09 Apr 2017 06:39:33
World class players want world class players around them and they want success - forth place isn't going to cut it nor is signing a nobody to play upfront. Ozil references the depth of Munich's side throughout the team and how they are far stronger
If we want to compete and sing about our stars then we need to buy and retain them not rely on making them any more
Both Ozil and Sanchez love our club but want medals - what do you want BOARD??
'As a player you're never satisfied. As a player you want more - you want to win the League. I'd like to win the Champions League too, because it's the biggest thing in club football.
'This club is big, they have potential to achieve a lot and I hope that works better in the future.'
Listen to our stars and let's sort the manager situation, our ambition and let's start winning again!
09 Apr 2017 10:47:08
I agree SY unless we show ambition to be all we can be why would anyone with decent options come or stay with us.
On the board
They have done absolutely everything they can to make it possible for Arsene Wenger to be successful at Arsenal, they have gone along with every single thing he has wanted to do, if Arsene has wanted to buy a player they have backed him 100% if Arsene decides a player is to expensive they accept his decision if Arsene wants to retain players like Artetta Rosicky last season and Mertesacker next season for no obvious reason then they don't question him it's been all about Arsene from top to bottom for a decade at Arsenal.
People blame the board for Arsene's​ bad decisions poor judgement tactics and failure to build and motivate a team worthy one single title challenge in well over a decade, if people blame the board for Arsene's mistakes now imagine if they'd ever said no to something Arsene had asked them for? Which in Arsene's own words on many occasions they have never denied him anything he's asked for.
If the board sacked Arsene the fans would be angry with them but they haven't sacked him they've backed him 100% with all he's asked for and people still blame the board? They just can't win whatever they do.
Sorry but the board are the latest in a very very long list of excuses to cover up Arsene's mistakes because people just don't want Arsene to be wrong no matter that he has made 100% of all the decisions​ regarding the club for a decade.
The only place can see the board are wrong so far is to give Arsene way to much power for way to long without making him accountable and that has been very very bad for Arsenal football club i agree.
There shouldn't be any uncertainty surrounding our manager situation at all it should have been decided by the board long ago but they don't want to upset the fans :-)
09 Apr 2017 17:17:23
Agree gunner, if wenger wasn't happy with his lot then i'm sure he won't be signing a new contract. As rg keeps telling us he could go to psg and spend all their millions for them. Have people forgot the 100 mill + he wasted last summer, maybe its the board who aren't happy with the average players he bought and the star players he refused.
09 Apr 2017 17:41:36
Hi Steve, I'm yet to read one post that explains how the board have prevented Arsene from making us competitive, people just blame the board instead of Arsene for some reason.
I will accept the board are as much to blame as Arsene for letting things get so bad but I'm still waiting for some to make me understand how they can possibly be to blame instead of Arsene, how is that possible?
09 Apr 2017 22:54:54
62 mate,
A simple question, if you owned Arsenal how would you ensure Wenger was being competitive.
I'm certain what ever your answer is will be exactly why the board/ owner are responsible for where we sit right now.
THEY are employing Wenger, they are happy with exactly how this club is being run and what it is not achieving, they are happy to have let RVP leave to win the title for United and they will be happy to watch Sanchez and Ozil leave.
They have no inspiration or drive to win titles, they do not develop new partnerships with world wide businesses selling the Arsenal brand as United do bringing in large sums of money.
They set the simplest of targets that continue to see us under achieve.
Would you have sat back for the last 4 years and seen our points total dwindle Year on Year if you were the owner.
Yes Wenger is responsible for everything to do with the team but if you, the owner, allow that then the buck stops with you.
Abramovich does not stand for nor accept any of that and despite countless managers continues to win trophies. I think at least 13 trophies since Wenger last won the title.
Is that because of or despite Abramovich mate?
10 Apr 2017 01:45:27
Stoner but if that is the case and I believe it is why is wenger not leaving, because he buys into it as well. If he wasn't happy with the owner, why would he stop. If he wants to win the big trophies still, why is wenger still here. They are all as bad as one another. It goes back to what we have been saying, they are all nice and comfy in the situation. I still say 100 mil was wasted last summer though.
10 Apr 2017 07:55:26
Spot on Stoner - one difference is CFC have spent more on firing managers than we did last season when wewasted" 100m. Sure Mustafi is pretty good and jury is out on Granit ( give you that ) and not sure about Perez as he has gone awol. When you hunt in the lesser shops - sometimes you get a great buy and sometimes you don't. If you always buy at HUGO Boss you reduce your risks. When you think about it Sanchez was a steal!
Back on point - Wenger is employees by the board, why would he leave Steve? Would you at that salary, responsibility. Wenger came out and said he has no real targets / goals set - surely the board must do better than that. We reward top 4 with a bonus, sounds like other get a pay decrease if they don't make top 4. Very subtle difference but also huge in terms of mentality.
In terms of - sign who you like? Complete BS, look at the balance sheet and limited funds. Have we invested best - may be not but do we have CFC, MCFC or Utd cash -> nope.
The board have a manager that does everything they want except this year. Money has ruined football - champions league should be for champions not 4th place losers. It's worth 50m plus impacts sponsorship deals - its big big money and businesses are about ROI and shareholder wealth. Share price was 400 when AW took over and look at it now!
CFC owner bought them so he could win and win at any cost. Our owners run it as a super business.
10 Apr 2017 08:18:45
Hi Stoner mate, i think everyone knows if i was the owner it would have stopped being about what i could do to make Arsenal competitive under Arsene in 2013 because i would have realised he just isn't capable of doing that any longer simply because​ of his loyalty to players who aren't up to the job plus refusal to adapt his tactics methods and principals​ in the transfer market, for me it would have long since stopped being about Arsene but 100% about Arsenal.
But that still doesn't answer the question of what have the board done or not done to prevent Arsene making us competitive?
The answer is absolutely nothing because they have done and look set to continue to do absolutely everything Arsene asks of them in order to back him 100% in everything​ he feels is right.
My point is mate how can the pro Arsene fans blame the board not Arsene? It's absolutely ridiculous and no one can offer a reason why it's the boards fault and not Arsene's​ because there is no way it can be when they nothing but back him 100% in all he does and wants.
Arsene wouldn't still be manager under Ambramovich we both know that but that is not what the majority of Arsenal fans want so the board gives in to appease the fans who then blame the board for all Arsene's mistakes :-) it's ridiculous because they are probably the only board in the world that would give the pro Arsene fans what that want more than anything, Arsene a new contract.
I think the Arsene out fans have every reason to be upset with the board but the Arsene in fans? How can they be anything but 100% supportive of the people who give them all they ask for? It's like writing your own pay cheque then complaining about your wages, it makes no sense at all mate.
10 Apr 2017 08:58:41
SY mate so should the board let Arsene go?
If so they are 100% responsible for us not being competitive i agree.
If not what could they have done or can they do to make the future any different to the past under Arsene?
He won't accept interference or anyone he doesn't chose himself to work with him simply because he wants yes men who follow orders not offer opinions or question him, Steve Bould fits in but Henry and Vieira certainly wouldn't because they have good jobs already and are strong characters.
The board have been blamed for not making money available in the past but have gone to great lengths to ensure it is and it turns out it was and still is Arsene who doesn't want to spend it, what can they do, spend it for him? Like he'd have that.
Arsene is the problem and the board are responsible for not making the right decisions​ for Arsenal in order to try and please the fans who use the board as Arsenes latest scapegoat after a very long list of scapegoats that one by one have ran out of credibility over the years.
We can't go forward with a manager who just wants to stick to his own plan that is and continues to take us backwards, will we make last seasons 71 points total this season? I don't think we will personally.
10 Apr 2017 11:57:48
I agree with sy if the board resign wenger, they have no ambition.
10 Apr 2017 19:03:56
Steve, 62
I just want the board to show their ambitions match those of the fans.
If that's Wenger, Wenger with new set up, upgrade on Wenger -I don't really care. I would rather Wenger and show him respect but most of all I want the board to show the fans respect by their actions and demands of the manager.
You know I am pro-Wenger as admire the guy for what he's done past, present and future but I am more pro-Arsenal and always want what's best for my team.
At present I blame the board based on Stoners comments. I have already agreed with some of your points on wasted cash but not that funds are unlimited as they are at CFC and MCFC.
I hate being told I have blinkers in .
I do believe that unless the board changes - Wenger is the best option. If it changes, I would like ( respect ) that Wenger gets a shot at it as he deserves it. After that - game on.