06 Nov 2017 08:18:20
Well 62, I did say id pop back come rain or shine.
Your team needs a major overhaul. probably about half a billion required, Sanchez and Ozil off. Cech finished and then there's your defence.
ps Ramseys not good enough either.
back to 4 points.
#finished.
06 Nov 2017 09:54:43
You did indeed Nes and indeed you have popped back in rain for us and shine for you :-)
Your not wrong in your assessments but the truth is nobody is that upset by days like yesterday anymore and should we beat you in the next game nobody will get too carried away by that either, yes we would enjoy the day but equally know the next underwhelming performance wasn't far away.
Arsenal are a club in limbo and people are simply waiting for change to happen before anyone can get to excited or deflated by results either way.
I think almost everyone Arsenal fans as well football fans in general accept than nothing is going to change under Arsene so it's just a waiting game until either Arsene the board or the fans decide enough is enough.
This could be 2 years away or 10 years in truth no one knows about the future because it hasn't happened yet, my guess is intimately it will lots of empty seats on a regular basis that will finally be the deciding factor because neither the manager or owner seem to unhappy with life at Arsenal in general, on the day Arsene is disapointed of course but he soon gets over it and looks towards the next game simply because he's pretty happy in his job.
06 Nov 2017 11:59:14
Great reply G62.
Sadly, very true.
06 Nov 2017 13:11:34
North they are definitely not finished, they still have a very good squad and all they need is a young fresh manager as Wenger is starting to look outdated and is struggling to keep up with the younger managers in the league.
06 Nov 2017 14:05:19
Spot on Raver I agree 100%, it's ridiculous to declare Arsenal finished! Arsenal under Arsene may well be finished as a competitive club but Arsenal football club will come again as will clubs like Leeds Liverpool and Everton.
Who knows what the future holds for any club but the past is as good as guide as anyone can realistically use and the term sleeping giant a applies To Arsenal Leeds Newcastle Everton and I might add Spurs to some extent who haven't won a title for a couple of generations but who certainly look the most likely to wake up of all the big clubs who could realistically be kings.
All the clubs mentioned above have been more than a decade without a title and most haven't even seriously challenged for it during the last decade either but all are equally only the right manager and owner combination away from doing so once again.
06 Nov 2017 15:17:33
Good post 62,
Banter aside, its quite sad what is happening to you lot. Especially given that your club was ran the right way for such a long time. not mega spending like the City, Chelsea, Uniteds of the world.
Wenger should have gone, and the rebuild should already have begun.
06 Nov 2017 15:41:14
I agree Nes mate we should have acted as while back but hey ho no one can rewind the hands of time as much as we would all like to at times.
It is sad to see the whole thing unfold very publicly into more and more of baffling nonsense and watch us simply carry on like this for no apparent footballing reason, sad for the fans sad for the club and every bit as sad to watch the once brilliant Arsene continue to lose his credibility little by little each week month and season.
The fact is Arsene can't find it in himself to call it a day and no one has either the heart or the inclination to do it for him.
06 Nov 2017 15:47:00
True post north, when Arsenal had the invincibles I took my hat off to them as they done it in style and didn't spend billions like Chelsea or man city to win the league. I know Chelsea have had massive success the last 10 years but I still find it hard to give them the credit for it. Take roman away and they would be a top 6 club at best.
06 Nov 2017 21:50:33
My first thumbs up for Raver. I guess I like this guy after all. maybe I am a just a bit jealous right now. great posts Raver and NE.
06 Nov 2017 22:45:28
Slovak mate I don't think there is any harm in us admiring what Spurs are doing, it's not so much being jellous as wanting to emulate and exceed what Poch is doing there.
07 Nov 2017 01:53:28
Raver take Roman away and Chelsea are bankrupt.
that's the sad part 62, Wenger has done amazing for you lot and he will remembered for staying too long.
Fergie knew when his time was up due to the weaknesses in the United team. how he won he league with that team, for me was his best title.
07 Nov 2017 01:54:18
hindsight’s a wonderful thing though, imagine Wenger going and replacing him with someone like United did, David Moyes. The truth is how many top managers are available and willing to go to Arsenal right now (not bashing arsenal by the way just a genuine question)
07 Nov 2017 08:08:50
It's a good point JBLP, and what manager worth his salt would accept Arsene moving upstairs and still having an input?
Arsene no longer being manager might only be the begining of bringing about change and if could take a good few years after gives up the top job to see real change if he simply moves to a different position within the club and still pulls many of the string's which I suspect might be the plan long term.