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09 Jul 2017 11:02:08
If we get 80million for sanchez i would be happy. If he gets 400k a week i won't be.
He is holding this club to ransom. No player no matter how good is not worth the trouble.

This will cause others to ask for more money. It will cause dissension in the ranks, ruin the feel good factor. Lacazette is a good buy. I wouldn't say he is in sanchez territory yet but he has one factor that sanchez has not. He wants to play for arsenal.

That desire is the difference for me. I would take that desire everyday over a prima donna throwing his dummy out of his pram. Remember fabregas van persie. They were our best players but didn't want to play for us.

My advice is if sanchez doesn't want to play for arsenal, get the max funds selling him and get quality players that want to play for us.

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09 Jul 2017 11:25:42
How is he holding us to ransom. We bought him, gave him a contract that we thought he deserved. Why isn't ozil holding us to ransom, when he is quietly doibg the same. They both have a responsibility to honour their contracts after that, its up to both parties as to what happens. Because we never managed to get them to sign their cobtracts to extend. How is that holding us to ransom. Wenger ran his contract down, did he hold us to ransom. Oh wait. Lol.

09 Jul 2017 12:11:30
I totally agree with steve. r - Wenger ran down his contract and then demanded over twice his current wage to stay on. How is that any different to what Sanchez is doing? Oh wait.

09 Jul 2017 11:45:34
Tell me because i'm missing something. If as you put it sanchez doesn't want to play for us, why would a player of similar standard or ambition want too. Surely we are looking at the wrong fault here. We used to keep our best players and win leagues, then we started to sell them and didnt. Who or what is at fault here.

09 Jul 2017 12:56:37
Season hasn't started and its wengers fault (yawn)

09 Jul 2017 12:57:35
Spot on STEVE - Henry, Paddy, Freddie, Robbie, DB10 signed because we were winning trophies including the league.
If you aren't doing that then top players run contracts down so leave on a free and get crazy wages as a reward.

09 Jul 2017 15:04:07
Sanchez has a year left on his contract. So you are telling me you are willing to let him go for free and lose millions. i'm glad you don't do the arsenal accounts! Maybe you should do Rangers accounts!
Ozil has not made much noise i don't think he will leave. He has praised lacazette and he is heading to australia on tour. He will get a pay rise but nothing like sanchez.
The difference between wenger and sanchez is that wenger honours his contract. We won't lose 80million if he goes. lol
Sanchez is a quality player no doubt but he will cause more trouble for arsenal in the long term. Believe me i want him to stay but not at the expense of the clubs long term future. He knows he is the best player at club that is why he and his agent are holding us to ransom with crazy wage demands.
Me personally i wanted wenger to go last year. He made bad decisions and has let star players like ozil sanchez ox contracts run down to their last year. But i think he has smelt the coffee and is willing to spend and show ambition. Players like lacazette are willing to come here this club has ambition its the start of a new season don't be so pessimistic. Arsenal will still be here after sanchez and co.

09 Jul 2017 15:12:41
How do you know what other players think Steve That might not be the case, it's money at the end of the day if someone offered me triple my wages for doing a job I would hate to do I'd take it for more money, money talks fella.

09 Jul 2017 15:56:40
Every single player and manager for that matter has a contract for a term. When you sign a player or a manager you sign him to do a job for a term. If all goes well that player stays and signs another contract and so does a manager. If not that player and it applies to all players leave and go elsewhere, a manager gets sacked with a big pay off. A football players contract is not the same as ours and everyone knows that when they sign. Arsenal football club signed sanchez on a four year deal, why not longer and why not shorter. I don't agree about ozil, I think he is playing the same game. he's very quiet and is not jumping at signing his contract.

09 Jul 2017 16:29:56
Ozil was always professional. His just seems like a haggle for hire wages. He never threw his gloves at the pitch or shouted at his teammates or laughed at his teammates when from the bench.
Sanchez wants out, I don't know why Arsenal fans are still attached to the guy when he clearly doesn't want to be a gooner.
These are the same rose coloured glasses used on Wilshere who clearly won't ever cut it.

09 Jul 2017 17:04:34
I don't care if he stays or goes to be honest, he wants more money give it to him if he just wants out show him the door but don't sell cheap, as long as we buy a replacement and not slag him off b4 he's played a game, and people slating Wenger about Sanchezs contract just hate Wenger it's the club not Wenger like someone pointed out today the season hasn't started yet and it's already wengers fault! Get bhind the team and players and get over it.

09 Jul 2017 17:22:17
254 its called passion and that's not a bad thing, ozil doesn't show it. A lot of top sports people are passionate to an extreme, it makes them what they are. He goes out and performs, he can spit his dummy out and stamp his feet all he wants as long as he performs like he does. I don't want an underperforming angel. John mac enroe has just sprung to mind, he did it because he hated losing. Give me people like that any day of the week.

09 Jul 2017 17:28:15
254 what is ozil waiting for then. He is 5 months away from being able to talk to other clubs, why. Does he want to wait because he wants to be the highest earner, what's stopping him, not much as far as I can see. Its all cutting a bit fine. I think he's like the quiet assassin, he know what he is doing but we dont.

09 Jul 2017 17:29:52
Is a top player with top options more or less likely to choose Chelsea or Arsenal if they wanted to come to England?
Chelsea 99/ 100 and it's those 1 in 100 players we need to worry about not the other 99.
We all know our reputation isn't all it was and we all know we are not the draw for players we once were and we all know that very very few people outside some Arsenal fans will consider us realistic title contenders for next season so let's look at who we can get and what we can achieve.
Top 4 is possible even though it will be very difficult and the Europa league is possible too and how long since we won s European trophy?
Arsene is going to see out his contract whether your jumping with excitement over it or think it's a mistake, it is what it is let's just enjoy what we can and accept what we can't enjoy because it ain't changing anytime soon :-)

09 Jul 2017 17:29:54
Sharpey wenger ran down his contract to get what he wanted.

09 Jul 2017 19:23:07
Steve - last time I looked a player has an acquisition cost. That's a big difference and if you remove that by running down a contract then you move that to wage negotiations.
A manager cannot do that and I am sure Wenger didn't get a 300% wage increase like Sanchez is after.

09 Jul 2017 19:28:12
Maybe Sanchez is doing the same maybe he wants more money not a move away.

09 Jul 2017 20:03:42
To replace Sanchez = 100m

Replacement wages if cost 100m = 350k per week

So 5 year contract = 100m plus 350k *52 * 5 years

Get that number and divide by 5 years then 52 weeks = what their agent will think we should pay in weekly wage as that's his replacement cost without the same risk.

Does 400k seem so crazy?

10 Jul 2017 00:42:52
Sy 400,000 is crazy, its all crazy. Debauchery on 80,000 is even crazier.







 

 

 
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