone will be looking up from their meals to notice that there is no game on.}

28 Feb 2018 17:21:56
G62,
I totally agree, but do you think sponsors, shirt advertisers and TV companies would not still see Arsenal Football Club as a massive global brand, even without the fans?

The fans, sadly, are not as "Powerful" as they were 20 years ago.

We are expendable mate.

A mass exodus of Arsenal fans not renewing season tickets will be replaced by a mass influx of new Arsenal supporters gagging for a season ticket.

As a Driving Instructor, who has approximately 45 pupils on his books every week, do you think I would feel the pinch if I pissed off 20% of them and they went elsewhere?
Nope, not in the slightest. I constantly have at least 5/6 people on standby waiting to start.

They are easily replaced.
(I'm not saying I would do that. Have never lost a pupil in 15 years lol) .

28 Feb 2018 17:27:40
I wonder where that will leave the club once the corporate interest has shifted onto to a new venture and the long suffering everyday fans have long since diminished in numbers that Emirates becomes far to large for Arsenals needs and to costly to maintain while it's location means the land it stands on is wortb more than the club itself and a down grade is the only way forward.

28 Feb 2018 18:46:32
Dags mate there is a reason you've never lost a customer mate, i'd guess that reason is you have reputation of wanting of being not only good at what you do but also for treating your customers with respect and caring about how they view what you do mate.

If you stopped being you and doing things that have earned you a good reputation your right you might lose a few but probably not enough customers to make a huge difference initially but over a prolonged period of treating customers badly your reputation would diminish slowly but surely until only a few remained and not enough to sustain a business.

10 years ago Tesco were unrivalled kings of supermarkets but they became arrogant and felt they were number ones by right, I'm not sure they feel the same today because although they are still number one in the UK they are a long long way from being able to think they still will be in 5 to 10 years time.
Loyalty only lasts for so long if it isn't topped up by letting your customers know how much you value them.

Trust me mate once the Emirates becomes noticeable less and less full less and less often sponsors advertisers and investors won't be slow on the uptake and will already have identified more attractive options to get a return from their sponsorship money etc.

28 Feb 2018 19:57:48
Good post G62 👍👍.

28 Feb 2018 21:43:54
Cheers Dags mate, none of us know the future we all just call it as we see really see it, which of us so right wrong or what ever only time will tell.







 

 

 
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