18 Oct 2016 00:21:30
Who do you guys see becoming the next generation of A-list club managers once the current crop retire?
Poch is an obvious choice I could see I'm trying madrid one day, I'm sure Eddie howe and Ron Koeman would probably get a mention too.
What obscure/ under recognised managers do you guys see (if any) in top jobs in the future?
I'd be interested to hear some eds opinions on this too if possible?
{Ed001's Note - why Eddie Howe? I don't get the hype about him at all. He is another Roberto Martinez, pass, pass, pass, for passing's sake, far too much for my liking. The odd good result does not cover up the fact that he has spent large sums to produce a very mediocre team who play boring football. Nice guy like, which is why the media fawn over him like they did Martinez.}
18 Oct 2016 08:19:36
Someone I rate is Paul Lambert I know since leaving Norwich he hasn't exactly pulled up any trees at Villa or Blackburn but I think at the right club he could have his most successful managerial days still ahead of him.
18 Oct 2016 08:40:18
Simone zidane Southampton manager is also doing well.
{Ed001's Note - Zidane? Another one who has done nothing yet. I fail to understand the hype about him. There is a lot of stuff bubbling under the surface there ready to crash and burn soon.}
18 Oct 2016 09:46:21
I agree with Eddie howe comment tbf ed. Just through his name in as it comes I totally his conversation often.
Zidane I do think rate as a manager personally. I think k his stature probably keeps the madrid dressing room under control but that's about it.
I thought remy garde would come good, apparently not.
{Ed001's Note - the Madrid dressing room is not under control, he couldn't keep the B team dressing room under control either.}
18 Oct 2016 10:19:02
Some managers are good as long as they have lots of money to spend some are useless with lots of money but great on a tight budget, horses for courses.
Neil Warnock is brilliant at getting teams promoted but not so good in the premier league once thier, Benitez is a very good tactition in big games but over a season struggles not to tinker plus spends like money is going out of fashion.
Mourinho at Norwich I think would struggle as would Alex Neil at Utd and Gardiola taking over at somewhere like Southampton and not only keeping them up but improving them dispite selling all their best players like Keoman did is hard to imagine.
Some managers are made for big clubs while others are at their best with smaller clubs and some managers who struggle in domestic league's excell at international level.
18 Oct 2016 10:31:39
Sam Allardyce?
Oh wait ðŸ˜.
18 Oct 2016 15:23:25
I thought Montanier could come good but he's not doing great over here in Nottingham.
I don't understand how some managers get hype and what it's based on - for example Maclaren has had an adventurous luxurious career ranging from managing abroad to managing the National team (plus he's still getting offers) yet the only place he's done well is Middlesborough and he's done embarassingly bad at some places (once again, here in Nottingham for example) - another less than average Megson/ Coyle/ Jewel for me.
G62, were you joking with the Lambert comment?
For me, Howe isn't as bad as Ed makes out, he's not that good and has had loads of finances compared to the other teams in his league - except when they come to the PL ofcourse. They're football can be boring, except for last weekends 6-1 demolition of Hull, but he's still got the results to gain promotion time and time again. Some managers *cough* LVG *cough* can't even get the results despite ridiculous finances and that can't be overlooked. HE is a nice guy and the media lap that up, he's definitely overrated but far from dog sh*te in my opinion.
18 Oct 2016 16:14:17
Strangely enough Perfect I'm not joking mate, I bet villa fans would rather he'd stayed if they could rewind time.
He had a tough time there but the club wasn't in the best shape when he arrived and it's certainly gone down hill since he left mate, it's easy to predict big things for Koeman because his career is on a high but 3 years ago who would have taken him above Southampton?
18 Oct 2016 19:00:22
Yeah fair point about Koeman but all in all even if you don't think Lambert's done that bad as a manager, he's hardly done enough to be considered 'up there' for me.
18 Oct 2016 20:33:43
Hi Perfect mate, the question was what obscure under recognised managers do you think will become A list managers in the future mate,
Personally I think Lambert has more to give than we saw at Via or Blackburn and with the right club could rebuild his reputation he was building quite nicely at Norwich, he chose badly with Villa but I think he has what it takes to come back again.
Just my view mate as I don't see that many up and coming I think stand out from the crowds, Eddie Howe would be a super big gamble for any of the big 7 premier league clubs to take unless he went from Bournemouth to another premier league club and stood out while Poch is already with one of the big 7.
19 Oct 2016 12:43:01
Shaun Dyche each club he has been at he has updated the training facilities and structure and done a great job.
19 Oct 2016 15:54:21
True enough G62, that is the question, my mistake. I agree with your bit about there not being many obvious up and coming English managers for sure.
I though Monk looked good at Swansea, Warburton looked good at Brentford and Lennon looked good at Celtic but it just proves that anything can happen and so I suppose Lambert could yet prove me wrong :)
19 Oct 2016 17:08:42
And he could equally make me look silly if he bombs at his next club to mate :-)
Sometimes we all call them right and other times we just hope no one remembers what we predicted in the first place :-)