22 Nov 2016 12:55:14
Bayern, Real and Juventus all look like they are going to finish second in their groups behind Dortmund, Athletico and Sevilla. maybe finishing second in group wouldn't be such a bad thing.
22 Nov 2016 13:55:02
It's ironic, that we could finish top and yet still have to play one of Europe's big boys in the next round.
22 Nov 2016 16:56:55
They don't perennially finish second and when they do they generally progress further. There are bigger boys than them going to win their respective league. This is the big league competition, with big teams.
22 Nov 2016 17:23:37
Without checking I think the last time we finished too we got a nightmare draw.
22 Nov 2016 17:40:15
Just seen tables and they are all still tight.
22 Nov 2016 18:09:51
Not that it matters psv want it.
22 Nov 2016 22:17:42
Sorry english, wasn't it.
22 Nov 2016 22:57:34
Steve, I would place Bayern, Real and Juventus as big boys to be fair especially the first two.
23 Nov 2016 02:25:39
Yes it didn't quite equate to what i meant, but bayern a nd real are not in a weaker position or perception if they finish first or second, if they finished second they wouldn't spend 10 years not progressing.